又一个谎言被揭穿了

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国家党是想把所有工党的功劳都算到自己头上么？

Former Prime Minister Helen Clark has again shot down one of Bill English's claims that National was responsible for a government policy.

Lawyer Felix Geiringer said on Twitter that English had claimed credit for the government policy to make 90 per cent of New Zealand's energy renewable by 2025.

Clark responded by saying her Labour Government set out the 90 per cent target in 2007.

On Monday, Clark responded to a National tweet which claimed Labour wants to stop projects, accompanied by a photo of the recently finished Waterview Tunnel.

Clark said the decision to build the tunnel was made by her Labour Government.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/new ... 1&objectid=11919611

Bill English 个人品行真是不行。当年在国家最困难的时候他作为财政部长要求全国人民勒紧裤腰带，自己却还在骗房补。

Mr English has come under fire over allowances he claimed for living in his $1.2 million Karori house,

"Given Mr English has told everyone else to tighten their belts, he had no choice but to not take any housing allowance," he said. "But we believe other issues around his housing allowance still need to be cleared up."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/ ... r-housing-allowance

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Bill English 个人品行真是不行。当年在国家最困难的时候他作为财政部长要求全国人民勒紧裤腰带，自己却还在骗房补。

Mr English has come under fire over allowances he claimed for living in his $1.2 million Karori house,

"Given Mr English has told everyone else to tighten their belts, he had no choice but to not take any housing allowance," he said. "But we believe other issues around his housing allowance still need to be cleared up."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/ ... r-housing-allowance

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hsuoechen 发表于 2017-9-8 16:35
对环保议题实在是兴趣缺缺，美国都不要减碳，新西兰就算达成2050零碳家园又能怎样······况且还要问金 ...

华人在新西兰还是算少数，大多数人的兴趣才对选举起决定因素。像华人关心的难民问题，三次辩论提都没提。

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angelee123 发表于 2017-9-8 16:40
最环保的就是do nothing，wear nothing，and go die

不能这么说，如果没有环保，新西兰的旅游根本就发展不起来。

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NewLynnHse 发表于 2017-9-8 17:12
谁这么天真去相信政治家说的话啊？哈哈

我本来觉得English很老实，总是一副很委屈的样子。

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hsuoechen 发表于 2017-9-8 17:19
但是这里是skykiwi···
昨天JA讲climate change 对新西兰就是另一个 nuclear-free movement的意义。
我 ...

新西兰的无核政策是1959年开始的，开始的起因是因为英国在澳大利亚和太平洋地区进行核实验。

新西兰的无核政策是要在新西兰和周边海域建立无核区以防止核实验带来的污染。

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angelee123 发表于 2017-9-8 17:19
我不反对环保，但是环保首先不是一个政党的事，也不是一个两个任期能完成的，这种议题拿到桌面上讨论根本 ...

是English在辩论中把它当成了自己的政绩

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西关大少 发表于 2017-9-8 17:36
政治无谎言，因为政治到处是谎言。DO NOT BE NAIVE。

这是没有错的，这么公开的撒谎把自己没有做的事情算到自己头上还是很少见的。

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angelee123 发表于 2017-9-8 18:28
都是一丘之貉选我最好，第一项法令就是以后男女都可以光着膀子上街

就选你了。。。。。。。

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hsuoechen 发表于 2017-9-8 19:25
1987立法的 而且不是英国，是法国 谢谢

In 1959, responding to rising public concern following the British hydrogen bomb tests in Australia and the Pacific, New Zealand voted in the UN to condemn nuclear testing while the UK, US and France voted against, and Australia abstained.[11] In 1961, CND urged the New Zealand government to declare that it would not acquire or use nuclear weapons and to withdraw from nuclear alliances such as ANZUS. In 1963, the Auckland CND campaign submitted its 'No Bombs South of the Line' petition to the New Zealand parliament with 80,238 signatures calling on the government to sponsor an international conference to discuss establishing a nuclear-free-zone in the southern hemisphere. It was the biggest petition in the nation since the one in 1893 which demanded that women must have the right to vote.[12]

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hsuoechen 发表于 2017-9-8 20:20
别只贴 Historical background
真正触动社会的是 Sinking of the Rainbow Warrior

我对这一段历史了解的不多。
如果你清楚的话，可以给大家介绍一下。

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小手冰凉的兔子 发表于 2017-9-8 19:40
这个就太勉强了，海伦克拉克上台前承诺的真正实现的有多少事呢？就像这次工党大姐说要帮助homeless，帮助ch ...

好吧，你能说说工党的那个政策不是change life，而是hand out呢？

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Clark1129 发表于 2017-9-8 20:30
那啥，我弱弱的问一句，有不撒谎的政客吗

不知道啊，你如果知道的话可以举个例子么？

不管怎么说在这种公开辩论中把其他政党的政绩算到自己头上的应该还是不多的。

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tianyalpangzi 发表于 2017-9-8 19:55
Bill撒谎惯了，都知道了，没有人信了。

主要还在国家困难的时候往自己口袋里面捞钱，你说怎么信任他？

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小手冰凉的兔子 发表于 2017-9-8 20:53
为了回答你这个问题特地去把工党的政策看了一下。关于homeless的和child poverty，工党的政策就是给钱给 ...

以下是工党关于homeless的政策，请问哪里是hand out呢？

Take serious action to end homelessness
Labour will take serious action to end homelessness in line with the recommendations of the Cross-Party Homelessness Inquiry.

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mnstar 发表于 2017-9-8 21:10
你说B把其他政党的政绩算到自己头上，那我是不是也可以说J是拿着全体纳税人的钱给领福利的懒人开支票？
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领福利的懒人，以下国家党开的支票

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mnstar 发表于 2017-9-8 21:31
国家党做这么多你都不满意了，那工党开的更大的支票谁买单？

国家党开的支票你可以忍，工党开的你不能忍？

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mnstar 发表于 2017-9-8 21:43
看懂中文再来讨论

工党开的更大的支票谁买单，更大你懂不懂

没办法，又要上图。更大的支票，更大的开支，更多的债。

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Clark1129 发表于 2017-9-9 10:24
所以你这么兴奋干嘛。。。。所有政治家都是骗子，还是职业的，英明工党难道全是实在人哈哈？你这种攻击模 ...

我没有兴奋啊，就事论事罢了。

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Clark1129 发表于 2017-9-9 11:40
找到所谓一个政客的一句瞎话，看你们一个个如获至宝如持尚方宝剑，我就觉得好玩，自己白，再去讽刺别人黑 ...

说点实际的吧，这种话有什么意义呢？工党说谎，举个例子吧。