Easy to get a same role in Australia with higher pay?

eason？

挣得多 房租日用也不低吧

萨米

liu_yu_1980 发表于 2016-6-13 08:13
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Australia&city1=Brisbane&country2 ...

布里斯本机会有悉尼多吗

萨米

liu_yu_1980 发表于 2016-6-13 09:13
Hay, it's the comparison with Auckland not Sydney.

因为奥克兰比nz其他城市机会多，造成了奥克兰如此境地。

如果布里斯本机会甚至没有奥克兰多，那么这个比较就没有意义了。

我也不知道你是什么职业，反正我的职业看来，QLD机会没有奥克兰多。但是悉尼就多的多。当然悉尼也有呵呵的房价。

萨米

liu_yu_1980 发表于 2016-6-13 13:29
I'm doing electronics/embedded, with very few choices in Auckland.

There's no doubt Sydney has th ...

如果能在BRN这种地方找到合适自己工作的话，挪去那也是极好的

117wik

Career opportunities - Australia way better than NZ (way more multinational companies that have a presence in Aust rather than NZ).

Salary wise - typically for same job title, Melbourne and Sydney pay $20k more than AKL.

Ability to save money - it's probably equal, more pay in Mel/Syd, more places to spend money, and higher living cost too.

Raising a family - i prefer NZ rather than Aust, don't wanna raise a family in a country where there are poisonous snakes/spiders everywhere.

In terms of personal achievement, i suppose the saying that "gold will shine no matter where you go" is right? Quite often there's a ceiling working as technical SME, if you are willing to get to the next level, it takes time to establish reputation and relationship within the same company/industry. My current package is already higher than what an Australia company will pay for my title and i did it in NZ (mainly because there's a huge shortage of people like myself in NZ that can do what i can).

ybbest

liu_yu_1980 发表于 2016-6-15 09:10
One remarkable thing is Auckland's housing price is at the level of Sydney/Melboune, but weak in any ...

你去了澳洲，难道就没有人在炒房了吗？我觉得你现在的想法又点偏激，即便你去澳洲的工资真的高了很多，可是如果你不去想办法节省开支，去做一些个人的理财规划和投资，仅仅工资往上涨一些，你的生活质量还是不会提高的。
如果你去了澳洲，工资涨了30% ，你如果和我们在Auckland生活的人比可能会觉得有优越感。可是你毕竟在澳洲生活了，你发现你的工资，还是很周边的人差不多，也就没有什么优越感了。你的工资已经达到了6位数了，想你说的在往上升就不容易了。 所以我觉得你现在应该静下心来，分析一下怎么才能挣更多的钱。我觉得最简单的办法，就是跳槽或者去其它工资更高的国家。 可是从长远来看，找一家有发展潜力的公司，公司给你能提供足够的职业发展空间，肯花钱在你身上培养你。而你也可以静下心来踏踏实实的工作，慢慢的去往公司更高的职位奋斗，才是更加明知的选择。

还有不要怨天尤人，总觉得自己的处境都是别人的错误。如果你也想挣更多的钱，那就往更高的职位发展，踏踏实实在一个公司做一段时间。如果你觉得投资房产的人都赚钱了，那你为什么不花时间了解一下，论坛里那么多专家，人家赚钱也是付出了很多努力的，不是你想的买房那么简单。如果你想让你太太出去工作，和你太太去谈谈，她可能也很像工作只不过她可能不想工作的理由是她觉得找不到一个好的工作。你可以帮你太太找找，看看有什么工作合适她。

说了这么多，觉得楼主的压力可能真的很大，可是我觉得挣更多的钱并不是解决你生活压力的办法。还是改变一下生活的态度。

anzac_corp

在新西兰呆着就是图一个work-life balance. 新西兰的生活质量是无与伦比的，我去过的三十多个国家，没有一个比得上新西兰。

如果你要追求career，现阶段应该到大陆来。在大陆的互联网企业工作，你的收入更高，升迁更快，也可以接触到比新西兰多得多的人、项目和技术，有机会还可以自己创业。在大陆过一天，等于在新西兰一星期，无形中等于多7倍的经历，生命延长7倍！

到澳洲工作？除掉额外生活的开销，你多得到10%就很不错了，生活不会有任何本质的改变！

anzac_corp

liu_yu_1980 发表于 2016-6-15 18:14
What's the bad thing in Perth/Adelaide/Brisbane in comparison with Auckland, according to your exp ...

Perth/Adelaide的人气和diversity/dynamcis不如奥克兰，Brisbane好一点。这三个澳洲二线城市，在目前汇率下，收入水准和生活水准和奥克兰相比并没有什么优势。

liuruihua

anzac_corp 发表于 2016-6-15 13:56
在新西兰呆着就是图一个work-life balance. 新西兰的生活质量是无与伦比的，我去过的三十多个国家，没有一 ...

>>在大陆过一天，等于在新西兰一星期，无形中等于多7倍的经历，生命延长7倍！

That is an interesting post. We can develop lots of idea on this thought. :-) i.e. the people live in china age 70 years old has around 490 years nz experience. That is amazing :-)

anzac_corp

liu_yu_1980 发表于 2016-6-15 19:13
I used to work in China, and I agree there are much more tech opportunities in Shanghai, however I ...

I fully understand. It can be very frustrating and poses plenty of challenges... But there is always a flip side. To begin with, working and living in China broadens horizon. You get to know many people, expose to large projects and business opportunities that can only be dreamed of in NZ. You get to witness tremendous changes in various aspects of life that makes a return to NZ like a travel back in time.

Wherever we are, I think it is important to stay positive and open.

anzac_corp

liu_yu_1980 发表于 2016-6-15 19:06
What's the "人气"? The housing price or the number of Chinese restaurants?

What we can learn from  ...

The electronic products in AU are cheaper than that in NZ. They are even much much cheaper in China. That is the power of economy of scale, and that is what I referred to as "人气"

anzac_corp

liu_yu_1980 发表于 2016-6-15 20:38
Are you joking, which electronic sold in China is the cheapest?

http://www.priceoftravel.com/292 . ...

Read carefully, I didn't say electronics sold in China are always the cheapest.

But, you can find a huge variety of electronics in China with the latest models. The prices of certain electronic products, e.g., China-branded mobile phones / TV, are the cheapest in China of course.

anzac_corp

liu_yu_1980 发表于 2016-6-15 20:55
When talking about price, we compare the same brand/type.

If you use the price of a Shazhai to ov ...

You have probably been away from China for too long and have little idea of how far that country has come.

There are premium China-made electronic products with amazing prices. The latest models of Huawei mobile phones, for example, are by far the best mobile phones, easily blowing iPhone out of water, hands down. SmartTVs like Xiaomi/LeTV, offer far better user experience than any international brands in many ways.