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trdeyoualbert

漂泊 发表于 2019-8-30 16:13
嗯 也是在论坛看了软广告去的 然后费用超了不说 问题是非正式矫正牙医执照 收费可是不含糊 索性老二扔给 ...

人家现在主力发展中国老人假牙市场

反正啥都做

笑看人生 ^O^

trdeyoualbert 发表于 2019-8-30 20:41
人家现在主力发展中国老人假牙市场

反正啥都做

你确定假牙市场大哦~~~
肠粉兄拉我一把~~齐齐造假

                                       



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Esipan

本来他就是呀，没什么意外

帖子被解禁了，希望更多人能认清这个虚伪牙医的另一面。抵制xxxxx dental +11111111，不过这家还是有一些不错的牙医，不能一棒子打死所有。毕竟这个人是个人行为

LovingJiyeon

前几年去香港讲普通话都被无视，讲英文服务态度才好一些。去年又去了一次，感觉好像比之前好了一些。
现在想想他们好会伪装，知道不能给金主甩脸子

jackylam

我已經很久沒有回來Skykiwi, 有人告訴我這個， 要抹黑我，明人不做暗事！我有權利和責任聲明我的立場，因為與事實不符。 我今天還要上班，我盡力分段回應每一個Post，我從不寄望FML有理性的分析和討論， 但希望路過的，有獨立思想能力的人，可以明白理解我個人的看法立場，

1. 我是香港人， 中國香港人
2. 我是生於1972， 港英年代
3. 1990 已經移民新西蘭
4. 我太太是上海人， 中國上海人
5. 我47年人生到現在， 沒去過英國和歐洲，到美國2times, 去中國各大地方無限趟。。。。。。
6. 我不是港獨 - （港獨是希望香港獨立與中國分裂）， 我在結婚之前後也沒有支持過香港獨立
7. 現在香港問題，生為一個香港人，我當然有我的看法， 我希望大家明白道理的人 ， 可以理解一個中國香港人的看法。
8. 無理的指控我歧視印度人，希望匿名朋友提供證據， 因為新西蘭並不accept歧視

我拼音打得很慢，我已經用45分鐘打了以上的。。。。。。。麻煩大家包容一下我的速度。。。。。。。。。。

jackylam

這是我和圖一的朋友的對話
圖的 order 反了。。。。。。 please read from last photo and backward.

jackylam

香港人的訴求，是沒有要港獨的。。。。。 我相信大部香港人，也包括我，也沒有要香港獨立。  

翁塞

FoodCritics 发表于 2019-8-31 09:31
牙佬你不用证明什么的 你有权去相信你认为正确的事情 如果真有人为了别人的信念去抵制你生意 那种人也不 ...

jackylam

香港可以分為
深藍 - support HK Government support police 100%
light blue - we just want a peaceful HK, so don't want protestors disrupt HK and affect economy
中立
light yellow - We also want a peaceful HK, 希望透過 和平 理性 非暴力 to 表達訴求， 不support 暴力 （這是我一直的立場）
黃 - in between light yellow and deep yellow.
深黃 - 大家看到的 勇武派， use violence at frontline and against Police.

However, to me.... all of the above group are HK police / Government Vs Citizen in HK,  Its not against China or One country Two system.

last one is - someone want HK goes down to get benefits, - 希望香港動亂的人，  they are different colour......
.  They are the ones who destroy national flags, make money from situation, US, etc.  

jackylam

我打英文比較快 。。。。。。

Colour changes  and citizen mood changes daily depends on what governement / Police / Media / News..... so i have friends who are yellow and change to blue..... i have friends from blue change to deep yellow......  

To me,  I still stand on my light yellow,  and i don't support all 5 訴求。。。。  i only support,  1. carrie lam must take full resposibility of the situation and resignation is a must for her, and 2, set up an independant investigation committee to review the whole thing and see who is behind for every crime, including US, Citizen, Governement, Police, News media. etc.   the other 3, i don't really care..... whether have 普選 or not, it doesn't worry me......

i feel pity for both good citizen, good police, good peaceful protestors, good governement officials.  but I am angry and will aganist violence, bad protestor, bad police, and bad chief executive.  

I believe in 法治， l believe Police has caught the guy who throw flag into the sea and also the people who hit china Press 付國豪， the court will reveal justice.

是我的立場。

jackylam

I am sorry, but i really need to go to work now......... I am late already...... but i will try to share my thoughts..... but if FML can allow me to explain myself latter in the day, that will be great!

yangranwu

没必要洗地了，就冲你朋友圈经常称呼大陆人为中国人自己是香港人，还有必要洗么？

jackylam

yangranwu 发表于 2019-8-31 10:01
没必要洗地了，就冲你朋友圈经常称呼大陆人为中国人自己是香港人，还有必要洗么？ ...

i m sorry.........  whenevver i ask any people who speak chinese..... i will ask, where are you from?  they will always say,  i am from shanghai, i am from beijing...... chinese talk to chinese always say which cities they are from! Hong Kong is part of China, like shen zhen wu han......  have you seen a shen zhen person talk to a wu han person and say, i am from china instead of i am from wu han?

jackylam

yangranwu 发表于 2019-8-31 10:01
没必要洗地了，就冲你朋友圈经常称呼大陆人为中国人自己是香港人，还有必要洗么？ ...

and why if you and others can say whatever you want to say here. Why can't I!

People can chooose to believe what they believe in..... I will never be able to make everyone believe my thoughts.... but at least i have my rights to tell everyone that's what i am thinking, what i believe in.  

If you don't believe it, thats very ok.  Thats democracy and you can choose what you want to support for. and I am not going to change your mind.   But i think i have my right to say what i believe in even i was born in HK!  

And i really think...... calling myself from HK,  its a fact and i think its a name not many hk people want to say in front of CYber brutatlity!  this is a name you guys all shame on, cause CHina is strong and hk is weak.... so what's wrong for us to call ourselve the weak person?  

翁塞

jackylam 发表于 2019-8-31 10:15
and why if you and others can say whatever you want to say here. Why can't I!

People can chooose t ...

"People can chooose to believe what they believe in..... I will never be able to make everyone believe my thoughts.... but at least i have my rights to tell everyone that's what i am thinking, what i believe in."

LovingJiyeon

jackylam 发表于 2019-8-31 10:15
and why if you and others can say whatever you want to say here. Why can't I!

People can chooose t ...

mr lam，如果有人问我们where are you from，我们都会说im from china。如果细问which city，我们才会说具体的城市名字。
其次我看到你发的聊天记录，有一条写着“不知道中国看不看得到”请问这里的中国你是指哪里呢？
你提到民众只是仇警，可你是否想过，警察是根据政府的指令去做事的。那仇警是否等于仇政府？这不是一种变相的分裂国家吗？
大部分香港人的内心深处，就是把香港和大陆分开的，大陆就是你们口中所谓的中国。这种洗脑式的思想已经根深蒂固在你们心里，只是你们意识不到又或者不愿意承认罢了。
还是少说两句吧，小心越描越黑

yangranwu

jackylam 发表于 2019-8-31 10:15
and why if you and others can say whatever you want to say here. Why can't I!

People can chooose t ...

nz是个言论自由的国家，你大可以宣传你的思想和言论，即使港独，最好也光明正大一些，不要怕耽误挣钱。

ilmaro

牙医老板已经表明了人生态度，他对国家，民族是有认同感的，也并不支持什么香港独立，没啥反华、辱国言论……我觉得没啥问题……

意识形态非一日养成，更非一言一语就能改变的……环境与教育造就人，这是客观性的现象……请大家给任何人都应有的包容度，好吗？

建议年轻人们同样要有修养，过犹不及啊……不要对他人进行无谓的人身攻击，也不必强求对方完全接受你的想法，保持十足的一致性……这不公平哈……

翁塞

ilmaro 发表于 2019-8-31 11:22
牙医老板已经表明了人生态度，他对国家，民族是有认同感的，也并不支持什么香港独立，没啥反华、误国言论 ...

理性

赞一个！

Esipan

不用洗啦，不要向人民币低头，大家也都能看到你的facebook和朋友圈，嘴上喊着不是港独，各种转发反共，黑警的新闻，对废青破坏绝口不提，有什么好洗的，新西兰是言论自由国家，要坚持自己的看法，大胆说出来，才会让人敬佩

yangranwu

Esipan 发表于 2019-8-31 11:33
不用洗啦，不要向人民币低头，大家也都能看到你的facebook和朋友圈，嘴上喊着不是港独，各种转发反共，黑警 ...

是的，就是这个意思，我们支持所有自由言论，不管台独港独藏独疆独，但不支持拿起筷子吃肉，放下筷子骂娘

Esipan

yangranwu 发表于 2019-8-31 11:41
是的，就是这个意思，我们支持所有自由言论，不管台独港独藏独疆独，但不支持拿起筷子吃肉，放下筷子骂娘 ...

对的，既然都来到新西兰了就应该包容各种言论，但是希望这位牙医有点Guts，不要赚着“大陆人”的钱，又干一些抹黑大陆的事情，新西兰人口这么多，不缺“大陆人”的市场，请坚持自己撑香港的立场。ps 大陆人都不叫自己大陆人

jackylam

yangranwu 发表于 2019-8-31 11:12
nz是个言论自由的国家，你大可以宣传你的思想和言论，即使港独，最好也光明正大一些，不要怕耽误挣钱。 ...

I have said what i have said and my view point.... please re-read and if you can't understand, i say it in english one more time...... I don't support or agree with Hong Kong independence.  I am against all violence, from both side, citizen and police. i support Police using reasonable force is right.... but a lot of people didn't see once protestor were caught, they have use unnecessary force against Protestor..... that's what i am against.

你大可以宣传你的思想和言论

i am here to defend myself and i am not trying to convince anyone to support HK anymore.  I have done and tried to make people understand every stories are two sided....... thats why HK citizens across light blue to light yellow,  most of them want an independent investigation committee to review the whole crazy summer and find out the truth.........  Arguments in any debate are always two sided.  I wish i can say one last time..... Hong Kong is always part of China and I don't support 港獨。。。。。。。In fact most Hong Kong People i know... ( at least around my age group , my family, friends) NONE of them support 港獨.  regarding this topic, i have made myself very clear......

最好也光明正大一些，不要怕耽误挣钱 -  I think i have made it very clear, i used my real name real account and told everyone my 立場。。。。 i believe i am using my skill and experience to treat every patient regardless their race, their stand points and whether they agree with me or not..... Health professional - both here and china and china hk,  we will treat people with our patients fairly and whole heartly and professionally,  We never force people to come to us...... we invested in all latest technology from Germany Cerec AC , 3D cone beam CT, and latest 5D iTero Scanner for invisalign treatment.......we grow from one clinic to 16 clinics now in nz.  I think we treat people right and provided a Fair service with a Fair Price, thats why we can grow to this scale.  Who doesn't need to work and who doesn't need to feed family?  Everyone works and try to find a living in NZ, and nz customers are from all kind of diversity including migrants from china as a whole.  I have declared my 立場 - 一個中國，不support 港獨，its up to every readers to make their judgement。

sorry, i wish i can explain more.... but i have a full day of surgery and i will try to reply in between patients.

翁塞

jackylam 发表于 2019-8-31 11:51
I have said what i have said and my view point.... please re-read and if you can't understand, i s ...

“i used my real name real account and told everyone my 立場”

在这个坛里，没有几个人做到了这一点，不少人甚至更是连网名都不愿让别人看到而匿名回复
而这些匿名者，反而还口口声声要别人“光明磊落”

直面异议

jackylam 发表于 2019-8-31 11:51
I have said what i have said and my view point.... please re-read and if you can't understand, i s ...

“People can chooose to believe what they believe in..... I will never be able to make everyone believe my thoughts.... but at least i have my rights to tell everyone that's what i am thinking, what i believe in.  “

把您的回复中的：I,用任何人来替代都是成立的。也包括FML中的人。

人们是用行为来判定对一个人的看法的，而不是语言！words are cheap!

借用“To be, or not to be: that is the question:”，在这件事上，如何回答这个question 是你的举动而非言辞！

回到你之前的话，你当然有权选择自己的想法和行动，这没有错误。只是所有的事都是有成本的。

民主和言论自由这些词好用不好做到。知易行难，
“I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It”

你不会不知道这个吧？

jackylam

LovingJiyeon 发表于 2019-8-31 10:42
mr lam，如果有人问我们where are you from，我们都会说im from china。如果细问which city，我们才会说 ...

i was saying on the basis we both chinese speaking mandarin,  anyway,  the main point about this post is for me to clarify once and for all and i will let FML to F whatever they want F and i get on M L.  

其次我看到你发的聊天记录，有一条写着“不知道中国看不看得到”请问这里的中国你是指哪里呢？

i wish you don't misunderstand me about this.... cause wechat has censorship.....  alot of news which might not come thru wechat if they think its sensitive, like 8964.  that's what i am trying to say......

大部分香港人的内心深处，就是把香港和大陆分开的，

i think we have to agree that there are 文化差異,  its not one or two generation can resolve this 内心深处。 but i don't agree [把香港和大陆分开的],  we have a border but from historical point of view or Factual handover at 1997, HK is part of china and its a fact and no one can deny it.  However文化差異 always will present...... even for me, who has come and lived in NZ for over 29 years (out of my 47) I always feel HK is my home..... NZ is always a strange and mix feeling.........and I eat chinese as many time as possible in nz and in fact i still favourite HK style food more than any other food.  I don't think its a 分开.....  i think HK people has accepted and modifying themselve gradually.....   it takes many generation..... but we are working on it.... so please be gentle on this issue....... =)

yangranwu

jackylam 发表于 2019-8-31 11:51
I have said what i have said and my view point.... please re-read and if you can't understand, i s ...

说这么多，还是把我们当傻瓜。是不是打着支持一个中国的旗号就可以为所欲为的宣传港独的行为？我们只是看到你平时在做什么不是你在这说什么？之前说被遣返内地途中的是你吧？我看你就是唯恐天下不乱，你的诊所要是在香港每天都被暴民捣乱看看你是否还支持？一个新西兰人在关心香港自由独立，看热闹不嫌事大也是够了

陌生的香港人

噢 這裡做牙醫的香港人很多 我聽過但不認識這位林醫生 只想說兩句


其實很多香港人對這件事情緒也是很複雜 這個林鄭政府確實夠爛了 但我不明白為什麼示威者會只衝著執法的警察甚至他們家人來罵 這本身就是莫名其妙的事 人家不過是執法而已  這只反映他們爭取所謂民主背後的幼稚 再說那些示威者自己也不是省油的燈 可我不認同上面說  “那仇警是否等于仇政府？这不是一种变相的分裂国家吗？”  這樣說太極端了吧？ 我只能說我不是黃也不是藍 只想以事論事

沒看過這位林牙醫的朋友圈/FB  不作評論

至於樓上有人說說自己是香港人就等於不認自己是中國人 - 這個我不認同  客觀歷史和事實是香港的確是和中國大陸各方面是很不同  就像台灣和中國大陸一樣  說自己是香港人 很多港英時代來的人都會這樣  但這不代表他們不承認自己是中國人 我也會和人說我 come from Hong Kong  （就好像我的網名） 但我絕對也會大聲和人說我是Chinese   兩者卻不是互相排斥  中港台實為一家人  當然如果有人愛上綱上線那也沒什麼好說了