在新西兰生孩子

NZyimin_new

luolixinyi 发表于 2013-1-9 21:42
我想想也觉得恐怖～如果想在新西兰剖腹，要去GP那开证明，听说不是那么容易拿得到～我妈生我的时候都差点 ...

果然是个落后的国家啊 感觉有点像第三世界了

NZyimin_new

MR2(SW20) 发表于 2013-1-9 23:23
您。。。是刚来吗？

不是啊  字数不够

萨米

luolixinyi 发表于 2013-1-9 22:42
我想想也觉得恐怖～如果想在新西兰剖腹，要去GP那开证明，听说不是那么容易拿得到～我妈生我的时候都差点 ...

该不该剖腹可以由专家决定的吧。如果专家认为你没必要剖腹，那也没必要了。

萨米

NZyimin_new 发表于 2013-1-10 11:10
果然是个落后的国家啊 感觉有点像第三世界了

第3世界国家的政府补贴国民生孩子？

pAtrick

NZyimin_new 发表于 2013-1-9 21:54
现在还有多少人是顺产啊

绝大部分都是顺产的

什么时候开始人类都不能顺产了？那怎么会有你的？

MR2(SW20)

NZyimin_new 发表于 2013-1-10 11:11
不是啊  字数不够

别听人说什么，你都信。。。水份很大的。１传来传去就成１００了。这样的事儿还少吗。

NZyimin_new

pAtrick 发表于 2013-1-10 10:18
绝大部分都是顺产的

什么时候开始人类都不能顺产了？那怎么会有你的？

我弟妹的小孩都是剖腹产的

NZyimin_new

MR2(SW20) 发表于 2013-1-10 10:27
别听人说什么，你都信。。。水份很大的。１传来传去就成１００了。这样的事儿还少吗。

不过新西兰的医生不够用，医院排队很久甚至几个月，这是真的吧？ 除非有自己的医生，去私人医院看病。

John.G

NZyimin_new 发表于 2013-1-11 10:23
不过新西兰的医生不够用，医院排队很久甚至几个月，这是真的吧？ 除非有自己的医生，去私人医院看病。

你可以买医疗保险啊。。。想啥时看就啥时看。。。

pAtrick

NZyimin_new 发表于 2013-1-11 10:22
我弟妹的小孩都是剖腹产的

你第妹的小孩能代表大部分人吗？

Flyzgal

luolixinyi 发表于 2013-1-9 22:42
我想想也觉得恐怖～如果想在新西兰剖腹，要去GP那开证明，听说不是那么容易拿得到～我妈生我的时候都差点 ...

直接请专家就可以剖腹啦。我请了专家，这个月底预产期。不过如果能顺的话，我还是愿意顺产。

fiesta

无过 发表于 2013-1-9 11:36
孩子回国生是不能直接拿NZ护照的

Yes, you can apply for NZ citizenship by descent. It will take up to 20 working days and cost $204.40.

Ring 0800 22 51 51 for more information.

love_3_month

Flyzgal 发表于 2013-1-11 10:50
直接请专家就可以剖腹啦。我请了专家，这个月底预产期。不过如果能顺的话，我还是愿意顺产。

对的，找了私立医生你可以要求剖腹，他会建议你顺还是剖，但最后是你决定。

不便宜，三千多，但回国生也要这么多

Flyzgal

love_3_month 发表于 2013-1-11 12:41
对的，找了私立医生你可以要求剖腹，他会建议你顺还是剖，但最后是你决定。

不便宜，三千多，但回国生 ...

要4500哦，整个孕期都由专家照顾。算下来还是比在中国生便宜啊。

ybbest

love_3_month 发表于 2013-1-11 12:41
对的，找了私立医生你可以要求剖腹，他会建议你顺还是剖，但最后是你决定。

不便宜，三千多，但回国生 ...

If you ever went to the Antenatal class , you will understand why in New Zealand people are encouraged to deliver you baby naturally.
The reason that c-section is so common in China and in some States in the U.S is simple because of $$$$$.
Although having a C-section might reduce your pain when you give birth to a baby , but in the long run it cause more pain and health-related problems. Man , you just had a major operation , what are the differences between having a C-section and having a major surgery ? Not much if you google it.

People makes you to believe that you can not give birth natually so they can make lots of money from you. They do not care about your health , what they care is how much money they can get from you. It is just sad.


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C-Section IntroductionCesarean delivery, also called c-section, is surgery to deliver a baby. The baby is taken out through the mother's abdomen. Most cesarean births result in healthy babies and mothers. But c-section is major surgery and carries risks. Healing also takes longer than with vaginal birth.

ybbest

This is the recommendation by WHO in 1985 , some of them might not apply but what it is still true now is :
Pregnancy is not a disease and birth is not an emergency.


Birth is a natural process.
The Forteleza Declaration Recommendations
Appropriate Technology for Birth We must note that very careful review of the knowledge of birth technology was studied and this  led to the adoption of these recommendations:

Birth is a natural process.
You have the right to proper prenatal care
You should have a central role in all aspects of this care and this includes participation in the planning, carrying out, and evaluation of said care.
Policies about appropriate birth technology should be implemented.  
You should be informed of the various procedures induction, IVs, episiotomy, c-section, epidural, etc -and their effect in order to enable you to choose  the type of  care  and birth you want.
  Your well-being - the new mother - must be ensured through free access   of a chosen member of your family during birth and throughout the postnatal period.
There is no justification for any place or country to have  a rate of c-section higher  than 10-15% - in the USAUnited States it is almost 33%!     If you choose to give birth in an institution - hospital    or birth center -     you must retain your rights to decide about:
      

clothing: when is the last time a hospital allowed you to wear what you wanted?,     food: when is the last time hospital policies allowed you to eat as you wished while in labor?    disposal of the placenta: were you given a choice?

            Your newborn must remain with you - the mother - whenever possible - no routine observation procedures justify the separation    of mother and baby.There is no evidence that "once a c-section always a c-section." Therefore vaginal deliveries after caesarean - VBAC - should  be encouraged. There is no evidence that routine fetal monitoring during labor has a positive effect on the outcome of your pregnancy and birth. Therefore you should have the right to declined to be monitored 24/7.Pubic shaving or pre-delivery enemas should be discarded since scientific evidence showed they are unnecessary procedures.You should not be put in a lithotomy position during labor or birth. Rather you should be encouraged to stay active and to birth in whatever position is most comfortable.Birth should never be induced for convenience but rather it should be reserved only if there is a  specific medical indications. The induction rate should not be over 10%.The routine administration of labor drugs should be avoided unless it is specifically required to correct or prevent a complication. Routine artificial early rupture of the membranes - AROM -  is not scientifically justified and can be detrimental. Breastfeeding should be promoted and encouraged.

So if your birth attendant does not adhere to the Fortelesa declaration - appropriate technology in birth - or worse if she/he has neverheard of it, you may want to consider finding a new attendant. Pregnancy is not a disease and birth is not an emergency.  YOU should be an activeparticipant in all aspect of your care not because you are "allowed" or by force because you are a "pushy mother" or "one of those" but simply because it is your God given RIGHT.
When all is said and done this is your pregnancy. The birth will be yours and that of your child's and something you will NEVER forget.If interventions are necessary - and they sometimes are - don't you want to KNOW that you have made all the right choices and therefore therecan be no regrets or what ifs. You - and your baby - deserve the right information and infallible support.

anzac_corp

mayamaya 发表于 2013-1-9 16:33
只要父母一方是新西兰公民的话，孩子出生在中国也可以直接申请新西兰的公民，直接拿新西兰护照。2个月左右 ...

这个父母遗传的公民，和在新西兰出生的公民，还是有一点小小的不同的。

wesleyinsyd

你在国内生的话，要去拿准生证什么的。生之前，医院会给你一套用具，麻烦XX 大洋。接着你要准备好红包，护士医生一个都不能少。生完之后，立刻会有街道办事处的大妈打电话给你，不是要恭喜你，而是要你去办结扎手术。那时，你最好先想好理由去应付他们。满月以后，你要开始给孩子打这样的那样的防疫针，每针麻烦XX大洋。而在纽西兰，上面的，全都不需要。好好比较一下。。。

hungugu

luolixinyi 发表于 2013-1-9 22:42
我想想也觉得恐怖～如果想在新西兰剖腹，要去GP那开证明，听说不是那么容易拿得到～我妈生我的时候都差点 ...

不要以讹传讹。。。。等你生得那天假如难产，医生会决定立马帮你剖腹的。哪儿还有时间去找GP开证明啊……

hungugu

NZyimin_new 发表于 2013-1-10 11:10
果然是个落后的国家啊 感觉有点像第三世界了

其实确实是的……纽西兰确实是个很落后很落后的国家，鼓吹顺产和什么母乳喂养。中国就科学多了，有高科技人工营养奶粉和让产妇自己选择吉日剖腹的服务。

强烈建议你回中国享受先进科学的制度……包括医疗。

wesleyinsyd

hungugu 发表于 2013-1-11 17:32
其实确实是的……纽西兰确实是个很落后很落后的国家，鼓吹顺产和什么母乳喂养。中国就科学多了，有高科技 ...

是呀，记得要准备红包若干。还记得网上有个新闻说深圳有个产妇因为家人没把红包给护工，结果那护工把产妇的屁股缝起来了。。。。

NZyimin_new

pAtrick 发表于 2013-1-11 09:29
你第妹的小孩能代表大部分人吗？

这个也是看自愿吧 国内很少有人顺产了

NZyimin_new

wesleyinsyd 发表于 2013-1-11 17:01
你在国内生的话，要去拿准生证什么的。生之前，医院会给你一套用具，麻烦XX 大洋。接着你要准备好红包，护士 ...

我还是喜欢小孩子打防疫针的 很多病得了的话没办法治的

NZyimin_new

医疗归医疗，感觉他们这边的人挺不拿自己的身体当回事的。 四十多岁的女人脖子，胳膊上晒的全是斑点。那皮肤真是要不得啊。 我肯定不会晒自己成那样子的。到五十多也得把皮肤保养的好好的。

NZyimin_new

Flyzgal 发表于 2013-1-11 13:42
要4500哦，整个孕期都由专家照顾。算下来还是比在中国生便宜啊。

价格就不要考虑那么多啦 安全是第一啊 有人好好照顾你是最主要的

我有一个超级低级的问题，顺产的话会不会对自己的身体以及产后的生活有影响，毕竟是那么大的一个孩子。我是说夫妻生活

NZyimin_new

自然分娩的妈妈，因为胎儿是经过阴道娩出，一般出生的婴儿头部的直径约有10厘米，即分娩时阴道要扩张到10厘米(正常阴道直径为2.5厘米)，经过出生孩子的挤压，阴道扩张明显，肌肉和处女膜痕受到彻底破坏，弹性明显下降。但尽管从阴道分娩胎儿的妈妈阴道发生了变化，会出现不同程度的阴道松弛现象。但并不代表自然分娩就是导致阴道松弛的罪魁祸首，因为妈妈在临产时盆腔的肌肉和韧带都会充分延伸，为宝宝的出生做好产道准备。所以即使进行剖宫产的妈妈，其阴道也会有松弛现象。

ann-james

有钱回去生，没钱在这里生！

NZyimin_new

最好还是做好检查，能顺的顺，不能顺产的就直接选择剖腹产了。很多人生到一半又生不出来，最好还是剖腹产。

香辣炸酱面

NZyimin_new 发表于 2013-1-10 11:10
果然是个落后的国家啊 感觉有点像第三世界了

第三世界国家啥概念 你知道不
这里第三世界 养不起你这条大鱼
你快去第一世界吧