苹果电脑好不好用

3hantim

感觉苹果电脑很好看

但没用过

不知道苹果电脑好不好用

求解

人间五十年

其实说白了
苹果的电脑和组装机比当然贵
但是和其他品牌的品牌机比价格还OK

vicentyang

此言差矣，不是因为要搞.net，我宁愿把所有的pc都换成mac
某人的马甲 发表于 2010-7-3 12:17

跟你搞啥没关系吧，很多人也都用苹果搞.net，也没见过有问题。

3rdman

lol, are u still on the subject?
you still sound like a noob in computer world man
just admit u are apple fan, then i'll pass
otherwise all ur saying is that you're rich. watever u buy is ur business and other ppl is not allowed to judge on ur sacred Apple brand? hah
i appologize for offending the girls, but yeh.... YOU ARE AN APPLE FAN ADMIT IT!
and it's discusting to imagine u drool over ur apple pc...and keep saying how beautiful it is as AN ART....~_~
btw, i'm tired arguing with u...different perspective won't merge anyway

thanx for ur comments

nivek

obviously, you don't really read
and cornering questions

apple is not only selling their hardware, but also their SOFTWARE and DESIGN
as per conversation, every, EVERY well known companies,
eg, sony, toshiba and lot more others, are all, too, well over priced towards your perspective.

I don't know what kind of a species you are, but to most of the human,
first impression and beauty are very important, if you can afford, why not use the pretty one?
however, as i said, art is very subjective, some people think it's nice, others don't, and likewise.

of course there are better ones than apple out there, apple is not the best in the world!
and stop telling me the diy theory, diy means customize, means do it your self.
customize sometimes can be very expensive. could be way more than 10 x apple
and don't forget to put labour into account, too, the craftsmanship and quality

but as a races like you, who judges girl with out evidence, your stand no neutralist.
i suggest you get out of the closet, walk out your room and meet some people.
i know a lot of girls who not only cares about the look, as well as the performance.
and i also known lot of guys who doesn't even care about both.

again, if you really think everything is overprice, i guess you don't really dine out.
cause every restaurant are overpriced in your theory,
you can buy the same stake in foodtown for $10 or less than spending $30 in a western restaurant
why bother? why people still goes to restaurants? don't they think it's overpriced?

chef, cook, service, recipe, atmosphere, environment and lots more.
people not only paying for the 'food'! everything costs!  think about it!
Apple is expensive, but it's not overpriced

3rdman

cpu over priced, ram over priced, hdd over priced, mb over priced
i dunno if u are buying a computer for "use" or just for the look?
trust me, there are way more better looking cases out there with alot better cooling and structure

don't want to be rude, but for me....u sound like a girl who doesn't care wats inside..lol
and i didn't say apple is ugly, but just not worth the price imho
btw, i don't diss apple at all, iphone is good, ipad is good, ipod is good, apple laptop is good, but desktop apple...meh

nivek

not saying apple is the best,
but specified what is over priced?
don't think you understand what design means

if it's hand painted case and unique design, it's art?
if I ask a 3 year old to hand painted a case, do you still call it arts? it's obviously unique!

is Mercedes Benz or BMW  over priced? it is at least 100k more than Japanese cars in the same class
can't they be purchase in other countries, cities? yes they can. and they are not 'unique'
but don't tell me a BMW M6 or a E63 AMG is not an art!  at least to most of people are!
it's not purely hand crafted, but it's still a monster beauty.
it costs 100k more and people still buys it, why? cos of it's designs! not only to it's brand.

design = time consuming, detailing, precision crafting with ergonomics
to most publics, apple's design is arts by itself
look at it's form, look at it's material, look at it's design.
you need to take these into account when you talk about 'over priced'

which company produce cheaper laptops / desk tops than DIY?
every company is over priced!  every well known company desktop/laptops can be purchase everywhere!
however, can you hand craft yourself a beautiful unibody aluminum case like apple's? NO
even if you did, sorry, you have breached intellectual property / copyrights

art is very dependent and subjective
if you think it's ugly, it's your own business
no one is forcing you to pay
if you still think it's over priced
it's either you subjectively dislike or it's out of your budget!

3rdman

33# nivek
the components sure are overpriced coz they are all the same quality parts as every other diy pcs (apple even use cheaper hdds and rams)
if it's hand paint case and unique design...it's art
if u can buy those things in every country, and nearly every cities...then it's just another pc wraped in apple's godly name

for me, the ones with careful setup water cooling with their own deisgn of loops, it's art
or the ones with their speical painted coating it's sure art!
i still stand for the apple laptops are good (coz it's special designed structure with pretty good overall works)
but for desktops.... umm

nivek

design / arts = priceless
whoever likes it, buys it
it's not over priced
it's just you can't afford it

假惆怅

Apple = Over priced

逗逗

确实是个人喜好问题

nivek

Mac 可以安裝別的輸入法  快捷鍵也是一堆
Mac 的設計非常人性化 系統也穩定很多
現在的Mac 在使用上和pc幾乎沒有區別
以前最困擾的滑鼠右鍵問題 也早已解決
也是目前唯一可以Mac OS和windows一起運作的平台 軟體設計完善
而且同樣的顯卡或零件用在 Apple 上的比一般給 pc 的電腦用的要好
這是因為 Apple 對於品管 非常的嚴格  一測再測 一試再試

所以它的精準 設計 材料 做工 本就應該列入價錢 性價比 的考量
一樣是車子  為什麼 benz 比 toyota 貴這麼多？ 一樣的道理

我是一個愛護電腦的人  不在床上用 laptop  定期清理
15前開始使用pc  後因需要攜帶方便 設計需求
3年前購入 sony 的 laptop, 一台 2500紐幣 左右
一開始用非常好  很美 也很有設計感 但朔料還是居多 雖然偶爾當個機 全都在可接受的範圍
一年後 換一顆硬碟
一年半後 鍵盤有問題 鍵盤按鍵剝落 機身過熱  電池續航力巨減
兩年半後 顯示卡燒毀 需更換主機板

3個月前 購入 15" Macbook pro core i7
我只能說 雖然多了 1000紐幣  但是物超所值
花了7天去適應從 pc 轉 mac
發現 mac 真的太好用了 美觀又穩定 科技上面也很強
市面上哪個筆電有這麼大的 Multi-Touch trackpad？
用料還是 wear-resistan etched glass  質感不說 還 很耐用
有了bootcamp 如果真的需要用到 window 的部份 也不成問題

當然因為市面上的商業策略
沒有一台電腦是真正完美的

如果預算是個問題  當然不要免強
況且 pc 的好處也是一堆  遊戲方面遠超mac
容易 customize 條校 與周邊的兼容性 也是比較強

總是各有優缺  要不然怎麼可以各佔頭角
蘿蔔青菜各有所愛阿

xiaoyang0888

我用过两个，Mac book pro 13 和15 的都感觉不错。。。用Mac的系统习惯了其实比windows稳定。。。

ibeloved

26# MR.M
可以的，貌似叫QIM还是什么。

MR.M

总得来就ＭＡＣ还是不错了，就是在图像输出上不是很好，没有ＨＤＭＩ输出，接电视什么的画面转换也不是很方便，都不能像ＳＯＮＹ的本本一样有什么快截键

顺便弱的问一句，ＭＡＣ能安装别的输入法么，ＭＡＣ自带的输入法不是很好用的说

ibeloved

24# 3rdman
是笔电啊， 这年头我很少看到有华人买 MAC PRO的。莫非LZ说的 IMAC。
个人用户和PRODUCTION ENVIRONMENT 下的需求是不一样的，至少在各个录音室， 设计室 APPLE 产品还是比较普遍的。

简单的例子就是一个很低配置的 MAC PRO 放在 TRADEME 上1500 被疯抢， 而GAMER 配置的PC 低价了还是没人理。

3rdman

22# ibeloved
你講的是筆電吧
apple的laptop本來整合性就很高阿, 手提買mac倒是不錯的選擇至於你說的散熱問題, 除了本身的設計上, 使用的散熱膏跟使用者習慣都很重要阿
mac再強你整天放在床上用也沒清理, 一樣壞給你看

台式機當然能自己動手才能發揮最高c/p
21世紀當然還是講性價比...因為我沒那麼有錢.xd

吃草的狮子

看你习不习惯，一旦你习惯了你就觉得非常好用

但是，苹果绝对不适合打游戏！！！！！

ibeloved

老埋怨别人发帖也不是回事，我也说说吧。
很多人觉得苹果是没有性价比， 好看不好用， 我只想说，那麻烦您用用再发言？外观一看就可以评论了，只有使用上，那些真正最少用了1年以上的才有发言权吧。

苹果把自己定位为移动产品， 那移动产品最主要的几个观念是啥捏？
1. 外观设计 ， 貌似大家都同意了。 外观设计不是好看那么简单， 还要设计的 好移动。

2. 续航能力， 对，苹果不是续航能力最长的，但是比市面上大部分的移动电脑续航能力都要强， 电池的设计也很不错，最少我的MBP 和我媳妇的MB 都用了2  年多了， 电池还是那样。 那些用别的牌子的童鞋们应该也对自己电池的品质有点认识了吧。

3 散热能力， 最近很多人都抱怨APPLE的本子过热，的确是这样。 可是APPLE跟大部分其他牌子不大一样的是， 过了2年后，APPLE 还是那个温度，而其他的有很大程度都过热的不能启动了吧？

4 安全性，哎，可惜苹果没啥指纹认证啥的。 但是内建的 MOTION SENSOR 很多移动电脑厂商都为了节省成本给节俭掉了。

5 耐用性，这就不说了吧。


还是那句话，性价比，什么叫做性价比？ 性能 价格 比？21世纪的笔记本电脑，还说性价比呢？ 性能不只是PERFORMANCE,  我觉得应该是 这个产品有多么符合他的产品定位。 如果一律求性价比， 那应该买个杂牌子的 把台式机的各部件都挤到 笔记本电脑里的那种， 那种多NB啊， CPU 贼快， RAM 贼多，硬盘贼大，还有独立显卡，那可是独立显卡啊。
哎。

bigbill

好看又好用

人间五十年

除了性价比低了一点以外，现在苹果用起来是越用越顺手
其实很多说不好用都是习惯问题，功能上并没有差

微软是很ＮＢ，但是微软只做软件，不做硬件，所以它根本不考虑硬件配置
ＩＮＴＥＬ很ＮＢ，但是制作硬件，不做软件，除了不断提高硬件，也不用知道用户怎么考虑
只有苹果软件硬件都做，所以苹果的东西性能不见得是最强大的，尤其是性价比上
但是苹果往往知道什么是最人性化什么是用户最需要的

ohgo_go

个人喜欢就好了，看习惯了。。。

hiro_shi

好看不中用，同样的配置，苹果贵很多

3rdman

也不是要求電腦強到有資源過剩的想法
反而是能把那筆錢挪到周邊上會更好~ 像是硬碟就永遠不嫌大..hah
就聽你的, 今天出門特別去逛一下mac專賣店好了 :D

某人的马甲

硬件也相当人性啊，呼吸灯，磁性电源接口，无挂钩设计，多点触摸，电源指示灯等等
当然配置是绝对不如同价位的pc，话说回来，如果配置满足要求的情况下，为什么还要提高导致“资源剩余”呢。个人有个不成熟的看法，关注硬件配置这个习惯完全是由windows有缺陷的设计所造成。
兄弟有机会的话不妨试一试mac，感受一下另外一个世界。

3rdman

恩恩~看來mac是贏在很多軟體設計比較完善
難道! 折衷後就是自己組desktop然後裝mac os? lol

某人的马甲

恩...那mac到底哪裡對你而言是一般桌機無法取代的?
3rdman 发表于 2010-7-3 12:44

当然可以取代，但是用着更顺手，我能深刻体会到“给人用而不是给人学”的理念，很多使用上的小细节让我觉得mac更让我信赖。当然这是个人看法，具体要看用途和使用习惯了，别误会，我不想挑起战火，毕竟我也是从dos过来的用户

3rdman

此言差矣，不是因为要搞.net，我宁愿把所有的pc都换成mac
某人的马甲 发表于 2010-7-3 12:17

恩...那mac到底哪裡對你而言是一般桌機無法取代的?

某人的马甲

蘋果上面能做到的windows都能而且更強
除非你真的是apple fan或是愛她的外表, or 你正在學校學習的都是用蘋果...不然對一個有點電腦常識使用者..應該都不會挑蘋果
3rdman 发表于 2010-7-2 17:10

此言差矣，不是因为要搞.net，我宁愿把所有的pc都换成mac