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I think that I can get aud 150k+ in Sydney per year as senior software developer :-)

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妈呀,跑题了各位仁兄。

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that's true, even if the salary is the same, Brisbane/Perth/Adelaide are cheaper. The ideal place f ...

http://www.wenxuecity.com/news/2016/06/21/5312778.html

I think that people will not get a house on salary usd120k in 硅谷湾区 easily :-)

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FYI, Australia is ruled by lawyer.
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums ... &topicid=197950

It is really bad for you to find happiness in Australia :-) I think that you better stay here :-)

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MSSA 发表于 2016-6-19 17:45
这年头花这么大成本搞自己一套in house的infrastructure的确实不多,佩服你的执着。我也想有这么一套玩意 ...

I am using amazon aws free instance and I am very happy about the service :-) It is free :-)

But to get 16 virtual cpu is very expensive for my work. The plan is m4.4xlarge and 3 Yr All Upfront Reserved is us$9387.

That is the cheapest way to amazon aws. There is no way for me to pay such price. I am just researching and hope to make money.

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你很会淘啊。这一堆机器才8k...

Thanks for your praise :-)

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liuruihua 发表于 2016-6-19 11:32
Thanks for your suggestion

I don't care about sys admin role though I maintain at work microsoft i ...

你很会淘啊。这一堆机器才8k...
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liuruihua 发表于 2016-6-19 11:32
Thanks for your suggestion

I don't care about sys admin role though I maintain at work microsoft i ...

这年头花这么大成本搞自己一套in house的infrastructure的确实不多,佩服你的执着。我也想有这么一套玩意玩玩,不过我也就是有一个micro server下个电影的什么的没那个闲钱搞这么牛X的东西。

不过该考虑考虑aws,现阶段cloud,aws大势所趋,你在有钱,也买不来那些computational optimized的CPU和海量的instance,ssd,还有infrastructure support。当然如果就是自己感兴趣想玩弄这些东西那另说。

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117wik 发表于 2016-6-19 10:36
I report to a GM today. All my peers are Head of except me. I should have never reported directly  ...

luxury啊很不错啊

消费习惯确实很大不同,虽然贵的东西有贵的道理,但我习惯了比较性价比。。。
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117wik 发表于 2016-6-19 10:39
oh i didn't realize you are on the sys admin side (thought you were a developer). Spending $8k for ...

Thanks for your suggestion

I don't care about sys admin role though I maintain at work microsoft iis production/test 2012 servers for the website I wrote. And I maintain centos, ubuntu, fedora server at home, without me, who else can do it without costing money? :-)

My main interest is on the website serving billions of people. But in reality, the website I work on which my boss told me covers 80% market share in one particular area in Australia/NZ, only have at most 50 requests per second. I guess most Australia big company will be at similar level. I wrote a website covers nearly 100% nz market share and the website performance was just 2 request per second and the customer apl, nalco, fletcher was very happy. That was around 6 years ago for the company I worked for before I left.

Here is the list for 8k covers
   a diy assemble i7 4770k cpu with 32gb ram and lots of samsung pro/evo ssd drives 512gb, 256gb,
   apple mac pro desktop 32gb ram 2tb drive and a ssd 500gb
   ibm x3650 m3 2 core xeon l5630 cpu 24 virtual cpu with 48gb ram server
   ibm x3650 m2 2 core xeon l5620 cpu 16 virtual cpu with 48gb ram server
   supermicro 2 core xeon e5620 cpu 16 virtual cpu with 40gb ram server
   dell 2700w ups http://pdfstream.manualsonline.c ... 71-bd900e1495b2.pdf
   apc smart ups 2000va http://www.apc.com/shop/au/en/pr ... 230V/P-SMT2200RMI2U
   two dell 30 inch lcd
   cisco 3650g 24 port giga port layer 3 switch
   dell 24port web managed 24 port giga port switch
   dell 8 port giga port switch
   dell 16 port 100m port switch

I need to test my web server performance. Here is the result I just test which is not the peak level. It is just 90000 requests per second. The file size is just 2 bytes which will push web server performance to max.

test@supermicro:/home/test $ ab -n 10000000 -c 10000 -s 120 -k http://10.0.0.1/1.html
This is ApacheBench, Version 2.3 <$Revision: 1430300 $>
Copyright 1996 Adam Twiss, Zeus Technology Ltd, http://www.zeustech.net/
Licensed to The Apache Software Foundation, http://www.apache.org/

Benchmarking 10.0.0.1 (be patient)
Completed 1000000 requests
Completed 2000000 requests
Completed 3000000 requests
Completed 4000000 requests
Completed 5000000 requests
Completed 6000000 requests
Completed 7000000 requests
Completed 8000000 requests
Completed 9000000 requests
Completed 10000000 requests
Finished 10000000 requests


Server Software:        Webserver
Server Hostname:        10.0.0.1
Server Port:            80

Document Path:          /1.html
Document Length:        2 bytes

Concurrency Level:      10000
Time taken for tests:   110.801 seconds
Complete requests:      10000000
Failed requests:        0
Write errors:           0
Keep-Alive requests:    10000000
Total transferred:      1460000000 bytes
HTML transferred:       20000000 bytes
Requests per second:    90252.19 [#/sec] (mean)
Time per request:       110.801 [ms] (mean)
Time per request:       0.011 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent requests)
Transfer rate:          12867.99 [Kbytes/sec] received

Connection Times (ms)
              min  mean[+/-sd] median   max
Connect:        0    0  11.5      0     514
Processing:    16  109 133.2     46    8949
Waiting:        0  109 133.2     46    8949
Total:         16  110 133.9     46    8949

Percentage of the requests served within a certain time (ms)
  50%     46
  66%     51
  75%    165
  80%    186
  90%    266
  95%    370
  98%    425
  99%    713
100%   8949 (longest request)

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liuruihua 发表于 2016-6-19 09:32
No, the company I work for is very small. I don't have such salary figure. My salary figure is far  ...

oh i didn't realize you are on the sys admin side (thought you were a developer). Spending $8k for home equipment? geesh what are you doing? trying to build your personal cloud? You should try to do everything leveraging AWS etc so you can grow as per your need (may be not appropriate for whatever you are trying to do).

You should consider switching to else where, there are a lot of money in architecture/design if you know the right people.

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liuruihua 发表于 2016-6-19 09:32
No, the company I work for is very small. I don't have such salary figure. My salary figure is far  ...

oh i didn't realize you are on the sys admin side (thought you were a developer). Spending $8k for home equipment? geesh what are you doing? trying to build your personal cloud? You should try to do everything leveraging AWS etc so you can grow as per your need (may be not appropriate for whatever you are trying to do).

You should consider switching to else where, there are a lot of money in architecture/design if you know the right people.

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你直接report给cio吗,很好奇,你觉得你以后能做到他的位子吗,还是因为玻璃天花板的缘故几乎没有可能?
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I report to a GM today. All my peers are Head of except me. I should have never reported directly to a GM, but company see my team as a core focus growth area and hence put me at that layer (to show the importance of my team).

I can't see myself getting to the next level, for two reasons:
- i am not interested, my current level is already political enough, the higher you go the more shit you have to deal with. I am not even sure how much longer i want to be at my current level.
- there's a ceiling that i have reached and the next level isn't something they will ever consider a 1st generation Chinese (a different GM is trying to tell me otherwise and tell me i can go very far within the company, which i don't agree).

Yes we do live like a king at home (and hence even with my current income we hardly save any), to give you an example, i have 3 kids, i can spent $10 on a mango, just for one daughter, and i can spend $7 on one strawberry for my son (before it's in season), and they have 2-3 servings of fruits everyday, and we can do that for months. We dine out a lot, spend $80-100 per meal for either standard lunch or dinner over weekend, every single weekend.

I have a very different perspective in life, to me, giving my family and kids the best of everything is how i live. :)

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technerd 发表于 2016-6-19 10:02
好像澳洲喜欢把一些dev的role叫 system engineer,而工作内容并不是network/IT

Yes, it is a Australian company I work for.

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technerd 发表于 2016-6-19 10:01
好消息,恭喜你涨工资了liuruihua!

Thanks

It was a surprise for me and my family are very happy :-)

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No, the company I work for is very small. I don't have such salary figure. My salary figure is far  ...

好像澳洲喜欢把一些dev的role叫 system engineer,而工作内容并不是network/IT
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liuruihua 发表于 2016-6-17 08:29
My boss gave me a raise last week. :-) I did not expected the raise as he said to me last year tha ...

好消息,恭喜你涨工资了liuruihua!
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technerd 发表于 2016-6-18 16:54
就是刷存在感嘛

可能在这边出生的华裔可能有英文打字的需求,其他的就是娱乐一下 刷点存在感 ...

It is very convenient and faster to type in English and I do not have religious argument that I must type in English. I am just lazy. But if someone force me to type in Chinese, I will type in English instead for obvious reasons. :-)

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love_3_month 发表于 2016-6-18 17:46
你直接report给cio吗,很好奇,你觉得你以后能做到他的位子吗,还是因为玻璃天花板的缘故几乎没有可能?
...

I guess even for the salary figure 150k, the tax is 33% above 70k which is quite heavy if as a permanent employee.

Here is the tax result from ird related to single person 150k. The income after tax is around 110k
https://brc2.ird.govt.nz/web-det ... /summary?user=guest

Tax calculation for individual - 1 April 2015 to 31 March 2016
Tax Calculation Results:                                
Income Tax Rate        Income        Tax        
Income up to $14000, taxed at 10.5%        $14,000.00        $1,470.00        
Income over $14000 and up to $48000, taxed at 17.5%        $34,000.00        $5,950.00        
Income over $48000 and up to $70000, taxed at 30%        $22,000.00        $6,600.00        
Remaining income over $70000, taxed at 33%        $80,000.00        $26,400.00        
Total        $150,000.00        $40,420.00

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117wik 发表于 2016-6-18 08:27
Wow, SkyTV was offering $150k for a head of role. If you are on pay equivalent to GM level you mus ...

No, the company I work for is very small. I don't have such salary figure. My salary figure is far lower compare to $150k. My boss was saying that as he compare to my salary to the general manager of the company I work for. I only have experience as team leader. I am not sure what is the difference between head of role and team leader. My current title is just system engineer. I don't have the word senior inside job title.
But as a business owner for the company as my boss, he can claim lots of expense as company which I cannot. i.e. I bought two used ups from trademe at $220 and around $8,000 computers and network switches which I can only paid from my after tax income. If I was a company share holder, I will just buy a new one and put as business expense. :-) I am using all these equitments and hope to make money, thus not a big deal for me anyway.

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117wik 发表于 2016-6-18 08:27
Wow, SkyTV was offering $150k for a head of role. If you are on pay equivalent to GM level you mus ...

你直接report给cio吗,很好奇,你觉得你以后能做到他的位子吗,还是因为玻璃天花板的缘故几乎没有可能?

另外,以你的收入不买房,除了那个生意和捐款,都花掉了?换个角度,很享受生活啊
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Lease 发表于 2016-6-18 11:37
Just a bit curiosity. If LZ prefers English communication, why you come to a Chinese forum?

就是刷存在感嘛

可能在这边出生的华裔可能有英文打字的需求,其他的就是娱乐一下 刷点存在感
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Just a bit curiosity. If LZ prefers English communication, why you come to a Chinese forum?

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liuruihua 发表于 2016-6-17 08:29
My boss gave me a raise last week. :-) I did not expected the raise as he said to me last year tha ...

Wow, SkyTV was offering $150k for a head of role. If you are on pay equivalent to GM level you must be on way more than that. That's amazing and incredible.

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MSSA 发表于 2016-6-17 10:06
你怎么不想如果你要的话他会给你更多呢?
你怎么不想他也许是bullshit你呢?
或者你怎么不想他与许心里本 ...

Thank you for your suggestion.

I am very happy about that. :-)

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liuruihua 发表于 2016-6-17 08:29
My boss gave me a raise last week. :-) I did not expected the raise as he said to me last year tha ...

你怎么不想如果你要的话他会给你更多呢?
你怎么不想他也许是bullshit你呢?
或者你怎么不想他与许心里本来指望你要1万,结果你自己不要他给你2000你就欢天喜地了呢?




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MSSA 发表于 2016-6-17 07:39
呵呵,死水一潭的上班族还有人在这里打嘴仗,有意思。楼主别的我不做评论了,你对工资的这个说法非常幼稚 ...

My boss gave me a raise last week. :-) I did not expected the raise as he said to me last year that I was at salary level as general manager.

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liu_yu_1980 发表于 2016-6-16 22:10
You already pointed out the fact, you worry about so much ~ and eventually still suffering, fearful ...

呵呵,死水一潭的上班族还有人在这里打嘴仗,有意思。楼主别的我不做评论了,你对工资的这个说法非常幼稚,你别以为就中国人会要工资,其实中国人算是最老实的,洋人要工资都是漫天要价。在职场上工资没有客气这一说你可以看看老外的关于职场的书(看你这么不信中国人的东西)所有的建议都是在基于市场价的基础上ask for as much as possible

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liu_yu_1980 发表于 2016-6-16 22:10
You already pointed out the fact, you worry about so much ~ and eventually still suffering, fearful ...


得,工科男还扯起鸡汤了。我输了。。。

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