谈谈Flat bush的房子

songinator

拉德方斯 发表于 2014-5-30 00:12
现在的新房质量依然很差，我也有耳闻，那里的房子基本中看不中用

flat bush已经是沿海某省和印度建筑工 ...

据你说吧 情调查后再发言

flat bush到是master builder和fletcher比较多 中区相对印度建筑工的天下

cherrycy

现在的新房都已经100万左右，发展商都已经赚了大部分利润，还有什么潜力可言，虽然6,7房，当年租出去搞得好像集体宿舍，管理都烦死你。

nanjingwy

Ls, 100万还有什么好的选择吗?

mls84

小地大房，无树木，高围墙无私隐，房间多，但是无设计，而且还狂出租。这就是大多数人引以为傲的，今日的百万豪宅。

fzy5007

新马甸甸 发表于 2014-5-26 23:59
太平分店已经开业了。

求告知太平新店的具体地址，家住botony junction附进 逛了一圈愣是没找到

pear

fzy5007 发表于 2014-6-15 17:41
求告知太平新店的具体地址，家住botony junction附进 逛了一圈愣是没找到

我在华页上看到的， 在meter 10 mega 旁边。

fzy5007

pear 发表于 2014-6-15 20:23
我在华页上看到的， 在meter 10 mega 旁边。

谢谢~

fzy5007

phlip0813 发表于 2014-6-15 20:49
Mitre10 mega旁边 kitchen & things后面

谢谢~~~~~~~~

bressanone.nz

不错   我觉得不错

anshanbox

朋友买房的小窍门:   去房屋中介自住多的地方买。

                       理由:     他们成天和房屋打交道。   

                       疑惑:     为什么Flat Bush 这么好的地方没有房屋中介买来自住？

Venox10111

anshanbox 发表于 2014-7-6 16:50
朋友买房的小窍门:   去房屋中介自住多的地方买。

                       理由:     他们成天和房屋打交 ...

我家旁边住的就是 property coach.... 一个名中介住的也不远。看来是个靠谱的窍门，哈哈

onmountain

骑着绵羊上高速 发表于 2014-5-26 16:13
在flat bush住过1年半，总体感觉并不好，小地大房，房屋密度高，隐私性低，房子质量也感觉很一般，最主要的 ...

你在parnell上班买flatbush，估计你肯定看中新房和那边开阔的视野吧，因为我也是这么想的，的确各个方面都不错。但交通问题实在是没有办法解决的问题，每个地方都差不多。
我在St Johns上班，但我住东区Sunnyhills， 当时选择住Sunnyhills的原因就是不能一早就堵在路上，受不了这种情况。从Sunnyhills是东区最近高速的好区，如果上高速，会在plaza这里的转弯口等一下，一会就能上south-eastern highway，挺方便，但ellerslie转弯处堵，这是正常的。但我去St Johns，就不必上高速了。我在plaza这里直走到panmure，这里早上真的没什么车，从来没有堵过。到St Johns，后转Remuera Rd，也是不太堵的，但到左转Greenlane rd时有点堵的，但你上parnell不用左转，也是直走，所以也不太堵，直接就到New Market了，再就是parnell了，你可以选择走这条，虽然红灯多点，但可能不会堵在那里。心情舒服一些。

onmountain

SsLlYy 发表于 2014-5-26 16:28
北岸同学出现了 欢迎   交通的话之前的帖子已经讨论过了 交通的话北岸和东区对等的区进城是差不多的
...

说得没错。其实那里都堵，但那里都有好区，方便上高速的区或不走高速直走小路方便的区。我最早住过西区avondale是比较近调整的，所以现在房价涨得也历害。北岸northcote,birkenhead,onewa也近高速，但如果在northcote的lake rd上高速，每天早上要堵很长时间，因为跟onewa路想冲，两边夹上来争一条路上高速，堵得要死，但北岸没有其它小路可以到CITY，也只能这样了。东区pakuraga height，Sunnyhills是最近高速的，除了plaza转弯处堵一点，接下去就好了，但上到ellerslie就会堵上，但总比在小路上等好些；但如果不在CITY上班的，可以走小路到panmure。总体感觉东区这一段比较方便。

onmountain

athean 发表于 2014-5-26 16:38
我同意你的观点，我现在就住在北岸albany, 每天堵得我呀，唉。。
我觉得应该和flat bush 差不多把。
舒适 ...

北岸3B指那里呀？

onmountain

songinator 发表于 2014-5-26 18:26
你看的那些都是新造的6房 而且靠flat bush school rd那边 比较奇葩的户型  一般家庭买的比较少 喜欢的就 ...

最近中介也跟我这样说，flat bush房子不太好卖，我看了一下主要集中在大户型的，特别一些加了plaster的都是议价的。难得出来几个多年前的好房，一下子就抢了。上个月去看了一个楼下三房，楼上三房，但可以独立分租，10年的老房，一进去就是想欣赏无限的感觉，第二周就被pre-auction offer了，最后400平方的地，拍到98.5万，确实不贵。但最近看flat bush的新房，真的没有设计感，纯一色的样子，提不起欣赏感，即使有分租潜力可以cover mortage，但也不想自己住在里面，房价也都拍不起来。是不是这样？最后还是看sunnyhills这些优质老区吧。

onmountain

songinator 发表于 2014-5-26 18:26
你看的那些都是新造的6房 而且靠flat bush school rd那边 比较奇葩的户型  一般家庭买的比较少 喜欢的就 ...

非新房的，往往都有一些的感觉，特别一些设计好的，确实卖得很快，看过两套小4房的600的地，都到95万了，看齐6房的新房了。

所以如果买地建房，花4000或8000或15000刀做设计呢？我想我应该选择8000－15000比较合适。这种有设计美感的，又能溶入华人想有出租潜力的设计会是比较好的。

ctai010

anshanbox 发表于 2014-7-6 17:50
朋友买房的小窍门:   去房屋中介自住多的地方买。

                       理由:     他们成天和房屋打交 ...

How do you know there is no agent buy FB house for there own occupation?

The listing agent of this property just recently bought a new house right at heart of FB for herself:
http://www.barfoot.co.nz/538100

Another friend of mine last year sold his FB house at Auction, and the buyer is owner of a property agent francise (at East Auckland), according to law real estate agent need do a compulsory valuation report and submit to the seller (my friend). My friend don't know this before hand and he very curious why there a buyer bought a house on auction and immediately do a valuation report, in the end his lawyer explained to him the reason and it make sense in the end.

In my very limited knowledge I already know 2 agents (whom must have dealt with many FB properties with firsthand experience) recently bought at FB for themself.

ctai010

onmountain 发表于 2015-3-23 10:44
最近中介也跟我这样说，flat bush房子不太好卖，我看了一下主要集中在大户型的，特别一些加了plaster的都 ...

you are entitled to have your own opinion, but this statement - 'flat bush房子不太好卖' doesn't not reflect the truth at all.

Surely there is some houses build with cheap materials or asking very high price didn't sell as fast.

But those build with good / reasonble materials sell amazing quick. Basically the good ones and the reasonably priced ones all sell within weeks (or days).

If you viste FB frequently, you'll find almost every week there will be new house sold and new house bring into market. There must be at least 1 new property bring into the market every week. Over the past 3 years there must be hundreds of houses build (if not more). If 'flat bush房子不太好卖", shouldn't you see FB filled with "For Sale" sign when you drive down the street?  That's clearly not the case.

There is a new house in FB sold just 1-2 days after bring on to market at premium price. Is there any new suburbs (Hosbonvile, Stonefield, Silverwater...) have cases like that? Please share if you know any.


Sound like you have property in North Shore. Why so many Asians like to demonize FB just because they don't have property at FB? I personally find that very hard to understand.

enningtang

flatbush目前的房价快赶上albany吧？稍微便宜点？如果楼主打算长住flatbush,得算一算消耗在路上的时间和资源。 上下班高峰期每天堵在路上应该耗3个小时左右，一年下来差不多要780小时等于浪费一个月的时间，如果是打工你的老板是不会付你这个费用，那等于白白没了11115刀，加上油钱，1万3少不了。如果住albany，开车肯定也堵，建议你坐albany express公车, 上车20分钟内保证到市区，算它来回1个小时的话一年可以节约21天的时间。但如果在flatbush坐bus，应该比开车更慢吧。节约下来的时间可以让你吃个好早餐，睡个好觉，还不会因为迟到被老板责备，可以早点到家，可以干很多自己的事情。

songinator

ctai010 发表于 2015-3-23 11:09
you are entitled to have your own opinion, but this statement - 'flat bush房子不太好卖' doesn't not ...

i know eh

i just saw a terraced house sold for 720000 in 2 weeks and another 4 bedroom house got a pre auction offer and owner refused.
all i can see is houses in FB got sold within a month

all they just say is "i heard" without proving

songinator

enningtang 发表于 2015-3-23 11:31
flatbush目前的房价快赶上albany吧？稍微便宜点？如果楼主打算长住flatbush,得算一算消耗在路上的时间和资 ...

yeah right       look at the job concentration map of auckland.... like everyone needs to go to city for work

onmountain

ctai010 发表于 2015-3-23 12:09
you are entitled to have your own opinion, but this statement - 'flat bush房子不太好卖' doesn't not ...

不好意思，可能我没有写清楚。中介跟我说很多没有设计感的FB的房子不好卖。当然有设计感的应该没有问题。我并没有说FB的房子不好，我还是挺喜欢那个地方的。这个地方应该可以跟albany相比的。并且非常开阔，非常适合户外活动，各种设施齐全，非常方便。

ctai010

enningtang 发表于 2015-3-23 12:31
flatbush目前的房价快赶上albany吧？稍微便宜点？如果楼主打算长住flatbush,得算一算消耗在路上的时间和资 ...

Firstly for house of similar condition, Albany is at least 15% to 30% more expensive than FB.
With a 1 million dollars house, that's 150k to 300k, I don't think that's just 稍為便宜點吧?

But the northern bus express way is indeed a huge advantage over FB, there is no dispute about that. Although I doubt if 20 min is really enough to get from Albany to cbd at peak traffic. Even when I'm driving my own car at off peak hours (ie Saturday lunchtime), it takes way more to reach between Albany to Cbd.

However firstly not everyone work at Cbd, secondly even if you work at cbd, it may still be a 20 to 30 min walk from your house to Albany bus station, and for city but station to your cbd office.

I personally know a friend live in Albany and work at cbd, even with Albany express bus, he still need wake up at 630am in order to arrive at 830am at city, just in case if he missed a bus, traffic is bad at Harbor bridge etc...  Plus it's a long walk from bus stop to his office

enningtang

ctai010 发表于 2015-3-23 15:27
Firstly for house of similar condition, Albany is at least 15% to 30% more expensive than FB.
With ...

Houses in Albany are expensive for some good reasons, such as better building materials, better design, and bigger lands, which are worth for 150k-300k more.

I got 5 colleagues living in Browns bay Torbay and Mairangi bay they all take Albany Express to work and usually spend 40-45 mins on their ways. And another colleague in Glenfield usually spends 45 mins on driving, one in beach heaven spends 45 mins on birkenhead buses.  I live in Glenfield and I drive to Onewa Road and jump on a bus which takes me 15 mins to arrive in CBD. I never heard anyone had to spend 1 hour on the way to work in CBD. Maybe your friend will need to look for a better way.

gwu

现在好像住北岸是身份的体现。。。

ctai010

enningtang 发表于 2015-3-23 16:29
Houses in Albany are expensive for some good reasons, such as better building materials, better des ...

what I said is bus travel time + walking time from home to bus station + walking time from bus station to offce all add together. I'm not trying to say the bus alone take 1hour plus.

I don't disagree the north bus express is awesome. It's truely a unique advantage of North Shore.
Driving to city for work is getting hard and harder, not to mention parking is getting more scarce and more expensive.

And I also agree with you that Albany house tend to have better design and material, but not always. Albany builders aim for a higher market segment and probabily have a higher profit margin, so more money can go into design, material etc.. Flat Bush basically aim for the buyers can't afford (or don't want to) buy North Shore / Central properties, and generially have a smaller profile margin, so less money (or no money..) goes into design etc..

But not always, I'm sure if people willing to look around and prepared to pay more, there must still be top quality houses in FB.
  
But coming back to the original point, 150k -  300k isn't small money, personally for me, 150k-300k more mortgage will push me over the boundry to consider the house as unaffordable. 50-100k more I can accept, but not 150k-300k.

enningtang

ctai010 发表于 2015-3-23 16:52
what I said is bus travel time + walking time from home to bus station + walking time from bus sta ...

Sorry for my bad English, what I tried to say is that none of my colleagues spends 1 hours on their way to the office, which includes walk/run, drive, and bus.
I don't mean Flat bush is not a good place to live or houses in FB are very bad but according to the traffic situation if people work in CBD, I don't recommend buying a house in Flat bush cos the everyday journey will cost a lot of money. And after 5 years, people would find they could buy a house in a better location with the extra transport costs.
My idea is, for living, find a place closing to work and pay what you can offer, after years you might find that could save a lot and the house would not drop its value; for investments, find a place still being development and rent to people work closing there, there will be potential to grow in the future.

Rw1234

我觉得albany比fb贵的原因是地普遍稍大吧。其实无论工作机会，方便程度，户外休闲活动等等各方面FB都要好过Albany。

晴天布布

有没有人可以解释一下25楼的话。有亲眼目睹的吗？