昨天看到的报导 - 隐形贫困人口

trdeyoualbert

V7 发表于 2018-5-8 12:59
该哪里玩哪里玩儿去，明显现在是90后的天下啊，到处都在哭穷。。。。

就在论坛里玩

reyyerne

christine51277 发表于 2018-5-8 13:59
人家说一家三口 你说的你和老婆。养个小孩三不五时再修修房子做做garden，分分钟秒掉好几个lv。。。。 ...

人家还说没有房贷的情况下需要1800++每周呢。你自己想想一家三口要怎么花1800每周？养个孩子需要800一周？还是1000一周？

eurotour

我家一周800都花不上啊，穷个不像样。。。

翁塞

“不背房贷，一家三口每周也得花1816刀生活”
就这一句，就知道是在胡扯了。。。。。。。。。。。。

autonomae

楼主说的是这篇文章？

http://go.skykiwi.com/e/wap/show2.php?id=10496

鸢芷清

joeistheman 发表于 2018-5-8 10:08
我这是明显贫困人口

神棍叔叔
又装穷人

鸢芷清

本妞
不是隐形贫困人口
是明显贫穷人口

ronaldlu

aj7 发表于 2018-5-8 13:23
我是纯穷人，，

游轮上的。。。

Clark1129

哈哈，那些签约作家的不用太当真，其实就是凑人气贡献原创，并不一定就是天维的立场，更没个鸟代表性，我拜读过好几个人的文章，有些很有水平，有些就是一顿瞎胡扯甚至骂街的

reyyerne

autonomae 发表于 2018-5-8 16:36
楼主说的是这篇文章？

http://go.skykiwi.com/e/wap/show2.php?id=10496

好像不是。。。。。

reyyerne

Clark1129 发表于 2018-5-8 21:58
哈哈，那些签约作家的不用太当真，其实就是凑人气贡献原创，并不一定就是天维的立场，更没个鸟代表性，我拜 ...

是不是应该找些对新西兰有一定了解的作家啊？该不会是个从来都没来过这生活或不了解这的作家吧？

Clark1129

reyyerne 发表于 2018-5-8 22:11
是不是应该找些对新西兰有一定了解的作家啊？该不会是个从来都没来过这生活或不了解这的作家吧？ ...

不需要客观，能吸引眼球就行，你看这么多人喷，就证明这么多人都读过他的文章，点击量就上去了，这就是目的

reyyerne

Clark1129 发表于 2018-5-8 22:13
不需要客观，能吸引眼球就行，你看这么多人喷，就证明这么多人都读过他的文章，点击量就上去了，这就是目 ...

那是在误导读者呢。。。。

浅眠

又是一篇被平均的报道，照这样花我要上街乞讨了……………

Quad

我这是明显贫困人口   

christine51277

reyyerne 发表于 2018-5-8 14:30
人家还说没有房贷的情况下需要1800++每周呢。你自己想想一家三口要怎么花1800每周？养个孩子需要800一周 ...

Calm down, I'll calculate for you. Details of weekly expenses:
Fuel - 2 cars: $200; childcare, $250 (assuming the kid learns nothing else just kindy); supermarket - $400 ($200/per visit, 2 visits per week), dinning outside - $200, household health insurance - $70 ($280 per month); car insurance - $40 ($2,000 for 2 car), house insurance $30, ($1600 p.a.); utility bill $50 ($200 pm average across winter & summer); internet & mobil bills - $60 ($240 per month); clothing - $100 pw per household (3 person annual total $5000 - for 4 quaters i reckon is quite reasonable); house annual maintenance fee $50 ($2,000 p.a.); car service charge - $50 (2 cars annually abt $2K), rent - $500.....
If you total these, that would be $2000 per week already. ..........

All the above are more or less a fair reflection.

You need to include your bills when talking about living costs.....!!!!!!!!!!!!

lianlian88

确实花不了那么多，尤其是什么公立学校一年一万多，那是胡扯。但是我感觉我总得一年留个1万多存着做房屋维修基金吧，万一那天房子出问题了，没那点钱哪行。还有也总得为孩子留点教育基金吧，万一哪天他要上国外的大学呢，所以钱总是不够用的哦。

reyyerne

christine51277 发表于 2018-5-10 13:02
Calm down, I'll calculate for you. Details of weekly expenses:
Fuel - 2 cars: $200; childcare, $25 ...

Have you actually read the full article? also, some of the expenses you listed are not necessities or not necessary. For example, why do you have to use 2 cars? you spend $400 on groceries plus $200 dining out? I wonder what you buy from the supermarket for only 3 of you that need to spend $400. And, you include buying clothes every week as necessity? My home internet and mobile bills only cost less than $130 in total every month, unless you are on high value plans that make you to pay that much. I dont know what cars you are driving that require you to spend $2000 annually for service, unless you are driving expensive cars that you have to pay extra for service.

Anyway, the expenses you listed are not basic living costs, they are instead living costs to live comfortably.

christine51277

reyyerne 发表于 2018-5-10 13:19
Have you actually read the full article? also, some of the expenses you listed are not necessities  ...

well, you can argue that this is the cost to live comfortably however most kiwis are calling "comfortably" as their basic.
car service charges are for TWO cars. internet & mobile are for unlimited fibre plus 2 unlimited mobiles. clothing costs are averaged to weekly including 3 persons everything...Other small things might include toys, extra classes, social costs, entertaining costs, coffee costs etc... are not even mentioned. Hence I don't think it can be called comfortably...
You may think those are not necessary, depends on how you define "necessities".

BTW, the most important point is, based on the so-called "average annual income" provided by NZ STATS, kiwis have to live on a careful budget no matter how hard they work.

KB

christine51277 发表于 2018-5-10 13:02
Calm down, I'll calculate for you. Details of weekly expenses:
Fuel - 2 cars: $200; childcare, $250 ...

我觉得你算的还算中肯,每个家庭情况不一样各个项目有高有低,总数来说普通生活的话1500-2000一周是要的.

爆炸

我没隐形
但是我贫困。。还特困。。

xnw1890

天天在家吃。出去搓一顿能搓没了半周一周伙食钱。经济独立不容易

穷的我 只敢隐身了……

a249614119

NewLynnHse 发表于 2018-5-8 10:12
我不隐形，我是活生生的贫困人口，只买得起10c的鱼罐头

哪里有10C的鱼罐头卖啊？

NewLynnHse

a249614119 发表于 2018-5-17 10:26
哪里有10C的鱼罐头卖啊？

我最爱的TWH

【小老鼠谈购物】FML重死了，原来除了一刀还有更cheap的，今天是Warehouse
http://bbs.skykiwi.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3385897

pkill

是胡扯，我们这种极简主义的家庭，基本上连500刀都花不到。
无欲则刚啊同志们。

tanky

这个帖子会不会让很多人心里不平衡？