1.5代移民 对于孩子上学选学校的一点看法 欢迎大家讨论（待续）更新到10楼~~

cindyppz

koddie 发表于 2012-2-26 19:59
我吹 clarinet, 我可以非常负责任的说  确实长双下巴  而且两颊容易胖

是的。。我现在都有双下巴。。。还有小肚子。。。。。=.= 55555

四个太阳

主要学钢琴，基础好了，在学长笛，小提琴之类的。
我家闺女就这样。钢琴上individual课，长笛，小提琴group跟着，不用太练也能跟上。现在在乐队拉小提琴。
钢琴也很好呀，在rock band键盘，很cool的

koddie

cindyppz 发表于 2012-2-26 19:19
奇怪了呢~你们数学的也太容易了~

我们bio的给了六七次的题，每次几十道。。而且是限时做的。。。变态呢 ...

恩  正相反   就是因为可以拿回家做一周  所以题一点都不简单  要不人人都考上了  怎么全国选24个呢  没有地方可以抄袭  考的是智力  不是应试能力

我相信 bio 也一定很难  但和数学的着重点不同  数学主要是看学生的逻辑思维  即使题没有完全答对  也没关系 他们要看你的思路

我是 Form 5 被选上的   当时我们camp 是24个人，外加一个澳洲派来的，共是25个人，分2组， advanced 和 一般的，一般组12人 ， advanced 13 个（包括澳洲人） 我是在 advanced.，. 当时我认识内些孩子，现在基本都是名校 PHD 毕业了，MIT, NSW.. 呵呵  可以说素质还算八错的


恩  跳级要看学校  可能Maclean的华人太多了吧.. 我是后来转到  的  当时没有很多留学生 但是很多台湾和香港移民的孩子和我同届。.   内时候是北岸最好的学校了  当时跳级的也就是我  还有一个Form 5 的洋人男孩   Rangi 比较麻烦一点  但当时 I wont take No for an answer, 直接去找副校长了,  他们就同意了 但是条件是 Bursary 不能考2遍  就是提前考完了  那么 Form 7 不能再考

cindyppz

koddie 发表于 2012-2-27 03:49
恩  正相反   就是因为可以拿回家做一周  所以题一点都不简单  要不人人都考上了  怎么全国选24个呢  没有 ...

bio当时是给电子考卷的。也就是说，只有right or wrong, 没有所谓的思路。我个人觉得有点变态，因为bio这种科目很少有‘天才’那种高中可以上大学课程的人。能跳一级都算不容易了。而他给我们考的东西都是大学的，推荐的课本是我后来大一用的课本。当时根本不知道哪里可以弄到！也没有老师帮忙什么的。

新西兰数学跳几级并不难。。。bio弄得比较变态 =.= 毕竟都是刚读完form 6的学生。。

现在不光maclean。我知道的大多学校都不主张让人跳级。人才流失太厉害。我觉得还是不跳级的好。我跳了两年，16岁上大学，太累了。。

koddie

cindyppz 发表于 2012-2-27 07:08
bio当时是给电子考卷的。也就是说，只有right or wrong, 没有所谓的思路。我个人觉得有点变态，因为bio这 ...

哈 很厉害啊 你是 Form 6 和 Form 7 都没上吗  

恩  跳级各有利弊吧 我在国内是小学跳级 智力上我觉得没什么分别    就是体育课总是跟不上 10岁和8岁的孩子体力上还是有区别的  然后心理不成熟   但是也会感觉很有荣誉感啊  别人问起来  都感觉挺骄傲的  哈  各有利弊吧

那你现在做什么的  看你说很多 bio 你上大学是学得 bio 吗

cindyppz

koddie 发表于 2012-2-27 09:26
哈 很厉害啊 你是 Form 6 和 Form 7 都没上吗  

恩  跳级各有利弊吧 我在国内是小学跳级 智力上我觉得 ...

没有。。我是year 4和form 7.

跳级无非是为了早上大学。我总觉得中国大学都是看智力，早一点无所谓。这边不是的。智力是一回事，可是思想成熟和理解力是另外一回事。。。

提早上大学，听着挺牛，其实也挺不容易的

看帖不仔细啊！我学的生物医学，毕业后又学了secondary teaching. 好不容易学完了，结婚了，怀孕了。现在在家待产孕妇一枚~ 呵呵

koddie

cindyppz 发表于 2012-2-27 09:42
没有。。我是year 4和form 7.

跳级无非是为了早上大学。我总觉得中国大学都是看智力，早一点无所谓。 ...

我没在国内上大学 高中  不清楚  我没感觉理解力有差别 成熟度有些  but not enough to have any actual impact on day to day life. .每人感觉不同 还要具体情况具体分析  我赞成不要拔苗助长  但是真的要是很有天分的话  也没有必要一直在高中窝着

哈哈 你真是一切都赶在别人前面啊  都怀孕啦  take care, 祝福啊

cindyppz

koddie 发表于 2012-2-27 12:06
我没在国内上大学 高中  不清楚  我没感觉理解力有差别 成熟度有些  but not enough to have any actual  ...

分科目把。研究性的我觉得到后面需要一定的理解力。太多case study了，不理解或是见识不够深会比较吃力。第一年几乎没有，到了第三年和post会需要满深的理解能力。

我不觉得再高中是 ‘窝’着，可能观念不同，学习是一回事，社会经验也是很重要的。

唉。。。人生走的太快也是一件悲哀的事情 哈哈。

koddie

cindyppz 发表于 2012-2-27 12:07
分科目把。研究性的我觉得到后面需要一定的理解力。太多case study了，不理解或是见识不够深会比较吃力。 ...

social science 我可以理解  纯粹的 Science, 影响不大。理解力，就是悟性，是智力的一种体现，在15，6岁后不会有太多的变化， 不是年龄的问题。任何Science 科目 都需要深刻的理解力.  上大学需要社会经验吗？ 我没觉得 。The best thing about university is that you dont need to fit in... 但是还是说  每个人的 experience 不同  这个不能一概而论  Many great scientists were child prodigies, many of them finished university by the age of 17. I can hardly see the negative impact it had on their life.

I agree with you. that this may not be for everyone. But. if some kids are truly bright, then why not let them go to university earlier?

Dont be offended, this is merely a discussion  :)

cindyppz

koddie 发表于 2012-2-27 13:45
social science 我可以理解  纯粹的 Science, 影响不大。理解力，就是悟性，是智力的一种体现，在15，6岁 ...

not offended at all. not quite sure which degree you took, i just think science is quite different. well, again, depending on the particular branch of science. i had absolutely no difficulties with taking maths in uni. even though it wasn't even part of my degree. i managed to take up to stage 2 maths, loved it, found it easy, hardly attended lectures, and still passed with flying colours. don't feel the same about biomed.

purely based on my experiences, i dont agree with what you say about you don't need to fit into uni. i actually think you do. and it's importatnt that you do in order to get the most out of it. i didn't really fit into uni. i missed out on so much. partly it was because i knew no one. none of my friends were around to gossip. i knew no one whom to ask for advice. i just sat there trying to fend myself as well as trying to keep my grades up. hey i'm a social animal. i need friends of my own age, not sex-deprived, living-in-a-bar 20 something year olds! i can hardly understand half of the stuff in the student magazine craccum until late in my 2nd year!

1st year biomed was still off books. as long as you can take it all in it's fine. by 3rd year biomed and postgrad biomed, i started to struggle because there were so many different issues to consider and take in. every now and then there would be 'do you remember this xxx incident xxx years back?'. the answer was...um...no...coz i was hardly out of primary school? there was no longer a right or wrong answer. it's hard for me coz i was so used to having a 'correct way of answering quesitons'. took me a while to get used to it.

as for the prodigies....really how many are there? lots of kids are smart, but prodigies? i think the definition of a prodigy is when you can stop going by the books with them. which means that all this discussion, advice etc will not apply to them.

prayer914

想问问LZ，如果孩子碰到个不给力的老师， 怎么办？没经验，搞不清每个小孩子的实力，上课和作业什么的，NOT ORGANISED。。。。想跟老师开个会，但又怕得罪老师。。。

cindyppz

prayer914 发表于 2012-2-27 15:33
想问问LZ，如果孩子碰到个不给力的老师， 怎么办？没经验，搞不清每个小孩子的实力，上课和作业什么的，NOT ...

说实话。。。。没啥办法

新老师肯定有新老师的问题。就像我当年化学老师，还经常教错我们呢。你可以试图和hod沟通。这样就可以保持anonymous.

prayer914

cindyppz 发表于 2012-2-27 14:42
说实话。。。。没啥办法

新老师肯定有新老师的问题。就像我当年化学老师，还经常教错我们呢。你可以试 ...

what is hod?

cindyppz

prayer914 发表于 2012-2-27 15:45
what is hod?

head of department. 你女儿是小学把? 那就是head of year或是head of syndicate. 负责整个年级或是两个年级的老师。

prayer914

cindyppz 发表于 2012-2-27 14:46
head of department. 你女儿是小学把? 那就是head of year或是head of syndicate. 负责整个年级或是两个年 ...

Oh I see. Thank you. Will we remain anonymous?

koddie

cindyppz 发表于 2012-2-27 12:57
not offended at all. not quite sure which degree you took, i just think science is quite different ...

Sure. I took  then .

Most papers under Stage 3 does not reflect the difficulty of the course. I understand that you are bright, and that even a bright girl like you did not enjoy university as much as you would have, all because you attended at an earlier age. But this does not necessarily apply to everyone. I know some 15yrs old who really enjoyed himself at university.

There is a huge difference between high school and university by default. Everyone would have gone through a transitional period during their first year, regardless of age :)

I have attended 4 different high school during my 5 yrs of high school. I know who horrible high school can be sometimes.  First week at a new school was always the hardest,  you would have to pick which groups of girl to talk to, whom to sit around with for lunch. After all, who was to look like a loner?

But, at university, you wouldnt need to pick whom to sit with for lunch. You dont have to hang around with the popular kids, you wouldnt get mocked if you were hanging around with loners. And as a last resort, you can always hang around with the geeks :P

I never felts like I really fitted into the Engineering family .. but Computer Science was a different story. I met plenty of friends. So, it may not have as much to do with age as you think.

I  really enjoyed university, as soon as I turned 18, I had my fair share of partying, clubbing and drinking. :P I did a lot traveling, I went hiking and scuba diving, I met friends that really supported and inspired me :) I never studied that hard. And I did not really think any of my courses were that difficult. I never had to be the best and brightest, i studied mostly out of interest and curiosity  :) Sure, life had its down moments, but still it was great learning new things and meeting new people. Life was like a big adventure   

All I am saying is that, everyone  is different, just because it may not be the right thing for some, it does not mean that it is not the right thing for anyone :)

cindyppz

prayer914 发表于 2012-2-27 15:48
Oh I see. Thank you. Will we remain anonymous?

you can always ask to stay anonymous. just raise your concerns with the syndicate leader who can speak to, or know who could speak to, your child's classroom teacher. just tell them for the child's sake you're just concerned about her progress in class and don't feel like the teacher is doing much. however you do not wish to be named. just try to keep it 'cool'

兔兔妈

原来是学妹，哈哈哈哈，我也是MT ROSKILL毕业的，04年毕业的

cindyppz

koddie 发表于 2012-2-27 16:11
Sure. I took Engineering then Computer Science.

Most papers under Stage 3 does not reflect the  ...

see, for me, going to uni ahead of all my old friends was almost like going to a new school. maybe i'm just one of those unadventurous ppl. i had so much trouble making new friends.

i had gangs of friends (not close friends, just ppl whom i could hang out if i see them, but not really ppl who i'd call to hang out). who studied engine, partly coz i worked in the engineering library for 4 years. at least they had tutorials and small groups. with biomed it's like 500 ppl lectures, every single paper that we had. i had no idea who the other biomed ppl were. the only person that i got to see fortnightly on a more intimate basis was my lab partner. just one person. funnily enough, the only way i made friends was during exams and tests......

so for me, first year uni was like stranded in this ocean of ppl whom looked either like loners, or who were already in gangs. every now and then when i do find a group to hang out with, they look at me strangely when i tell them i cant go out for drinks with them coz 1 i'm only 16, and 2ndly my mother is expecting me home for dinner. after one and a bit years of that, surprise surprise everyone had formed their friend groups, and i'm still, not exactly a loner, but more of a wanderer. 2nd year uni, my high school friends finally caught up. no one was in biomed. and after a year of not catching up as much, we've changed a little, no more high school BFFs.

so nope, always been a good girl. never went clubbing. never went to clubs. the first time i had alcohol outside without my family was an innocent sake with my japanese lunch, this was when i was 20 and dating my current husband :)

i do know some young kids in uni. maybe i'm just being...too judgemental. there's this young boy in engine who was like 15 or something when he started. and he looked like he was 15. i'm not gonna doubt his intelligence. but everyone treated him like a kid. his 'sweet sixteen' party was a teenager home gathering movie party.... i dont like being treated like a kid. but i always did coz of my age. and its not like i deliberately reveal it. all my uni colleagues only take pubs as social gatherings....

cindyppz

koddie 发表于 2012-2-27 16:11
Sure. I took Engineering then Computer Science.

Most papers under Stage 3 does not reflect the  ...

诶光跟你聊。。。刚才包子忘了关火 =.=

cindyppz

兔兔妈 发表于 2012-2-27 16:24
原来是学妹，哈哈哈哈，我也是MT ROSKILL毕业的，04年毕业的

我是06年。。。其实是07界的。。不过06年完事我就跑了。。。

估计咱俩在学校能见过面。。

koddie

cindyppz 发表于 2012-2-27 15:33
see, for me, going to uni ahead of all my old friends was almost like going to a new school. maybe ...

Sure, I see where you are coming from.  I think now we can agree that this is really a personal experience

Live and let live :)

Thanks for sharing your side of the story, it is always nice hearing different voices :) I have to go, take care, and lets char another day :)

狼姥姥二世

dear lz
the cats garden is still there but wats up with the lavendar hedge? i still cant find it........
if money frows on trees then maybe people will learn to STOP CHOPPING DOWN THE FOREST MAN!!!!!
ENVIRO ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!! and besides i quit cats 4 like 2 terms.......and was only in it like in yr6

cindyppz

狼姥姥二世 发表于 2012-3-5 20:20
dear lz
the cats garden is still there but wats up with the lavendar hedge? i still cant find it... ...

omg jo wth?!

ok i'm gonna ignore you. you were supposed to be doing your maths homework.

狼姥姥二世

cindyppz 发表于 2012-3-6 13:38
omg jo wth?!

ok i'm gonna ignore you. you were supposed to be doing your maths homework.

actually, i finished. and sry, i think they chopped down ur lavendar hedge. theres now a whole bunch odfpotatoes

环舞

lz中文真好

cindyppz

啊~~ 差点忘了这个帖子的存在

请允许我自己小小的顶一下~~~

cindyppz

狼姥姥二世 发表于 2012-3-19 17:11
actually, i finished. and sry, i think they chopped down ur lavendar hedge. theres now a whole bun ...

btw jo, you can't spell :D
s.h.a.m.e

AIAL

米虫宝宝 发表于 2012-2-20 08:00
小提琴伤脖子啊，我有个朋友说她小时候学小提琴第一年老师就只让她学用脖子夹琴

希望我家女儿以后 ...

晕，小提琴不伤脖子啊，我小时候学那么久也没见脖子出问题的。我老师倒是说有的孩子夹琴动作不正确会伤脖子。
夹琴么，看天赋。我第一次去老师家，老师夹了下让我看，我一看就会夹了，一点问题都没有。
大提琴很沉，女孩儿以后一个人搬琴是个体力活。

AIAL

robertbao 发表于 2012-2-20 08:14
长笛怎么会伤呢？我是想让女儿现在学钢琴，然后8,9岁的时候转学长笛呢

学笛子貌似伤气。我有阵就和我妈说想学长笛，被说伤元气打回申请……