Brown什么时候下台啊！ 上高速还收钱？

Auckland Mayor Len Brown has released a plan this morning for a $2 toll to enter the city's motorways.

The toll, which may vary by time of day and be free at nights, is one of two options to plug a $12 billion transport funding gap.

The second option is a rates rise of about 1 per cent a year on top of ordinary increases and an annual fuel tax of about 1.2 cents per litre.

Mr Brown said the options mark a critical step in the most important funding debate Auckland has ever had.

"Aucklanders tell me every day we need to fix this city's transport problems and I know a basic network isn't good enough for them, so let's debate, discuss and decide if and how much we are prepared to pay to finally fix Auckland's transport problems," Mr Brown said.

Two reports were released today by an independent alternative funding group with the two options.



Group chairman Stewart Milne said Aucklanders had said something must be done about the transport system and to get on with fixing it.

The council will consult Aucklanders from January on the two options for a decision to be made in a new 10-year budget next year.

The Government will have to approve fuel taxes and tolling of existing state highways.
Previous transport ministers have rejected these options.

There are two motorway user charge options:

The first is a flat rate of $2 from 6am to 7pm on weekdays and $1 from 6am-7pm at weekends. Nights are free.

The second option has variable weekday charges from $1.30 (10am-3pm), $2 on the shoulder and $2.80 at the morning (7am-9am) and evening (4pm-6pm) peaks. A $1.30 charge would apply at weekends from 6am-7pm. Nights are free.

There is no cap on the tolls.

If there was, the charges would have to increase.

- NZ Herald


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/new ... p;objectid=11349967

楼主

不管了，先来一发。

NewLynnHse

这种新闻显示那些能走其他路进城的区还是比较好的，出入非要走高速的就悲剧了。可是这些区通常是富人区，所以无所谓。

lychee

真不要脸吖 ……╮(╯▽╰)╭

CWF895

北岸中区当初投票给他的自动面壁去吧

大师致富

他下不下台该收一样收。

CWF895

大师致富 发表于 2014-10-29 11:57
他下不下台该收一样收。

别的市长不一定会像他这样大搞建设大折腾。我就奇了怪，那个什么狗屁环状铁路花那么多钱有个球用处？

NewLynnHse

CWF895 发表于 2014-10-29 12:03
别的市长不一定会像他这样大搞建设大折腾。我就奇了怪，那个什么狗屁环状铁路花那么多钱有个球用处？

这个好像很多人支持啊

楼主

CWF895 发表于 2014-10-29 11:57
北岸中区当初投票给他的自动面壁去吧

我真的没有！

CWF895

NewLynnHse 发表于 2014-10-29 12:04
这个好像很多人支持啊

这个好像没很多人支持啊

CWF895

楼主 发表于 2014-10-29 12:04
我真的没有！

我也没有

NewLynnHse

CWF895 发表于 2014-10-29 12:08
这个好像没很多人支持啊

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_Rail_Link

Public opinion[edit]
A public opinion poll published on 27 June 2012 found 63% of Aucklanders surveyed are in favour of the tunnel, 29% were against it and 8% don't care. The poll was conducted by Research New Zealand.[41]　Another poll in November showed similar support amongst Aucklanders at 64%.[8] Only 14% overall opposed the building of the rail link; 18% are neutral. Support was lowest in those areas not served directly by rail. The same number of those who support it want it built as soon as possible, while 22% of supporters want it built by 2020. Over 50% of respondents wanted the central Government to contribute significantly to the cost of the project, with 30% of respondents overall supporting road tolling to pay for the project. One quarter of respondents overall supported "targeted rates".[42]

mumu1211

住中区不用掏钱，哇咔咔

Venox10111

NewLynnHse 发表于 2014-10-29 11:54
这种新闻显示那些能走其他路进城的区还是比较好的，出入非要走高速的就悲剧了。可是这些区通常是富人区，所 ...

能走其他路进城的区 including, Parnell, Remuera, Mt Eden, Epsom, Greenlane, One Tree Hill, Mission Bay....

CWF895

NewLynnHse 发表于 2014-10-29 12:10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_Rail_Link

Public opinion[edit]

貌似应该60%+的AKL居民都根本不需要这个铁路才是，只有那20-30%的CBD周围的人才有用吧。鬼知道这个民调是不是只调查了CBD周围的居民

NewLynnHse

CWF895 发表于 2014-10-29 12:18
貌似应该60%+的AKL居民都根本不需要这个铁路才是，只有那20-30%的CBD周围的人才有用吧。鬼知道这个民调是 ...

可以positive一点吗？我一直记得这个计划是多数人支持的。不过对我来说是无所谓

CWF895

NewLynnHse 发表于 2014-10-29 12:21
可以positive一点吗？我一直记得这个计划是多数人支持的。不过对我来说是无所谓

让谁掏大把的地税去做一个根本几辈子都用不到的项目，谁能positive起来呢？ 这林逼自打上台后我家的地税没一年不是两位数的增长，让我还对他positive? 您老这是明显的饱汉子不知饿汉子机啊

西瓜情人

len brown就是中国风格的官僚，喜欢假大空，大兴土木根本不符合NZ国情。

bintoo

原来这里也有政绩工程

会员

我就算投进垃圾桶，也绝不会投票给他。
在一些商业场合和他接触过几次，很明显能看出来这人太虚伪。
说难听点，心术不正。可是人家有靠山撑他，所以一个人搞出让政府蒙羞的丑闻，都还照样能厚着脸皮坐在那个位置捞油水。这在世界上也算前无古人了。。。

Teri

Mr Brown 吗？
真心觉得他没有对奥克兰做过什么特别的好东西。。
不是说所有游泳池会免费给奥克兰的rate payer 吗？？ 现在都需要收费了。。他不应该胡乱开空头支票吧。。

他根本不了解有什么办法可以改善奥克兰的交通
而且 他第一个 削减的 是 奥克兰交通计划的预算。。 没有公共交通网络的好建设， 你有怎么可以说服民众用公交了。

definitely THUMBS DOWN！！！

Jackpot

yoursqueenb

可不可以公投否决掉这个 不让上路怎么去上班？！

yoursqueenb

CWF895 发表于 2014-10-29 12:18
貌似应该60%+的AKL居民都根本不需要这个铁路才是，只有那20-30%的CBD周围的人才有用吧。鬼知道这个民调是 ...

肯定是的 政府出的调查都是有导向的

yoursqueenb 发表于 2014-10-29 19:15
可不可以公投否决掉这个 不让上路怎么去上班？！

这个难道不让公投吗？这里不是民主吗？难道他这个色狼市长一个人说了算吗？

onlyme618

我们付钱给他去高薪搞婚外情？什么世道啊

“奥克兰市长Len Brown周三公布最新的交通方案，其中一个选项就是对现有高速公路收取每次2纽币的过路费”。应该理解为只要上高速就会被收费，没说光收北岸大桥啊，新闻标题是误导了吧？？

CWF895

匿名者 发表于 2014-10-29 19:25
这个难道不让公投吗？这里不是民主吗？难道他这个色狼市长一个人说了算吗？

他就是选上去的啊

我说的是公路收费的事情，难道不让公投，他市长一个人说了算吗？如果是这样，那和国内有什么区别呢?

NewLynnHse

匿名者 发表于 2014-10-29 20:08
我说的是公路收费的事情，难道不让公投，他市长一个人说了算吗？如果是这样，那和国内有什么区别呢?

有的啦，新西兰是民主国家

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/new ... p;objectid=11349967
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The council will consult Aucklanders from January on the two options for a decision to be made in a new 10-year budget next year.
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只是不管结果怎样，荷包破洞是难免的了。