我就想问这个160到底是哪种

vozlin

chenkaihua 发表于 2016-10-11 17:21
前面那个有说如果有新西兰level7 以上学历就不用雅思了，但是160分这个条件太苛刻了。 ...

对于本科学历！或者雅思不是硬伤！对于专科学生！雅思就是让人恐惧的！

怪叔大狼

liu_yu_1980 发表于 2016-10-11 20:53
以前不需要雅思6.5？

以前可以用一年工作经验顶替雅思要求（如下），现在是必须有英语国家背景或雅思或本科学历以上


Prior to the 12 October change, immigration officers could also consider a variety of alternative pieces of evidence of English language ability in place of an IELTS score, including:

a recognised qualification where the medium of instruction was English
one year of skilled employment in New Zealand
other evidence that the applicant is a competent user of English (for example the country in which the applicant resides, the nature of their current or previous employment, whether members of the applicant’s family speak English).
In any case, an immigration officer could still require the applicant to provide an IELTS test.

SallyJiang

明天看selection结果就知道了~~

怪叔大狼

我稍微断章取义一下，
What are the changes?
From 12 October 2016 only EOIs with 160 points or more will be selected。

这里是说160 以下的没门。但是

the points threshold for automatic selection has been increased from 140 to 160 from 12 October 2016 (regardless of whether an applicant has a job offer)

又提到自动入选的分数从140提到160。
这是几个意思，160以下的没门还是只有自动入选分数有改动，随机入选还是照旧？

NZ_aquarius

vozlin 发表于 2016-10-11 16:26
对于本科学历！或者雅思不是硬伤！对于专科学生！雅思就是让人恐惧的！ ...

就算2年本科学历，移民官仍然有要雅思的权力

carol-sheng

AsiaTelkom 发表于 2016-10-11 15:40
必须160  Level 7 读一年的都不能免雅思，必须两年

就是说我如果读了3年diploma加半年degree这个level7 不能算？
因为我们学校就是读完diploma在读半年就算是degree了。

lei2015

liu_yu_1980 发表于 2016-10-11 21:07
不管你讀啥，移民局都有權要你考IELTS，特別是若你的雇主又不是洋人的情況，這個之前跟現在都沒變，所以 ...

新西兰语言这里就不合理， 加拿大英国人都要雅思只要你想移民，澳洲更是提高到4个7. 新西兰再不跟上来的移民都不好找工作。。  大学读半年语言就让学专业课，导致学了3年的本科毕业英语依然无法沟通的中国留学生不在少数。。。

NZ_aquarius

怪叔大狼 发表于 2016-10-11 20:40
我稍微断章取义一下，
What are the changes?
From 12 October 2016 only EOIs with 160 points or more wi ...

What was the situation before?

Previously, all EOIs were selected where the person had claimed:

140 points or more
100-139 points, where they claimed points for a New Zealand job offer
注意看第二条，过去过100分并且有job offer的人可以申请，再看看现在

Two changes to the Skilled Migrant Category have been announced:

the points threshold for automatic selection has been increased from 140 to 160 from 12 October 2016 (regardless of whether an applicant has a job offer)
the way applicants show evidence that they meet the minimum standard of English language is changing
根本没提过100分有job offer的情况，再看这句(regardless of whether an applicant has a job offer)

再看移民局提到不够160分怎么办
What should I do if I was planning to put an expression of interest in under the Skilled Migrant Category but I can’t meet the new points threshold?
If you cannot meet the new points threshold, we would not recommend that you submit an EOI as it is unlikely to be selected. You may wish to look at our other options for residency to find a category that is more suitable for your situation. To find out about other categories for applying for residence in New Zealand, explore residence options on our website.
人家不建议申请，因为不够160分不可能被选上。。。

所以结论是必须要160分才可以申请，而且必须拿出证据。。

SallyJiang

看来半夜鸡叫的政策是国际流行的~~

怪叔大狼

liu_yu_1980 发表于 2016-10-11 21:52
其實也沒變化多少啦。就算以前的政策，你工作滿一年，如果進得了洋人公司，工作都一年了，教你考6.5也是 ...

我很赞同你拉选票的看法，这个我一直预测会出某些限制移民规定来安慰大家拿选票。没想到这次也开始率选移民了。例如刷掉像我朋友这样的。我有一个阿根廷朋友，西厨的，英语很难拿到6.5，最终读了一年就毕业，然后跑去hawke bay 去做厨师拿pr了。靠的就是一年工作经验（洋人环境），现在他英语好了一些但是6.5可能还是有问题。单讲西厨，我觉得这种情况挺普遍的。刷掉了好把名额给有更高级学位的移民。

怪叔大狼

NZ_aquarius 发表于 2016-10-11 22:21
What was the situation before?

Previously, all EOIs were selected where the person had claimed:

谢谢了，我没看到最底下哈哈。

怪叔大狼

liu_yu_1980 发表于 2016-10-11 22:41
是的，Stuff.co.nz上面都討論了，這次卡的就是chef為代表的hospitality workers，優先要本科以上和技術工 ...

哈哈，刚修改补充你就提到stuff的讨论，我也去凑热闹

ry55

NZ_aquarius 发表于 2016-10-11 22:21
What was the situation before?

Previously, all EOIs were selected where the person had claimed:

没错，我也看了好几遍，从官方发布信息理解，确实是160 or more才会被选择了，说实话杀伤力巨大，影响一大批，尤其是商科读GD的，几乎必须离开奥克兰才有希望了。。。
貌似这个政策就是绞杀商科的，定位非常精准，其他技能类受影响，但还有办法。。。。

看看明天的选取结果吧，决定了政策的具体执行力度。。。。。

findcamel

liu_yu_1980 发表于 2016-10-11 20:55
我覺得本地的申請人對此恐慌言過其實，這個政策明眼人一下都看得出是為了卡海外無local job湊分數的申請 ...

在奥克兰有工作的还真不一定可以够160分，所以应该这次政策的目的是： 1. 限制没有工作的申请；2. 限制英语成绩不够的；3， 引导大家到奥克兰以外工作。

NZ_aquarius

findcamel 发表于 2016-10-11 21:56
在奥克兰有工作的还真不一定可以够160分，所以应该这次政策的目的是： 1. 限制没有工作的申请；2. 限制英 ...

我再加一条，很重要，4.限制单身狗，单身狗，如果有配偶加分，可以补齐那30分

julysummer

从INZ官网来看，只要160及以上的。英语要求如下，不能用工作经验抵扣了。

English language rules have changed
From 12 October 2016, the evidence you need to show you have a minimum standard of English under the Skilled Migrant Category has changed.

Under the new rules, you will need to provide one of the following for yourself, as the principal applicant, and each applicant aged 16 and above in your application:
An International English Language Testing System (IELTS) certificate score of 6.5 or more for yourself as principal applicant, or 5 for non-principal applicants, in the General or Academic module. IELTS certificates must be less than two years old.
Evidence of citizenship in Canada, Ireland, the United Kingdom (UK) or the United States of America (USA), and evidence of having spent at least five years working or studying in those countries, or in Australia or New Zealand.
Evidence of having a recognised qualification, which was gained in Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Ireland, the UK or the USA, that’s comparable to a New Zealand bachelor’s degree. The person who holds this qualification must have studied for at least two years in any of those countries to get that qualification.
Evidence of having a recognised qualification, which was gained in Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Ireland, the UK or the USA, that’s comparable to a postgraduate New Zealand qualification. The person who holds this qualification must have studied for at least one year in any of those countries to get that qualification.

findcamel

liu_yu_1980 发表于 2016-10-11 22:02
奧克蘭本科沒問題，我申請的時候是180分，你明白政策導向了吧。

这个和学的专业有关系吧，一般的话工作50，年龄30，学历50-70. 其他的分数就要再找了，都是有些麻烦的，没有以前申请那么简洁了。

怪叔大狼

NZ_aquarius 发表于 2016-10-11 23:00
我再加一条，很重要，4.限制单身狗，单身狗，如果有配偶加分，可以补齐那30分 ...

作为单身狗好伤心啊。要办pr的单身狗只有离开奥克兰了，有配偶的必须雅思都过关啦

findcamel

怪叔大狼 发表于 2016-10-11 22:10
作为单身狗好伤心啊。要办pr的单身狗只有离开奥克兰了，有配偶的必须雅思都过关啦 ...

所以有些人被迫离开奥克兰了

vozlin

liu_yu_1980 发表于 2016-10-12 07:46
這樣做是對的，NZ Herald已經登了馬上Auckland房價要降了

绝对支持奥克兰房价要降！
新政策下看总体移民总额较少5000人。能给房地产带来多少降温？
新政策下的确鼓励在奥克兰以外的地方工作，但是多少人拿到pr后继续在奥克兰以外定居？
新政刷下大批低学历人士！但是那些高品质种子一点不影响！该移民的还是移民！该买房还是买房
在配偶能有高学历好英文的情况下加分移民，加速了多少人结束单身狗的日子，共同奔向移民幸福！买房置业生孩子！一条龙！