$300块罚单一张，郁闷

JR01

今天早上出门有点迟，所以开的比较靠近前面的车，结果给条子叫停吃了$300罚单一张。理由是变道不打灯，和前车没有保持足够距离，就这两条各$150一条。

不知道有没有什么办法可以打个8折什么的？我服法认罪的态度还是很好的。

在线等。。。

jelly0817

dont think so =.=

OIC

背面有个可以写信投诉的地址是 多少 ?

跆拳道俊少

没什么办法的啦！老实交了吧

JR01

原帖由 OIC 于 2009-7-27 10:26 发表
背面有个可以写信投诉的地址是 多少 ?

New Zealand Police Infringement Bureau
PO Box 9147 Wellington 6141

烟酒不沾

要么省事 交了去 要么就花时间投诉呗

BeeFinance

愿意多花时间就慢慢投诉吧

policemen

you can write letter to PIB to ask for notes made by the constable..

if the constable got good notes about your driving manner and following distant..and speed.....give up...

if dont have good detail notes..you can contest it.....following distant tie to speed...
depends on your speed...if is 50km, need 4-5car distant..but such ticket normally only issued on highway..because is very dangerous when following too close on high speed area.

JR01

原帖由 policemen 于 2009-7-27 12:30 发表
you can write letter to PIB to ask for notes made by the constable..

if the constable got good notes about your driving manner and following distant..and speed.....give up...

if dont have good d ...

thank you very much for your info. the constable said to me that I was changing lane without keeping a distance of 37-50metres according to the speed, $150 for it. also did not indicate. I said to him I did, then he said I should indicate and wait till the gap large enough (you should know that such big gap doesnt exist in the busy morning rush time), so $150 for that.

I have got my full lience since 2001. I mean I know how to drive safely, the constable was just too picky on me. So what sort of "good" reasons I could give to reduce the infringement liability?  Would my good record help?

侠客无名

应该没有办法。。。

DJAY99

跟我当初一样，没办法

beansbear

nz 的警察只有2個字可以形容“白目“.沒事幹一定要抓這些有的沒的..我也是被抓過...

policemen

原帖由 JR01 于 27/7/2009 15:41 发表


thank you very much for your info. the constable said to me that I was changing lane without keeping a distance of 37-50metres according to the speed, $150 for it. also did not indicate. I said to ...

37-50m....i believe you were on highway, 80km zone...
and yes, i know, in auckland such space doesnt just happen...there will be someone cutting in....
80% of driver broke the traffic law by doing what you did...you are just unluky that you got stopped...

like i said, write a letter to ask for the costable's note...
if he got a good note and explained everything, less chance that you will won in court...
if he got shit notes...u can goto court and contest the ticket..but if u lose, extra $30 court cost + the ticket 150...
you dont need a lawyer for this..good luck

ps. i can read chinese, just cant type it

JR01

原帖由 policemen 于 2009-7-28 08:04 发表


37-50m....i believe you were on highway, 80km zone...
and yes, i know, in auckland such space doesnt just happen...there will be someone cutting in....
80% of driver broke the traffic law by doi ...

谢谢这位朋友，你的回答非常有专业水准，而且也很公道。

我准备先讨回notes来看一下。其实心里面觉得没有什么胜算，毕竟用驾规来说我是违章了（也是我没有和警员争执的原因），现在不过想看看有没有可能结合现实情况看看有没有谅解的余地少罚一些，以后我会尽量保持行驶距离。

sunmarty

这可能没办法啦....只能认了!

zhubajie

原帖由 policemen 于 2009-7-28 08:04 发表


37-50m....i believe you were on highway, 80km zone...
and yes, i know, in auckland such space doesnt just happen...there will be someone cutting in....
80% of driver broke the traffic law by doi ...

你该不是警察的奸细吧

烟酒不沾

NZ POLICE they can do nothing except pull over speeding

JR01

原帖由 烟酒不沾 于 2009-7-29 11:16 发表
NZ POLICE they can do nothing except pull over speeding

SHIT~~ I WASNT EVEN SPEEDING...... WRANKERS

policemen

原帖由 zhubajie 于 29/7/2009 11:14 发表

你该不是警察的奸细吧

no, i am not a spy...i am a cop...

policemen

原帖由 烟酒不沾 于 29/7/2009 11:16 发表
NZ POLICE they can do nothing except pull over speeding

yes, because more people die from crash than murder....

speed is 1st killer..
drink and drive is 2nd...
txting while driving 3rd...

JR01

原帖由 policemen 于 2009-7-29 23:55 发表


yes, because more people die from crash than murder....

speed is 1st killer..
drink and drive is 2nd...
txting while driving 3rd...

I see people driving and taking on the phone everday! Do police should do something about it ? Or just because most of these people are mid-class of the society and politicions? Frankly I only saw a white policeman shouting at a Chinese young man because he was on the phone while driving.

烟酒不沾

原帖由 policemen 于 2009-7-29 23:55 发表


yes, because more people die from crash than murder....

speed is 1st killer..
drink and drive is 2nd...
txting while driving 3rd...

so i heard from news, police can only give 50 dollars fine for driving with phone call, bt hw my friend got sued to court of careless driving by a phone call while driving? most europeans and maori even islanders they just got warning from the same thing. is dat fair, SIR?

烟酒不沾

原帖由 JR01 于 2009-7-30 10:30 发表


I see people driving and taking on the phone everday! Do police should do something about it ? Or just because most of these people are mid-class of the society and politicions? Frankly I only saw ...

sad...dats why i got a bluetooth while im driving...if im kiwi i dont even need to worry about this, i can argue with cops, bt im from overseas, they can and they always use one sentense to answer my questions which is "this is NEW ZEALAND law"

fatality

原帖由 烟酒不沾 于 2009-7-30 11:18 AM 发表

so i heard from news, police can only give 50 dollars fine for driving with phone call, bt hw my friend got sued to court of careless driving by a phone call while driving? most europeans and maori  ...

BEAR IN MIND:

YOU DO THAT AND GET CAUGHT, THATS NOT THE POLICES FAULT, IT'S YOURS.
SOME PEOPLE DO THAT AND GET AWAY FROM IT, THAT'S NOT THE REASON OF YOU DOING THE WRONG THING.




IF SOMEONE KILLS ANOTHER AND GOT AWAY FROM IT, BECAUSE OF INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE.
WOULD YOU DO THE SAME THING, NAMELY, KILL SOMEONE AND STAND UP AT COURT AND SAY, BECAUSE HE GOT AWAY, SO I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT I HAVE DONE?


MAKE MY WORDS
PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE SOMETHING WRONG WILL SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCE, ITS JUST A MATTER OF TIME.

fatality

原帖由 烟酒不沾 于 2009-7-29 11:16 AM 发表
NZ POLICE they can do nothing except pull over speeding

WHEN THE COPS DIE OUT THERE, WOULD YOU REAPEAT THE SAME THING TO THE MEDIA?

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RhapsodyOfFire

大家都不容易，警察也有好有坏，因为新西兰相对来讲比较安全，所以警察大部分时间用来管交通。

JR01

原帖由 fatality 于 2009-7-30 12:16 发表
BEAR IN MIND:

YOU DO THAT AND GET CAUGHT, THATS NOT THE POLICES FAULT, IT'S YOURS.
SOME PEOPLE DO THAT AND GET AWAY FROM IT, THAT'S NOT THE REASON OF YOU DOING THE WRONG THING.
...

ITS NOT ABOUT "INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE", IT IS ABOUT NOT PAYING "SUFFICIENT ATTENTION"
应该说是视而不见吧

PS. $300块我交了。那警察不是问我哪里学的开车吗 -- NEW ZEALAND!!! 操xxx种族歧视 （那个鸟人一口伦敦腔，臭屁的要死）

烟酒不沾

原帖由 fatality 于 2009-7-30 12:16 发表






BEAR IN MIND:

YOU DO THAT AND GET CAUGHT, THATS NOT THE POLICES FAULT, IT'S YOURS.
SOME PEOPLE DO THAT AND GET AWAY FROM IT, THAT'S NOT THE REASON OF YOU DOING THE WRONG THING.



...

thx mate, im not talking abwt being away from the response, im talking abwt FAIR, as same situation on  a kiwi and an Asian young guy, the 60 percent chance we got more unfair result. think abwt dat and read my post carefully.
r u a senior chager of cops and doing the spy job around us?

tudis

fffffffffddddddddddddd

policemen

這個問題可能很多人都遇到, 所以我解釋清楚一點

JR01:
I see people driving and taking on the phone everday! Do police should do something about it ? Or just because most of these people are mid-class of the society and politicions? Frankly I only saw a white policeman shouting at a Chinese young man because he was on the phone while driving.
回:目前沒有法律禁止邊開車班打手機, 致於你說的情形我只能說一顆老鼠屎壞了一鍋粥
以車禍統計來看, 洋人華人車禍的數量差不多, 但是華人比較顯眼所以普遍印象是華人比較不會開車
以我每天處理的流量來看, 洋人超速多, 華人無照駕駛多
(這邊補充一下, 以人口數來說華人車禍率是比較高的, 在奧克蘭華人大概佔20%但是車禍率大概是35-40%)

菸酒不沾:
so i heard from news, police can only give 50 dollars fine for driving with phone call, bt hw my friend got sued to court of careless driving by a phone call while driving? most europeans and maori even islanders they just got warning from the same thing. is dat fair, SIR?
回:這條法律根本還沒通過, 不知道是哪個媒體播報的? 目前警察沒權因你邊開車邊用電話給你罰單
還有你朋友是不是出車禍, 如果好好開車被告Careless我去替你查, 不可能無緣無故就告你朋友.
careless driving是如果你造成車禍基本上就一定會有的罪名, 原因很簡單打電話沒專心或其他理由不小心開車所以不小心造成車禍, 這樣被告有甚麼不對嗎?

菸酒不沾:
sad...dats why i got a bluetooth while im driving...if im kiwi i dont even need to worry about this, i can argue with cops, bt im from overseas, they can and they always use one sentense to answer my questions which is "this is NEW ZEALAND law"
回:客觀點 不要看甚麼就附和, 以我開罰單的量來說洋人佔八成, 洋人很少有爭議的或是覺得我不公平的, 反過來講為什麼華人就覺得洋人警察都歧視你呢?

JR01:
ITS NOT ABOUT "INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE", IT IS ABOUT NOT PAYING "SUFFICIENT ATTENTION"应该说是视而不见吧
PS. $300块我交了。那警察不是问我哪里学的开车吗 -- NEW ZEALAND!!! 操xxx种族歧视 （那个鸟人一口伦敦腔，臭屁的要死）
回: 你應該說在英國學的因為他是英國人, 不是視而不見 是看到也不能幹甚麼, 因為根本開車禁止打手機這條法律就還沒通過

菸酒不沾
thx mate, im not talking abwt being away from the response, im talking abwt FAIR, as same situation on  a kiwi and an Asian young guy, the 60 percent chance we got more unfair result. think abwt dat and read my post carefully.
r u a senior chager of cops and doing the spy job around us?
回: 就像我之前說的, 華人覺得洋人警察不公平但是真的事不公平嗎?你看到警察攔洋人車開罰單你會記得嗎?還是只記得又一個華人被歧視所以被攔車開罰單?? 客觀點 60%unfair result?? 怎麼來的? 我常遇到攔下華人, 司機就覺得因為我也是華人就不應該開他罰單就算他有錯.......都是公平的....

不想筆戰, 還有問題回信箱

ps. 紐西蘭還沒有華人高層.也不會做這種事

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