为了流行传染病被控制住而牺牲很小一部分人的生命是值得的

留学研究生

https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/safety-report-31.asp
Madsafe数据到今天为止打完疫苗之后死亡的人已经86个了，我两周前看还是75个，当然这个和注射疫苗无关，只不过正好在打完疫苗之后人的寿命也到了，属于巧合事件，所以不必大规模报道，而且牺牲一小部分人来控制传染病也是值得的，不必自己骗自己，

Clark1129

支持，你赶紧献祭自己吧

熊孩子

累不累一天天的？

carrier29

当然值得，只要牺牲的不是自己就行

yakitori

请先翻阅楼主之前一贴。也没啥可说的了

http://bbs.skykiwi.com/forum.php ... &extra=page%3D1

pure-white

再看看连接中打完疫苗的心肌炎和心梗的一百多人，简直无语

acrobat

Summary of reported deaths                        Up to and including 2 October 2021, a total of 86 deaths were reported to CARM after                         the administration of the Comirnaty vaccine. Following medical assessments by CARM and                         Medsafe it has been determined that:
                       

• 31 of these deaths are unlikely related to the COVID-19 vaccine
• 26 deaths could not be assessed due to insufficient information
• 28 cases are still under investigation.
• 1 death was likely due to vaccine induced myocarditis (awaiting Coroner’s                                 determination)
  

                        By chance, some people will experience new illnesses or die from a pre-existing                         condition shortly after vaccination, especially if they are elderly. Therefore, part of                         our review process includes comparing                         natural death rates                         to observed death rates following vaccination, to determine if there are any specific                         trends or patterns that might indicate a vaccine safety concern. See below for more                         information about these observed-versus-expected analyses.
                        To date, the observed number of deaths reported after vaccination is actually less                         than the expected number of natural deaths.
                        Mortalities by age group up to and including 2 October 2021 reported to CARM                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

Age

                                                Mortalities                                       
                                                                        10 - 29 years                                       

1

                               
                                        30 - 59 years                                       

13

                               
                                        60 - 79 years                                       

42

                               
80+ years

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包不同

今天才听到的，一个诊所平均每周诊断几个疫苗引起的心肌炎， 打疫苗为人为己没问题， 但这些东西没有让公众知道就不妥， 有故意隐瞒的嫌疑

bintoo

道路上交通意外平均每天死一个人，好像也没把你吓到不敢出门开车吧

新冠比起疫苗高上万倍的死亡率，千奇百怪的后遗症，好像也吓不倒你哦。

pure-white

包不同 发表于 2021-10-22 16:01
今天才听到的，一个诊所平均每周诊断几个疫苗引起的心肌炎， 打疫苗为人为己没问题， 但这些东西没有让公众 ...

10月2号官方统计就有心肌炎118名，血栓84，我一个朋友心梗急救车拉去了医院，另一个的妈妈中风，但是医生认为和疫苗无关。

Quad

包不同 发表于 2021-10-22 16:01
今天才听到的，一个诊所平均每周诊断几个疫苗引起的心肌炎， 打疫苗为人为己没问题， 但这些东西没有让公众 ...

这挺严重的， 有数据吗？？

Quad

就问你怕不怕            

Quad

If you’re not yet vaccinated, if you’re still weighing up the risks vs. benefits, then this is to you.

186 beds.
186 staffed adult and paediatric ICU beds.
That is all we have in NZ.

The “surge capacity” you hear about involves crisis staffing. Stopping elective surgeries. It involves a significant reduction in the quality of healthcare available to you, for any illness or injury you may have.

The 1400 extra nurses “trained” to staff this surge capacity?
Their training was a 4 hour online training module and 4 hour simulation skills session.

For reference, a normal orientation period for an ICU nurse is between 216-240 hours over 6 weeks.
This allows them to look after a ‘straight forward’ ICU patient safely without direct supervision from a preceptor.

So a scenario: those ICU beds I mentioned? They’re already at least half full of patients right now.

Maybe your immune system lives up to your expectations and you get through covid ok. But not everyone will. Those beds fill up.
Surge capacity kicks in.

What happens if you get appendicitis? What happens if your appendix ruptures while you’re waiting 6 hours for an ambulance because they’re overwhelmed with calls?
What happens when you get sepsis while waiting hours for your surgery because most of the operating theatres have been converted to use as ICU beds?
What happens when you need an ICU bed, but the bed you get is in the corner of a post anaesthetic care unit with a nurse looking after you who has never seen the inside of an ICU?

They’ll do their best. We all will.
But will it be enough?

Read the scenario again, but imagine it’s your child. Your husband, or wife.
Your mother/brother/father/sister/aunty/uncle/best friend.

If you are unsure, if you are still weighing up the risks and benefits, make sure you are getting your information from validated sources providing you with evidence based information to base your decision on.

Because while everyone is wondering how many people they will be able to have over for Christmas this year, our intensive care teams are wondering how they will possibly care for the amount of patients coming to spend Christmas with them.

Unless ** We ** Vaccinate **

*COPIED*

pure-white

一些打了辉瑞毒药的智商有限，人家根本就是慢慢的善意提醒，你们跑来网爆，人家不是反疫苗，人家反的是不透明的毒药政策来作为单一压制covid的政绩工具，你们就是活生生的临床试验悲剧产物，有什么好说的呢？
等待新的疫苗有错吗？无知愚蠢又可恶可悲，估计后悔了来不及了

包不同

Quad 发表于 2021-10-22 16:34
这挺严重的， 有数据吗？？

楼上有， 还不一定是完整的，因为很多都会说没有关系， 我并不反对疫苗， 但觉得政府为了快点达标有故意淡化这些案例的嫌疑， 以这个数字来说根本就不是他们说的非常罕见的副作用， 难怪有些医生宁愿不干也不打

包不同

pure-white 发表于 2021-10-22 16:31
10月2号官方统计就有心肌炎118名，血栓84，我一个朋友心梗急救车拉去了医院，另一个的妈妈中风，但是医生 ...

希望最后不要因疫苗死的比病毒死的多

pure-white

包不同 发表于 2021-10-22 17:05
希望最后不要因疫苗死的比病毒死的多

现在我在阿登facebook下看就一堆人说她删帖上百，那些投诉家属疫苗死亡而不允许报道的，我真心觉得这个无知无能邪恶的打针政府更邪恶

lodn

不想赔偿，所以说和播种没有关系，不过就是赔偿，在岛上最多赔偿几千或1万的了事

lodn

pure-white 发表于 2021-10-22 16:31
10月2号官方统计就有心肌炎118名，血栓84，我一个朋友心梗急救车拉去了医院，另一个的妈妈中风，但是医生 ...

医生谁都不能敢说有关， 不然抓他去牢房

pure-white

lodn 发表于 2021-10-22 17:21
医生谁都不能敢说有关， 不然抓他去牢房

madsafe govt nz网站截止到两周前就有统计一百多心梗，绝了，死亡人数86

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Clark1129 发表于 2021-10-22 15:35
支持，你赶紧献祭自己吧

你们为什么不Xxxx 你们应该Xxxx。

yakitori

疫苗打了快4，000，000人了，有几十个或100多个副作用案例，So What?

很明显，就那几位换着ID来找毛病，路数都一样，话也一样。

今天心肌炎，身边的人这个那个了，昨天死亡数高过染病死的了，前天种芯片了，大前天2八论+资本运作，还要死的体面了。

你不打就不打吧，别像个老娘们BBBBBBB，反正华人10个人只有1个没接种，无所谓啦。我身边要是认识那1个，就别来往了，认知差别太大了。

今天广播，所有新西兰染病的，接种过疫苗的只有3%，没接种的 97%。 入院的接种的1.7%，没接种的98.3%。

过几周就红灯了，没打的就家里待着吧，挺好的。

Quad

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

More Than 6.79 Billion Shots
Given: Covid-19 Tracker
In the U.S., 411 million doses have been administered
Updated: 22 October 2021, 16:34 GMT+13
Vaccine Tracker
Global
U.S.
U.S. Vaccine Demographics
FAQ
Covid-19 Tracker
The biggest vaccination campaign in history is underway. More than 6.79 billion doses have been administered across 184 countries, according to data collected by Bloomberg. The latest rate was roughly 27.8 million doses a day.

In the U.S., 411 million doses have been given so far. In the last week, an average of 796,383 doses per day were administered.

World Map of Vaccinations
More than 6.79 billion doses have been administered—enough to fully vaccinate 44.2% of the global population

Quad

这么看起来打疫苗就算是人类清除计划， 机会留给没打疫苗的 毛利， 岛民， 黑人， 和 千千万万打不起疫苗的受苦受难的广大 不发达的第三世界， 加上 战斗民族了呗。看来后 covid 19 时代的 霸主一定是伟大的非洲人民。

  

royearth

pure-white 发表于 2021-10-22 17:23
madsafe govt nz网站截止到两周前就有统计一百多心梗，绝了，死亡人数86

轮子你好。 我想问一下你是女轮子还是男轮子。
根据nzta.govt 2020年有247人遭遇了车祸死在了路上。 我劝你距离马路远点。 小心天有不测风云

royearth

pure-white 发表于 2021-10-22 18:59
你有什么毛病啊？不允许讨论新的疫苗制剂？你是多闲？回去操你老母一顿呗 ...

我有什么毛病 你给了个政府链接 说打疫苗死亡人数74
同样我给出政府链接 车祸死亡254 按照你的逻辑 开车明显更危险

Quad

pure-white 发表于 2021-10-22 18:56
what the f k you tell me what jab I should have?? you mother fkers all got heart attack in 2-3 years ...

哈哈哈。。。。。。。               

pure-white

royearth 发表于 2021-10-22 19:01
我有什么毛病 你给了个政府链接 说打疫苗死亡人数74
同样我给出政府链接 车祸死亡254 按照你的逻辑 开车 ...

我看的数据还不是74！86例，还不包含不允许上报的懂吗？？一个药不成熟就去推广，会给人类带来多大的危害？？？？未知的风险才是真正的风险，你也许有机会感染病毒，但是未必会死，搞不好病一星期就好了，你身体淋巴摄入未知风险物体，谁能保证你的健康？？？？你以为政府会帮你吗？他们只负责90成打针，完成免责！！！