每个人都可以为抑制油价出分力！！！

jenny1997

请问你家的车是用原油的吗？请认真看我的帖子。你别乱说，欢欢。

我做了20年的石化国际贸易生意，这点事情还能记得。还不信，

请看中国贸促会的介绍：www.tdb.org.cn/interMarket/15478.html - 30k

我希望这个话题的讨论争论就此打住，让我们共同努力，做点实事。多页。

ybbest

It is not the gas , it is about their food,grocery.

ybbest

Really , but the bp is xxxing busy.............................

Lilac

本来就不用它家的，不到万不得已的地步都尽量去shell。。。

z-score

原帖由 huanAK 于 2008-5-20 00:06 发表



十年前加油站的时油价是大约 0。83-0.89 /liter。

都10年了，涨一倍多也应该吧.

别忘了现在的石油储藏量才够用40年而以，所以在没找到代替能源之前，油价会无限的涨下去。

我记得以前 可口可乐 ...

我抵制coke.

有时跳舞

原帖由 z-score 于 2008-5-20 10:52 发表


嗯，这种的确不好改变，我们这里也都用BP的油，没办法，政府就认为BP的油最好。

BP是British Petroleum
这里的人对英国的东西还是有感情的，
同等条件下，政府用BP的油，民众更容易接受（我的祖父，祖祖父，祖祖祖父……是英国人，祖上也曾经阔过）

huanAK

原帖由 jenny1997 于 2008-5-20 15:09 发表
请问你家的车是用原油的吗？请认真看我的帖子。你别乱说，欢欢。

我做了20年的石化国际贸易生意，这点事情还能记得。还不信，

请看中国贸促会的介绍：www.tdb.org.cn/interMarket/15478.html - 30k

...

I am sorry， I think you miss my point。 作为一个顾客，我在乎的是汽油零售价，而不是出原油的批发价，就如我说的，十年前的汽油零售价是83-89cents/L，十年后的今天才涨了两倍多一点点，你看看看其他产品，比如房子，木材，食物，等等，包括最简单的 可口可乐都涨了两倍，何况珍贵的石油呢。


对不起，不该波你冷水的，我想说的是，市场不需要解释的，存在就有它的道理，我们改变不了，只能去适应它，或者改变我们自己。 当然每个人的方式都不同，更多的人只能去适应了，也有人学着去改变自己，改变驾车习惯，或者开跟省油的车。

锤子+小刀

我抵制一切碳酸饮料！！

sunmarty

not gonna help a lot....BP only with the market price..nothing they can do..not BP..will be Mobile..SHELL.....because they all want to get the right market price...!!

dizzylizzy

同事发给我的邮件:

LET'S JUST DO IT ! ! !

THIS IS NOT THE 'DON'T BUY' PETROL FOR ONE DAY, BUT IT WILL SHOW YOU HOW WE CAN GET PETROL BACK DOWN TO $1.00 PER Litre....hopefully


This was originally sent by a retired Coca Cola executive. If you are tired of the gas prices going up AND they will continue to rise this winter, take time to read this PLEASE.

Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea.

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain day' campaign that was going around last April or May!

It's worth your consideration. Join the resistance!!!!

We are going to hit $ 2.00 a litre and it might go higher!! Want petrol prices to come down?

We need to take some intelligent, united action. The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to 'hurt' ourselves by refusing to buy petrol.

It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.

BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can Really work. Please read on and join with us!

By now you're probably thinking petrol priced at about $1.50 is cheap.
It is currently $1.90 for regular unleaded.

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a liter of gas is CHEAP at $1.50, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace...not sellers.

With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action.

The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their petrol! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.

How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying petrol.

But we CAN have an impact on petrol prices if we all act together to force a price war.

Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from BP
NZ the biggest price up driver company.

If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of BP NZ petrol buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to 20 people. If each of us s end it to at least ten more (20 x 10 = 200) .. And those 200 send it to at least ten more (200 x 10 = 2000 ... and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth group of people, we will have reached over TWO MILLION consumers.
If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 20 million people will have been contacted!

If it goes one level further, you guessed it..... TWO HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all!


I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you!
Acting together we can make a difference.

If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO BELOW THE $1.50 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK.

Simple - send the message along to other and do not buy petrol from BP NZ.

xiaolu

理论不错……不过……貌似NZ所有的油都是BP的……？

sushuo

Hi,

Are ever increasing Petrol prices driving you mad?

Last time we filled up a 70litre tank it cost 1.91c/litre or over $130-00.

Is the price of petrol impacting your pocket?

Do you want a good way to reduce petrol prices?



We CAN have an impact on petrol prices if we all act together to force a price war.

Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from BP
NZ the biggest price up driver company.  They are usually the first to increase prices.

If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of BP NZ petrol buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to 20 people. If each of us send it to at least ten more (20 x 10 = 200) .... And those 200 send it to at least ten more (200 x 10 = 2000 ..... and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth group of people, we will have reached over TWO MILLION consumers.
If those two million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 20 million people will have been contacted!  Perhaps noone in NZ would be using BP

Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people and stay away from BP.  That's all!  The power of One person acting.

I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you!
Acting together we can make a difference.

If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on


Simple � send the message along to others and do not buy petrol from BP NZ.

Kind regards


Dave (and Nikki) Stanton
Aoraki Cottage @ Wellspring Farm
In the heart of the South Island, NZ

Garywind

原帖由 huanAK 于 2008-5-19 22:47 发表



I am sorry， I think you miss my point。 作为一个顾客，我在乎的是汽油零售价，而不是出原油的批发价，就如我说的，十年前的汽油零售价是83-89cents/L，十年后的今天才涨了两倍多一点点，你看看看其他 ...

有什么好sorry的，楼主大人，别人有不同的意见还不能说了么，20多年的石油贸易经验还用得着在这里呼吁抵制BP加油站这种Making no sense 的事情。在零售价都是由批发价决定的。国际汽油的批发价又是由原油价格和精炼场生产能力等因素影响的， 这种东西不是一个，两个公司能决定的，是整个市场的交易结果。现在的批发油价涨是主要供应的紧张（价格越是涨，卖油的就越是收缩），以及几个主要需求的快速增长，中国印度就是主要增长点，不用说那些传统的用油大户，夸张一点现在已经到了到处抢油的地步。全场现在都是看涨，挡都挡不住，原油130一桶都不能说是贵了，市场决定了这就是价钱。

零售层面上，加油站进的油都是汽油批发的价钱，margin基本都是差不多的，该涨得时候都得涨，挺不了太久，还有谁能比别的加油站拿油便宜么。抵制bp的零售站点根本没有意义。

说的不对的地方，大家指正。

[ 本帖最后由 Garywind 于 2008-5-23 15:45 编辑 ]

Garywind

顺便再啰嗦一句, 在国际市场上，bp和这几个主要的石油公司赚钱也不是没有理由的。他们花大把钱在硬件上（到处刨坑，建精炼站，油管），油价高低他们都是赚钱的，就是多少的问题。

指望世界油价降回几年前的水平已经很难了，短期上的确有些炒作的成分，问题是大把得闲钱流进来，都是看涨不是没有道理（专业投资者的智商都不低）。前面的朋友说得很对，这种东西不是大米，年年能种，是越来越少，价格上升是挡不住的。

现在油价节节涨说白了就是-- 这就是21世纪。 每个人都有开v8的时代已经过去了，准备好开电池车，或者地铁等公共交通工具， get used to it mate.

[ 本帖最后由 Garywind 于 2008-5-23 00:31 编辑 ]

胡思≮乱想

怎么不怪美国到处打仗消耗原油储备呢..

我早就觉得BP涨最快但是其他家也是马上follow,,记得前一阵听newstalkZB就讨论过 要加油站公开他们的涨价计划 比如在涨到20006前他们应该提前公开报告 油价下周要涨 为什么要涨
blahblah之类的...洋人们也觉的忽然就涨也很无奈吧

BTW 我从来就去shell加油 bp万不得已才去..
        我也不喝coke.....

ilanjack

從改變駕車習慣開始吧。油門能輕踩則輕踩，能不怠速就不怠速。還有換台小車吧，這兩點會比較實際點。希望不要到最後連小車都開不起，換成摩托車跟腳踏車了…

AndrewAUT

原帖由 走路的石头 于 2008-5-24 15:21 发表
bp 又贵， 跑得公里数又少！！！

这是我们当初送披萨的时候总结出来的！
所以我们知道的送过披萨的没有一个用bp!

这个绝对同意，我原来也送了2年的PIZZA。
BP的油的确有问题，跑的公里数少。
所以一直都是用的CALTAX的

麻皮小蘑菇

原帖由 向后看的鱼 于 2008-5-19 23:04 发表
记得有人说过BP makes 45%+ profit。。。

但汽油是非弹性商品，怎么样都要用。。。。。还是Nissan March 1.0比较实际了。。。。

这不是在说我的车吗..........

machreeblue

现在countdown woolworth foodtown搞活动，买 40送 4 cent的discount voucher， 买80送10 cent的， 买150送 15cent的。只限在shell加油，一张15cent的优惠券可以在加满油箱的基础上，1.8 L的车，加40升可以省去6块多。

一次可能觉得无所谓，架不住累积。。。

所以还是一如既往的加shell。不仅仅是因为油的质量还因为有full service。

[ 本帖最后由 machreeblue 于 2008-5-25 11:21 编辑 ]

果凍☆布丁

原帖由 machreeblue 于 2008-5-25 11:20 发表
现在countdown woolworth foodtown搞活动，买 40送 4 cent的discount voucher， 买80送10 cent的， 买150送 15cent的。只限在shell加油，一张15cent的优惠券可以在加满油箱的基础上，1.8 L的车，加40升可以省去 ...

pak n save也有類似的活動了。。

sunmarty

some are using SHELL

古灵精怪

很久不去BP了。没油也要绕过BP。
一般都去SHELL或是GULL。早就发现BP是最快涨价的一个。
我是平民，没有那么多钱，所以只能找便宜的油加。

Luffy

it's not gonna work

发条橙

naive naive naive

太公望

很为难， 因为我策划的产品是省油的， 油价越高越好卖。

Alpha

个人觉得, 面对油价的上涨, 任何举动都是无力的, 也许油价会小范围回落, 但是无法阻挡持续上涨的大趋势.

唯一能做的, 比较现实的,就是换省油的车, 但是最重要的, 就是多赚钱, 让自己的财富增长的比油价快, 虽然这很难, 但是我敢肯定, 即使油价涨到$3, 大街上的车也不会少, 而且大排量的好车, 新车会越来越多.

sushuo

为啥我之前发的一样的帖子被删了，这个却被高亮了呢？

太公望

我对这个ideal抱有不同的观点， 从大体上看， 石油是一个有限的资源， 人类应该学会如何减少对他的依赖，并且保护大自然。 从这个成面上看，如果石油涨价能够让大家减少对石油的消耗，对地球是一件好事，对人类也是好事。 如果汽油降到1分钱一升， 大家都高兴啦， 但是不久你就会发现有钱都买不到石油。 所以节省用油，开发新能源，才是有智慧的长远之计。

z-score

你好久没来了。