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[工作] 请问上班族的哥哥姐姐(会计师CA or CPA)-Accounting and Finance Fairs(38楼) [复制链接]

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发表于 2010-3-6 23:20:45 |只看该作者 微信分享
这个帖子真好,据对ding

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发表于 2010-3-7 22:00:28 |只看该作者 微信分享
ZT:
百度来的........
CA 是英联邦以及世界最崇高的顶级会计师组织!
在英联邦,他们的注册会计师就是 Chartered Accountnant ,CA就是相当于美国和中国的CPA.就是国家法定审计师,CA是伟大而崇高的职业.英国的CA 是 ...
gazer 发表于 2010-3-2 00:15


那ICAEW 对新西兰CA 的态度呢?是全面肯定么?
我知道,拿到新西兰的CA 回国发展的道路还是窄的又窄。。。

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发表于 2010-3-7 22:17:06 |只看该作者 微信分享
特意进来膜拜一下美女CA 菲菲

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特意进来膜拜一下美女想入 菲菲CA

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至尊荣耀 最强王者 永恒钻石 尊贵铂金 新时政 10周年纪念

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发表于 2010-3-8 22:52:43 |只看该作者 微信分享
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The New Zealand Institute of Chartered Accountants (NZICA) (not including NZICA ACAs or ATs)

If you are a member of one of these bodies and have obtained membership of your parent body by complying with its training and examinations requirements you are invited to apply to become an ICAEW member. You do not have to be resident in the UK to take up this offer of ICAEW membership.  You will not be required to sit the ICAEW aptitude test.
Please note that reciprocal membership of ICAEW requires you to:
  • Maintain membership of your home body
  • Comply with ICAEW CPD obligations and make an annual declaration that you have done so
  • Comply with the ICAEW Code of Ethics

基本上是可以互转的,但是回国的话除了证书之外也要看自己的人脉以及能力了。说到头证书也就是一张纸,它可能可以保证你一年有个7,8万的收入但绝对不是金饭碗,我知道很多人拿到CA之后也就开始安于现状,再后来当初拼证书时的激情就全没了。

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发表于 2010-3-9 09:03:45 |只看该作者 微信分享
Hi xxxxxxxx

My manager (Margaret Dixon) and I feel that it would be great if we could have a meeting to discuss the competitor analysis report.

I am going to be in Auckland for the rest of the week and was wondering if we could catch up at one of the following Accounting & Finance fairs:

Auckland Uni 9/3/2010                 10-4pm
Massey Albany 10/3/2010            12-2pm
AUT 11/3/2010                                  11/30-2pm
Waikato 12/3/2010                          10-2pm

Please send me an email or leave a message on my mobile if you are able to meet.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards
Adam


Adam Hayman
Business Development Executive
New Zealand Institute of Chartered Accountants
National Office, Level 7, Tower Building, 50 Customhouse Quay
PO Box 11342, Wellington 6142, New Zealand

Email:          adam.hayman@nzica.com
DDI:         +64 (4) 474 7845
Mobile:    +64 (0) 21 191 5553
Fax:          +64 (4) 473 6303
Web:            www.nzica.com

Visit our student website at www.nzica.com/flyhigher

 Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

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发表于 2010-3-9 22:47:47 |只看该作者 微信分享
很好的机会,我3月11号会去听听的。

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发表于 2010-3-22 17:12:03 |只看该作者 微信分享
大概三周前,Adam说 accounting fair 结束后可以来我公司 meeting,不过我实在是没时间,所以就email给他问了他几个问题,
比如:NZICA vs. CPA;
海外ATO经验的认可;
Asia 地区成功的 CA例子。

今天他打电话给我跟我解释了一下,后来又email过来补充了一下。

NZICA在HK 已经有了branch,现在正在跟 ICAA(澳洲CA)合作进入亚洲市场。ATO的经验不一定非要在本地积累,海外公司也可以申请成为ATO,比如四大在中国的公司都可以申请,经验也被承认。具体看下面 email 的回复。


Hi xxxx

Hopefully our chat this afternoon covered all your questions.

I forgot to mention that another example of NZICA being a global professional body is that our 2009 CA of the year (Warwick Hunt) is based in Dubai and is the CEO of the Middle East region of PwC.

A recap on NZICA’s key competences:

1.        Professional accounting body of choice in NZ for over 100 years.
2.        Almost all organisations in NZ insist on NZICA membership – not CPA.
3.        NZICA is a member of the GAA (Global Accounting Alliance).
4.        Around a quarter of our 32,000 members are based in 91 different countries where their CA designation is recognised.
5.        On average NZICA members earn twice as much as CPA’s (verification is available on NZICA and CPA websites).
6.        Any organisation in any country can apply to become an ATO. Please refer to the below email for further information on organisations becoming ATO’s.

You also asked about another GAA member, CPA America, which is a totally different organisation from CPA Australia who is not part of the GAA.

Please do not hesitate to contact me with any further queries.

Cheers
Adam


Adam Hayman
Business Development Executive
New Zealand Institute of Chartered Accountants
National Office, Level 7, Tower Building, 50 Customhouse Quay
PO Box 11342, Wellington 6142, New Zealand

Email:          adam.hayman@nzica.com
DDI:         +64 (4) 474 7845
Mobile:    +64 (0) 21 191 5553
Fax:          +64 (4) 473 6303
Web:            www.nzica.com

Visit our student website at www.nzica.com/flyhigher

 Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

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As part of the Institute’s requirement’s Chartered Accountant trainees must complete two years of specified practical experience in an Approved Training Organisation (ATO), under the guidance of an Institute registered mentor, within a period of four years.

Any organisation in any country can apply to become an ATO. In order to be approved an organisation must be able to identify:

-        An ATO Coordinator. Please note trainees may not take responsibility for the application or for managing the ATO programme in an organisation. It is recommended that a employee in a senior position within the organisation who has some knowledge about the organisations  ATO status would act as the ATO Coordinator. An example of a suitable person would be a Human Resources Manager, Finance Manager or a Director of the company.

-        An Institute registered mentor. Members of IFAC affiliated bodies can apply to the Insitute for Registered mentor status based on their membership of an IFAC affiliated body. For details of IFAC affiliated bodies please refer to the following link:

http://web.ifac.org/about/member-bodies


-        At least three areas of accounting (two at a level two  and one at a level three) trainees can undertake training in, as outlined in the Chartered Accountants and Associate Chartered Accountants training log, avaliable on the institutes website, www.nzica.com

Once a student completes  study in New Zealand they can complete there specified practical experience in another country, for example  China. However, it is vital that the student confirms that the organisation they work for e.g PWC is an ATO registered with the Institute priror to  commencing specified practical experience. You should be aware that PAS/PCE2 is currently only offered in New Zealand so the student would need to return to NZ for this. Some students will complete two years of specified practical experience overseas then return to NZ to complete PAS/PCE2 and others will complete one year of specified practical experience and return to NZ throughout the second year to participate in PAS/PCE2.

An ATO’s status is specific to the branches and physical locations outlined in the application If an ATO wishes to include another location or subsidiary, that is different to those indicated in the application, after approval the ATO Co Coordinator would be required to contact the institute requesting the current ATO status is extended to include the additional location(s) or subsidiary (ies).

For information relating to applying for ATO status please refer to the following link on the Institutes website:

http://www.nzica.com/AM/Template ... amp;ContentID=13146

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发表于 2010-3-22 17:13:56 |只看该作者 微信分享
总的来说NZICA的前景比CPA AUS 广阔一些,虽然我们经理说考个CA也就是为了涨张工资罢了,呵呵。

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发表于 2010-3-22 17:34:26 |只看该作者 微信分享
发现一条曲线救国的道路:

2.5年读完 bachelor,
part-time 补第四年的棵,full time 积累general experience
申请provisional member of  AT or ACA,考pce1(现在叫foundation)
回国找熟人进四大,积累一年ATO
回来办ACA full member (http://www.nzica.com/AM/Template ... amp;ContentID=17797) ,然后移民,顺便考PCE2
考完再在本地找ATO,或者回国继续一年ATO

这个办法适合在这里找不到ATO但是在国内有关系的同学。

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发表于 2010-3-22 17:40:36 |只看该作者 微信分享
42# 腿毛菲菲

其实可以毕业以后先移民 因为现在provisional member都可以直接移民
然后再读一年完成四年
再在一般公司做个accounts assistant 一年
这样2年拿到永久回头签 PCE1烤出来后
如果找不到ATO 回国四大几年
然后回来再找ATO 考PCE2

这个办法也适合给找不到ATO但是在国内有关系的同学

其实我觉得NZICA最大的吸引力就是member of GAA  这个美国和英国澳洲都承认  以后去别的国家也方便

ACCA就不提了 根本不是一个档次的  在英国只能算个会计上岗证

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10周年纪念

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发表于 2010-3-22 17:50:30 |只看该作者 微信分享
CA>CPA

从工作和实践中得出的结果。。。。
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42# 腿毛菲菲  

其实可以毕业以后先移民 因为现在provisional member都可以直接移民
然后再读一年完成四年
再在一般公司做个accounts assistant 一年
这样2年拿到永久回头签 PCE1烤出来后
如果找不到ATO 回国 ...
smallice 发表于 2010-3-22 17:40


Prov.都可以了呀,,,,现在真是越来越容易了呢.

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发表于 2010-3-29 23:53:49 |只看该作者 微信分享
纠结 不知道要去CA firm or commercial

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发表于 2010-3-30 00:14:28 |只看该作者 微信分享
发现一条曲线救国的道路:

2.5年读完 bachelor,
part-time 补第四年的棵,full time 积累general experience
申请provisional member of  AT or ACA,考pce1(现在叫foundation)
回国找熟人进四大,积累一年 ...
腿毛菲菲 发表于 2010-3-22 17:34


Mis-leading 菲菲。。。。。
be care of the trap about the working exp.

General exp you can get anywhere. HOWEVER, if you are a AT or ACA, your ATO experience will NOT be counted for CA.

Therefore, you have to enrol for CA for that ATO exp to be taken effect.

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美丽的分割。

TO feifei,

are you in the CA firm?

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发表于 2010-4-12 22:48:49 |只看该作者 微信分享
回41#

你考个ACCA试试,别没事胡说!

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新时政 元老勋章 10周年纪念

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发表于 2012-1-12 19:34:05 |只看该作者 微信分享
又读了一遍
很受益。。。。。。
再次顶起。。。。。。。。。。

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