非常感谢各位对FMIC的解答，，，借贴问下 关于HKS的EVC-S ？

andyqiaoyu

非常非常感谢各位的解答

让小弟对FMIC了解到了更多的知识，，，，，，，

还是决定继续沿用TMIC

有时间拉条导风管给进气（仿效后鱼你的 哈哈），，再看看做个water spray给IC试试，，，

PS 有朋友有用过hks新出的EVC-S吗？

效果怎样？跟EVC5或其他厂家出的EBC比的话 有什么差距，，，，，

再次感谢ing，，，，

sevenie

版鱼我车子拿回来了东西还在有时间过来拿就好了

向后看的鱼

mate I thought it's off your car already! lol

aight no worries mate, will do some research first

lovernanako

250 bro! take way and try??.....
ummm.. how am i gonna drive my car then?
lol, u do some homework first and make sure

向后看的鱼

haha, sure mate, always interested. Just not sure if it will fit ... are you happy for me to have a go and either return or payment afterwards? :) how much are you after for it anyway?

lovernanako

still interested in my sti tmic??
haha

向后看的鱼

你的Intake是原厂的cold airbox还是pod啊？我怎么记得你换了一个simota?

要不要做个Cold air box？要的话什么时候上来AKL我们一起做。。。我也要做一个，哈哈

向后看的鱼

我的STi TMIC啊.~~~~ｎｏｏｏｏｏｏｏｏ～～～～～

andyqiaoyu

哇，，，，，，，，，，，，，，，，下班回来一看这么多回复

忠心的感谢各位这两天花时间在小弟的疑问上

大致上我想我也有决定了，，多谢各位让我从FMIC上了解到更多的知识，，

再次感谢 哈哈，，，，

sevenie

嘿嘿还是觉得好看而已哈哈

向后看的鱼

这么responsive?.... 下次找你带我遛一圈..

lovernanako

not bad for a FMIC sti
but alot worse than my v9 right now

向后看的鱼

peak power dosnt mean anything
example. a car has 200kw all the way from 4000rpm to 6500
and another car has 210kw due to the massive intercooler, but power happens only at 6000rpm-6500rpm

which  ...
lovernanako 发表于 2009-11-4 12:17

But your tuned STi v7 wasn't too bad aye? With that large FMIC you still had pretty good response?

向后看的鱼

peak power dosnt mean anything
example. a car has 200kw all the way from 4000rpm to 6500
and another car has 210kw due to the massive intercooler, but power happens only at 6000rpm-6500rpm

which  ...
lovernanako 发表于 2009-11-4 12:17

that's why M3 is so damn quick .. =D

向后看的鱼

CAI是COLD AIR INTAKE..请问2.75"算粗吗??

请教高人:如果一个地方夏天低于60度,是不是没有必要用FMIC了? 相比water/methanol injection更加有效率??
cibi 发表于 2009-11-4 00:21

2.75不算粗....

Top mount最大的缺点之一就是heat soak,在city或者low speed下没有足够的空气来冷却IC... 相比之下FMIC就会好很多..但如果你后water spary kit应该会帮助heat soak的问题

向后看的鱼

呵呵 做了FMIC后 那个scoop可以很多用途啊

给engine bay降温，，给热空气上升有个出口，，，也可以放个oil cooler在那里 哈哈，，

对了

请教下 哥们你说的CAI是指的什么啊？
andyqiaoyu 发表于 2009-11-3 22:27

CAI = cold air intake

cibi

peak power dosnt mean anything
example. a car has 200kw all the way from 4000rpm to 6500
and another car has 210kw due to the massive intercooler, but power happens only at 6000rpm-6500rpm

which  ...
lovernanako 发表于 2009-11-4 12:17

顶...................

lovernanako

peak power dosnt mean anything
example. a car has 200kw all the way from 4000rpm to 6500
and another car has 210kw due to the massive intercooler, but power happens only at 6000rpm-6500rpm

which one is faster? ofcourse the 200kw one
atleast the power stays for longer.

i use to think bigger is better, so i got a 3.5 inch strait pipe exhaust
yes i get extra 5-10 kw on the high rev, but i lose all the low down torque
and it also makes the car run like a snail on puke`s corner exits.

so now i get it, smooth power curve, and easier driving means everything.
sometimes a slightly modded car with a good tune is faster than big powered
ass kicking turbo cars. they are just too hard and scary to drive.

so stay away from front mounts!! thats what every subie guy say.
top mounts are 100X better, just abit ugly, thats all

lovernanako

ding sky9
get a larger top mount!
and get water injection kit

sky9

when you look at the piping....HOW CLOSE from the turbo to the factory top mount i/c
and how close from the top mount i/c to the throttle body.... you will understand.. WHY Subaru is more responsive than EVO 7 8 9..

a fmic looks good, and unless you got a big turbo to sit on.
if you wants cooler air, try venting more air into the cooler, OR
get a THICKER Top mount man ~!

可乐瓶盖

支持一下说话头头是道的pro Nick
顺便问问 我那套frontmount你要不

lovernanako

trademe intercoolers are good enough
but remember to wrap or paint the piping with heat resistant stuff.
front mount gives u lots of  turbo lag, but it makes the intake air very cool and gives u lots of peak power.
larger top mount does give HP and cooling power too. much lesser lag, and installation is under 1 hour

for a front mount u need to cut stuff. eg ur bumper. removing water reservoir and u need smaller battery.

cibi

CAI是COLD AIR INTAKE..请问2.75"算粗吗??

请教高人:如果一个地方夏天低于60度,是不是没有必要用FMIC了? 相比water/methanol injection更加有效率??

小妖

fm最大最大的好处就是       好看!!!

andyqiaoyu

见洋人做过一台FMIC的8代 解决管子长的方法是反置throttle body 大工程了~
可乐瓶盖 发表于 2009-11-3 21:44

确实

subi弄FMIC那个pipe长是长的来，，，，，，

andyqiaoyu

TOP MOUNT IC可是说是subaru的特点，不然那个鼻子用来干什么呢？还是保持原厂比较好看，个人意见，我在Trademe上看过有一套FMIC kit，600多好像，不过你的CAI也要改，不然没有孔装IC的pipe。
2QL4SKL 发表于 2009-11-3 21:39

呵呵 做了FMIC后 那个scoop可以很多用途啊

给engine bay降温，，给热空气上升有个出口，，，也可以放个oil cooler在那里 哈哈，，

对了

请教下 哥们你说的CAI是指的什么啊？

andyqiaoyu

我用过front mount 后发现管子要短而且不要太粗， 管子不要太薄因为引擎的热气会把管子里的冷空气加热， 有些很漂亮很bling的管子其实很薄很不隔热， intercooler的越大管子越粗就要越多的空气气去充满它， 就越多la ...
韵儿 发表于 2009-11-3 21:31

那死了，，，，，，那些aluminium的管子都满薄的哦，，

恩恩 IC肯定不会整得太大 希望可以避免太多的lag

andyqiaoyu

subi换前置中冷最大的问题是中冷管路太长，导致turbo lag变大。直接感觉就是反映变慢。感觉turbo打开的时间比以前来的晚，如果不是改动比较大的车，不建议更换，STI原装的顶置IC已经很不错了。
CornerPower 发表于 2009-11-3 21:26

对的 以前我也是这样觉得，，，

做完FM后 lag肯定会大 就好像后面的哥们说的 爆发力 或者说是top end power，，，

还听一个朋友说 在冷点的晚上 FM会有更大更快的boost in   不知道效果是不是真的了 呵呵，，，

向后看的鱼

我用了那么久，一点问题没有啊。。。

andyqiaoyu

bleed type 没有不好啊。我只是听说EVC的那些step motor和bleed solenoid原理不太一样，具体是怎样工作的我也不知道。。。 如果我是你就FMIC + MBC，然后直接tuning就好了，连BC都省了
向后看的鱼 发表于 2009-11-3 21:25

MBC是满实惠的，，，，，但总有点不大放心的感觉 呵呵