同一个牙医，不同的待遇

周六那天，在男朋友家吃饭，男朋友的爸爸觉得牙痛，想找个牙医看看。我就想起了前一阵子论坛里那位很火的牙医。于是开始翻帖子，找出了联系方式。因为上面有电话，所以男朋友直接发了信息过去，因为时间也不早了，所以就没打电话，只是发了信息。但是也是觉得时间太晚了，打扰人家不好意思，所以对方没回信息也是很能理解的。
后来同那位医生定了周三下午三点半在北岸看牙。结果周三下午，男友爸爸准时到了诊所，但是医生却迟到了20分钟。后来医生来了，看了一眼，就说三颗牙齿拔了吧。于是三颗牙齿就拔了，还订了下次的预约去洗牙。据男朋友爸爸说，从他躺下到医生离开，一共十五分钟。
我就觉得有点不可思议，从各位网友的推荐来看，那个医生是个十足的好医生，医术好，够耐心。再加上男朋友爸爸不会英文，所以理所当然去找那位牙医。
我牙齿也不好，从国内到国外，一直也没少见牙医，虽然在专业方面我不懂，但是我至少知道，如果可能的话，要尽量保住患者的牙齿，就算要拔最少得问个清楚或者拍个x光片吧？再简单的举个例子，如果能保住自己的手脚，哪怕活动不太方便，谁愿意截肢呢？
我自己本身的工作也是跟医生患者打交道，每次带我的患者去看牙医，就算是每年的例行检查，医生也会给拍个X光，看看清楚啊。我基本没三个月就会带五个患者去看牙医，做检查，最短的一次，看诊时间也是20分钟，何况这次男朋友爸爸还是拔了三颗牙。
作为牙医，把牙齿拔掉了，那下一步的治疗建议呢？就完了？就算是截肢也得问问假肢要什么价位的吧？
可能真的那牙医不错，对所有人都不错，但是我们真的运气不好，经历的事情跟别人说的完全不同……
就这一个ID，为了不被人肉，果断匿了。

NewLynnHse

人怕出名啊

NewLynnHse 发表于 2013-5-2 12:54
人怕出名啊

你真是快啊~~

LOST_NZ

出名了，看得人多了，自然就忙了。

无过

也许是不是老人牙齿已经完全松掉了，所以直接拔了

NGU15

lysh7717

找上门看牙的人太多了，忙不过来了呀！

LOST_NZ 发表于 2013-5-2 12:57
出名了，看得人多了，自然就忙了。

倒是不介意他忙，但是作为医生的底线应该是为患者负责吧？

无过 发表于 2013-5-2 12:59
也许是不是老人牙齿已经完全松掉了，所以直接拔了

我觉得应该跟患者解释一下牙齿拔掉的原因吧？

Anonymous

再打个电话问问原因吧。

哈城客居

哎，有效率也不好，没效率也不好，非得各种拍片各种耽误才叫好医生，医生不好当啊。。。

lysh7717 发表于 2013-5-2 13:01
找上门看牙的人太多了，忙不过来了呀！

如果没时间，可以不接这个BOOKING啊？既然接了，就要负责

哈城客居 发表于 2013-5-2 13:06
哎，有效率也不好，没效率也不好，非得各种拍片各种耽误才叫好医生，医生不好当啊。。。

最起码应该跟患者解释一下吧，总不能去了医院就任人摆布吧？只要牙疼就拔牙？那牙医也太好当了。好歹牙医在这边也算是专科医生，收费是不同于GP的。

wenching269

躺下到医生离开，一共十五分钟，三颗牙齿就被拔了，又沒拍个x光片，那个医生太神速了。

jj66514529

是不是jacky 啊。。。。

L-360

那个好牙医就好在他将国粤语随便乱开价吧。态度那里都一样的。

北岸南岸

估计那天正好这个牙医不爽。。。

jackylam

Hi all,  I don't want to disclose your father condition in here,  but i told him already, all those teeth can't be saved because of Gum Disease and all loose already...... There are no options at all but extractions only,  in fact I have arranged next appointment for a full examinations and also cleaning....

Normal extraction is around 200-250,  due to 3 teeths need extractions, and also perido condition,  I think......... from memory.......  around 130 each tooth...... I already given your dad a good discount.  

Why don't take x rays?  If you go to those black dentist, you will be charged for x rays, for one x rays is 35 dollars each ( for us anyway, not sure how much other charge),  then u need to pay extra one hundred dollars for something i knew its a waste of money.... cos those teeth can't be saved at all..........   Therefore, I just did a good thing for ur dad...... save him those x rays money...... I could have done it for making profit, but i didn't.... cos i am good and i tried to look after all my patients... especially chinese patients.....

I thought i was doing good.... but maybe you thought i am bad......... I m sorry if i made u feel that way...... but there isn't much we can do with his teeth due to his gum condition and extracting a firm upright wisdom tooth only take me like 3 mins......  an impacted one only like 15 mins......  so 3 perio loose teeth, doesn't take me much time to do so....... I don't act ...... just do my best and try to get patient out of the chair asap cos no one enjoy sitting in dentist chair unnecessariliy..... so i just do my work, rebook him back for taking care of his perio problem for other teeth,  was trying to save him from paying unnecessary x rays, which other dentists always did.....

Hope you and eveyonelse understand........

But I am sorry if i upset u or ur dad in any way.......  I just finished work at remuera and rush to albany for afternoon session and running late..... I apologise for my delay..... sorry.....

jackylam

无过 发表于 2013-5-2 12:59
也许是不是老人牙齿已经完全松掉了，所以直接拔了

that was the reason

jackylam

匿名者 发表于 2013-5-2 13:03
倒是不介意他忙，但是作为医生的底线应该是为患者负责吧？

I told ur dad, it was very loose,  and he is in pain,  best options (or i should say.... No options) was to extract the teeth,  I explained to him already..........

jackylam

哈城客居 发表于 2013-5-2 13:06
哎，有效率也不好，没效率也不好，非得各种拍片各种耽误才叫好医生，医生不好当啊。。。

if i know the tooth is perio and super loose, i won't waste patient 35 dollars to take x rays.......  Just try to be good..... but now got bad comments.....

mengmum

哈城客居 发表于 2013-5-2 13:06
哎，有效率也不好，没效率也不好，非得各种拍片各种耽误才叫好医生，医生不好当啊。。。

蓝山小野猫商铺

留名。。。

围观。。。

ＬＺ会不会有啥误会阿？？？

我看牙医写的也挺真情实感的哇。。。

飘飘摇摇

哪个牙医？？、？？？

jackylam

匿名者 发表于 2013-5-2 13:06
如果没时间，可以不接这个BOOKING啊？既然接了，就要负责

I told him already.........  and he agrees...... then we started....... Sorry if you feel I didn't do my job well, but i told him..... it can't be saved...... at all...... so have to be extracted....... I asked him if u just want one or other done..... he said if need to be done, lets get them all done..... thats why i took them out.....

jackylam

匿名者 发表于 2013-5-2 13:08
最起码应该跟患者解释一下吧，总不能去了医院就任人摆布吧？只要牙疼就拔牙？那牙医也太好当了。好歹牙医 ...

I did tell ur dad it can't be saved....................... {:8_480:}

If you are a patient, someone say take 3 teeth out for u,  will u let him?  OF cos not!  even i m dentist, do u think i can just take 3 teeth out by forcing him?   I did explain to ur dad.... and he was in pain,  and he understand too, cos he didn't go to dentist often and have bad gum disease...... so he knows.... and he expected........ he agreed,  then we took the teeth out........ there isn't any  任人摆布...... but why can't u understand?   To be honest...... I can only try to save your dad's teeth as much as i can do with my ability.... He is probably looking to lose few more teeth in the next 12 - 24 months time due to his gum problem...... Then don't blame me in the future if any further teeth need to come out, becos his condition is very bad........ 3 is hopeless,  and we are trying to save the rest if we can...........  ai......... but at least i clarify now........

jackylam

wenching269 发表于 2013-5-2 13:37
躺下到医生离开，一共十五分钟，三颗牙齿就被拔了，又沒拍个x光片，那个医生太神速了。

the teeth were very loose....................  maybe u can take them out with ur fingers.......... so how long do u want me to act............ like 30 mins?     just to pretend it was hard and charge him 250 per tooth?  

ai.......

jackylam

jj66514529 发表于 2013-5-2 13:52
是不是jacky 啊。。。。

yes, its me....... sorry..... i feel bad too....

mengmum

jackylam 发表于 2013-5-2 19:05
I told him already.........  and he agrees...... then we started....... Sorry if you feel I didn't ...

that is ok, when u be a doctor, u have to face a kind of people, sometimes get misunderstand, that is normal, do not need worry to much. i understand that. be happy, do a good job is the main thing.

哈城客居

jackylam 发表于 2013-5-2 19:10
I did tell ur dad it can't be saved.......................

If you are a patient, some ...

我相信你，有些没救了的牙齿应该是有经验的医生一眼就能看出来的，有些病人拔了之后又后悔就埋怨医生没有尽力保，其实拍片等等折腾下来最后还是拔，花了那些钱仿佛就心安一般。这就是国内为什么有这个风气，病人一到医院不管什么病就先各种拍片b超CT各种化验做一遍，省得病人埋怨医生不尽心。