大学留校容易吗

z-score

原帖由 missmia 于 2009-7-29 15:19 发表


嘿嘿不说了,说多了就泄露了...

不过听说人家真的学术上很厉害的.

刚开始我还以为是LJM呢。

bigbear

why stay at uni? come out and find a job.

missmia

原帖由 z-score 于 2009-7-29 15:21 发表


刚开始我还以为是LJM呢。

他算是成功的案例吧。

smiles

原帖由 missmia 于 2009-7-29 15:18 发表


我知道一个PHD当receptionist,还有一个毕业了找不到工作,去找导师,结果吵了一架.因为他想让导师给他开假的助教证明.

我觉得还是看个人,有的人为了research而research,有的人为了生活而"research",境遇就是会很 ...

In NZ, it is not good to do industry related research, NZ has no industry. look at FPA, AIR NZ..
But in NZ it is good to do environmental related research, we have large clients like Zespri, fonterre, carter hort harvey and et al...

smiles

原帖由 z-score 于 2009-7-29 15:21 发表


刚开始我还以为是LJM呢。

missmia

原帖由 smiles 于 2009-7-29 15:23 发表



In NZ, it is not good to do industry related research, NZ has no industry. look at FPA, AIR NZ..
But in NZ it is good to do environmental related research, we have large clients like Zespri, fo ...

是的是的。或者象萨米这样的。也很不错。

楼主可以试试新加坡的大学。。

z-score

原帖由 smiles 于 2009-7-29 15:23 发表



In NZ, it is not good to do industry related research, NZ has no industry. look at FPA, AIR NZ..
But in NZ it is good to do environmental related research, we have large clients like Zespri, fo ...

Yes yes, agree, so in conclusion, just add Bio as a prefix on your proposal, your chance of success will increase.

z-score

原帖由 missmia 于 2009-7-29 15:25 发表


是的是的。或者象萨米这样的。也很不错。

楼主可以试试新加坡的大学。。

据说萨米在奥大很强大。有人和我说当年萨米在奥大统计系的级别很老大，厉害的都可以倒把垂杨柳了。

since

一句话， 能找到工作谁要读ｐｏｓｔｄｏｃ??

现在这阶段留校非常不容易。 ｐｈｄ最理想的出路是大公司的Ｒ&Ｄ　ｄｅｐｔ.　实在不行再考虑ｐｏｓｔｄｏｃ

smiles

原帖由 since 于 2009-7-29 15:28 发表
一句话， 能找到工作谁要读ｐｏｓｔｄｏｃ??

现在这阶段留校非常不容易。 ｐｈｄ最理想的出路是大公司的Ｒ&Ｄ　ｄｅｐｔ.　实在不行再考虑ｐｏｓｔｄｏｃ

no. honestly, the one who can stay in uni would not stay in R&D. Trust me.

Unless you are the boss of the R&D company.

missmia

Industry和校园里接触到的东西很不同。这个就要看毕业生自己愿意在什么样的环境中锻炼了。

z-score

原帖由 smiles 于 2009-7-29 15:29 发表




no. honestly, the one who can stay in uni would not stay in R&D. Trust me.

Unless you are the boss of the R&D company.

En, they are completely different types of jobs.

Lots of people stay at university because they think they can do a better job there.

Dachshund

Academic position: post-doc or general position: Technician  

Depends on your supervisor, if he needs someone urgently , he will hire you if you are just a undergrad....like me.....

z-score

原帖由 Dachshund 于 2009-7-29 15:41 发表
Academic position: post-doc or general position: Technician  

Depends on your supervisor, if he needs someone urgently , he will hire you if you are just a undergrad....like me.....

I'm in the same position as you.

Dachshund

is your position long-term or short-term? Mine is just short-term .....

z-score

I was given a 3 year fixed term contract. I finish at the end of this year. I'm going as far away as possible from a university.

走两步

5篇如果都是peer review的话，工程类是很强了。换个好地方作postdoc，如果有教学经验，几年后可能可以做academic

z-score

原帖由 走两步 于 2009-7-29 15:49 发表
5篇如果都是peer review的话，工程类是很强了。换个好地方作postdoc，如果有教学经验，几年后可能可以做academic

Peer review is so hard...................................................

走两步

原帖由 smiles 于 2009-7-29 15:29 发表




no. honestly, the one who can stay in uni would not stay in R&D. Trust me.

Unless you are the boss of the R&D company.

其实我觉得公司比较好，学校很少做产品

走两步

原帖由 z-score 于 2009-7-29 15:51 发表


Peer review is so hard...................................................

这才值钱阿

pAtrick

读书无用论者路过

走两步

原帖由 z-score 于 2009-7-29 15:27 发表


据说萨米在奥大很强大。有人和我说当年萨米在奥大统计系的级别很老大，厉害的都可以倒把垂杨柳了。

z-score

原帖由 走两步 于 2009-7-29 15:51 发表


这才值钱阿

True, 我们这里的老头写了一张paper, 我是third author. Paper是2008年6月写好的,到现在一支还在peer review.

牧师

留校做什么~我可真的不想再留在这个地方了

花天堂

被當了很多就可以留校了啊.

我就是這樣的... 呵呵

Dachshund

If he get a position in the teaching lab, well, there might be 2 vacations per year, but generally speaking, there is no vacation for most of the uni staff....

Dachshund

Sick of Uni? Yea, I feel the same......

jojoo

up...............................

荒岛余生

楼主压根不要想留校了，特别是奥大工程学院。奥大工程学院本来中国人就多，学校招人时候也考虑平衡的，所以面上不讲，私下如果中国人想留校，要比kiwi优秀一倍。纽西兰又穷，所有没有纯研究教职，都要教课，所以英文还要和kiwi拼，也难胜出。如果想留校，那么就要考虑去海外做研究，然后将来曲线救国了。或者去工业界混，但是在工业界，千万别把自己当博士，实话讲，博士和硕士比，也就是多做两年研究而已，在公司，人家都研究了N年了，刚上手的博士有啥用哪？如果自视太高，活不旺的。至于纽西兰的工业界，实话说，FPA，FONTERRA，和AIR NZ都没见过博士，可能接触面不够宽。。。