封杀外国买家最新进展：政府再退让

NewLynnHse

auckland.clark 发表于 2018-6-19 20:57
买公寓基本是被忽悠的吧？

嘘。。。本来就是的嘛

bungyjumping999

People who think next month is not possible, might now becomes possible ( due to Labour coalition's pride)

1) Now is in 2nd reading

2) Actually apart from:
      a) 60% allowed for overseas buyers for off plan apartments buying, overseas people have to on-sell or rent out after the completion is going to put many people off. ( so, is almost good for nothing).

      b) redefining Ordinary resident ( which means Permanent Resident visa (PRV) and Resident Visa (RV) only), On top, they need to be tax resident in NZ and have lived 185 days in the last 12 months in NZ. This again does not make much different either, the only good thing for NZ government is if your income is from overseas (global income), you will be taxed in NZ rates and need to pay NZ IRD, because you declared yourself as NZ tax resident for the income year (so, this is a little trap they plant it in)

     c) Conveyancer certifying is changed to buyer's own statement. Nothing much really, the conveyancer will still need to make sure it is not "untrue in the ordinary course of looking at those documents", otherwise they (conveyancer) will attract civil penalty by OIO. If buyer lied about the information they provided in the Statement, they will risk been forced to sell by OIO if found out.

    d) Put singapore as an exception, same ranking as Australian. Again, just attract headline in the newspaper, nothing much really, singaporeans don't really like to come to nz except for holiday, they prefer Australia.

No bank is going to lend to overseas people as they are not sure whether the overseas people will commit wrong under the Act as a result risking banks' security, so naturally the credit will dry out except overseas Cash buyers for "off plan apartments" ( which i will say is just left over bones to please the developers).

haha...... look like it is full on as planned, and going to be a disruption to some industries.

GAME ON.

lianlian88

昨天radio里听到，其实澳大利亚人才是海外买家大军，真实呵呵了，这种东西就是一块小的不能再小的遮羞布了把

bungyjumping999

lianlian88 发表于 2018-6-20 09:19
昨天radio里听到，其实澳大利亚人才是海外买家大军，真实呵呵了，这种东西就是一块小的不能再小的遮羞布了 ...

i actually support this legislation to see the foolishness of this Government.
In the old days " The communist party ordered to shoot down the Sparrows and resulting more insects (蝗虫)  into the crops"

NewLynnHse

bungyjumping999 发表于 2018-6-20 09:38
i actually support this legislation to see the foolishness of this Government.
In the old days " Th ...

insects like 蝗虫？LOL

bungyjumping999

NewLynnHse 发表于 2018-6-20 10:01
insects like 蝗虫？LOL

The whole country will become wellfare  beneficiaries country....... the government will be wondering where are the sparrow?

天才

全球金融账户涉税信息自动交换制度将于2017年1月1日起在中国实施，且2018年9月中国将与世界上其他100个国家或地区（可能会更多）的政府进行经合组织（OECD)共同申报准则（Common Reporting Standard,即“CRS”）下的金融账户涉税信息的第一次自动交换。理论上来说，到2018年底，中国政府将掌握中国税收居民在除美国以外的其他100个国家或地区的金融账户信息。

lianlian88

bungyjumping999 发表于 2018-6-20 09:38
i actually support this legislation to see the foolishness of this Government.
In the old days " Th ...

"myopic and naive" are the brand mark of our current government.

NewLynnHse

pear 发表于 2018-6-19 17:58
没有啊，我从来不买公寓，也不住City。你失望了吧，限购令还是要实行的。 ...

嗯，是挺失望的，等了那么就还没实行

kaikai0831

不知道现在外国人可以自己买地建造新房吗？

lianlian88

yangauk 发表于 2018-6-19 18:20
看中介们那么紧张的样子 就知道实际海外买家比列远不止3%，所谓海外买家包括了已经在这里等洗白的学生签  ...

问题是囤房的，临时签还是少数，甚至貌似都没澳洲人多，所以我说这政策就是块透明的遮羞布

我真不是孙红雷

为什么不是国家买了给穷苦大众当公屋？工党真没人性，全是骗人的

jsmith2

這個所謂阻止海外買家買房的政策，只是選戰時的宣傳手法，現在用完了，政策便忘記它吧。

V7

难道只是我看不懂政策吗？
现在外国人只能买楼花，还不能自己住。这不是变严是什么？

boyis

新西兰 政府可以发行 国债，让海外的人来买，这样就有钱造房子了，房子造好了，再把国债一还，发财了。。。 同时人民也有房子住了。。。

傻

房奴甲

V7 发表于 2018-6-20 16:21
难道只是我看不懂政策吗？
现在外国人只能买楼花，还不能自己住。这不是变严是什么？ ...

是的，确实非常严了。我不知道那些去皇后镇什么地方住豪宅的有钱外国人以后如果只能租房他们会怎样。新西兰得罪得起这些人不。不过工党这些猪是不会在乎的，他们只要能当政，哪管国家成什么样子，再说，国家越穷，他们越能当选，因为有本事的人都走了，只剩下猪脑子和猪圈了。

红衣主教

目前在奥克兰皇后镇开发酒店公寓项目的是什么国家的人？感觉这个新政策是在帮开发商找接盘侠。

Feature

政府还应该修改一点，300万以上的房子海外买家不受限制，否则这些高端物业都指望本地人买吗？

bungyjumping999

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/ne ... 1&objectid=12075267

New development in the 2nd reading of Overseas Investment Amendment Bill :-

This development project (Te Arai property development near Mangawhai) selling $4 million per lot luxurious housing was initially exempted from the bill, meaning to say overseas people are allowed to buy the housing lots in this project.

National accused labour of favouratism (cronyism), helping their own friends by giving them exemption, now this exemption is cancelled, meaning can't sell to overseas buyers. This project is going to be in trouble as most buyers are overseas buyers with that kind of money.

Play with Fire..... now truly get burnt. haha.

房奴甲

Feature 发表于 2018-6-21 19:56
政府还应该修改一点，300万以上的房子海外买家不受限制，否则这些高端物业都指望本地人买吗？ ...

对，这个必须改，关系国家经济大事。

auckland.clark

房奴甲 发表于 2018-6-22 13:30
对，这个必须改，关系国家经济大事。

有这样房子的人，不会选工党的。工党不会为国家党的铁杆选民壮大队伍的。

我真不是孙红雷

V7 发表于 2018-6-20 16:21
难道只是我看不懂政策吗？
现在外国人只能买楼花，还不能自己住。这不是变严是什么？ ...

工党这是要毁了新西兰建立起的形象工程，买楼花。。。

V7

我真不是孙红雷 发表于 2018-6-23 06:19
工党这是要毁了新西兰建立起的形象工程，买楼花。。。

我是没有读懂政策啦，

求解：
是不是说没有住够183天的永居都算外国人？
是不是说外国人只能买公寓（如果开发商没有卖够60%给外国人）？
外国人可以买大地开发，一分二，一分多，但是不能居住，只能租，是吗？

bungyjumping999

V7 发表于 2018-6-23 11:33
我是没有读懂政策啦，

求解：

但是不能居住，只能養豬

V7

bungyjumping999 发表于 2018-6-23 19:59
但是不能居住，只能養豬

那外国人过来住，就只能租房呗。
自己买了房子给别人住，然后自己再租另外的房子住。
是这个意思吗？

bungyjumping999

https://www.interest.co.nz/news/ ... 8-likely-upwards-11

ASB came out to say, foreign buyers is more than 11% not 3% as claimed.

This will add fuel to the government to speed up the process.

bungyjumping999

https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/ ... 55/tab/video?page=2

This is David Parker's speech for 2nd reading.
- Residential land is NZ's birthright, it won't be shared with foreigners.

https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/bills-and-laws/bills-proposed-laws/document/BILL_75755/tab/video?page=1&mode=form
- National's Nick Smith made a good comment that the origin of this bill comes from Phil Twyford's Chinese sounding names.


2nd reading is now completed. Motion is set to become law.

newlifereal

感觉最终会雷声大，雨点小的无疾而终！