CGT来了

Lease

bungyjumping999 发表于 2019-2-21 18:34
you misunderstood my points.

The entity is set up in a tax haven country such as Singapore.

Bloody complicated, I need a tax specialist advice on such things.

快乐123

love_3_month 发表于 2019-2-21 19:04
这在那里看到的，还有什么例子吗

详细的介绍请看下面的报告:
https://taxworkinggroup.govt.nz/resources/future-tax-final-report-vol-ii-html

V7

love_3_month 发表于 2019-2-21 17:36
之前买的早的，已经升值了几十万。。。

先再政策实行前把房子过户到LTC, 赚的钱免税

对，全款的投资房该赠与的就赠予。

bungyjumping999

V7 发表于 2019-2-21 20:18
对，全款的投资房该赠与的就赠予。

赠予 ------------> although there is no gift duty, They will tax on the gain based on Market Value.

This is covered in many countries that have a capital gain tax. Don't think IRD don't think of that !

Non- Market transaction (eg $1 or natural love and affections transfers)  requires a valuation at the time of disposal and based on that valuation to pay the requisite tax.

It will be laughable, the person who bought it $1 from you will have to pay $999,999.00 of the gain of CGT, if the property is sold for $1 Million next time....... haha.

NewLynnHse

bungyjumping999 发表于 2019-2-21 19:53
赠予 ------------> although there is no gift duty, They will tax on the gain based on Market Value. ...

this CGT is unfair if there's no corresponding CLD...haha!!!

bungyjumping999

NewLynnHse 发表于 2019-2-21 20:57
this CGT is unfair if there's no corresponding CLD...haha!!!

For people who already owned the property, they will do a valuation on 1 April 2020 and any gain pay tax.

If any loss, they can offset for the next property they sell (if any gain) within a tax year. haha... unfair.Eg Property no.2 gain $100K - $30K losses from Property no.1 = $70K gain tax that need to pay (eg 33%).

It is only for people who already owned the property before 1 April 2020

NewLynnHse

bungyjumping999 发表于 2019-2-21 20:01
For people who already owned the property, they will do a valuation on 1 April 2020 and any gain pa ...

Let's wait for Winston to say something about this CGT...haha

bungyjumping999

NewLynnHse 发表于 2019-2-21 21:04
Let's wait for Winston to say something about this CGT...haha

He will be sent to China by his voters if he supports CGT.

He once said that his early ancestor was chinese.

NewLynnHse

bungyjumping999 发表于 2019-2-21 20:06
He will be sent to China by his voters if he supports CGT.

He once said that his early ancestor w ...

Poor old man, so many things on him now...haha!!!

NZ - China relationship is also his business as foreign minister, then now CGT recommended when he said before a CGT will never work...haha

bungyjumping999

NewLynnHse 发表于 2019-2-21 21:09
Poor old man, so many things on him now...haha!!!

NZ - China relationship is also his business as ...

NZ does not need CGT.

Brightline test 5 years is powerful enough.

Imagine if a farmer owned a farm for 40 years and need to sell it one day due to succession problem and bad health. For 40 years' gain, how much tax he has to pay?
Many farms are capital intensive investments, the gain is on Capital with sacrifices on cash flow. That is why no one dare to touch CGT.... as NZ is a farming Country.

I hope Labour coalitions will be roasted by voters this time.....

猩猩都叫兽

nasi_chilli 发表于 2019-2-21 13:47
就算weedstone pita现在否決了，2020后，工绿上台有50％（NZF不会夠5％）会立即推行。taxcinta下一屈会赢 ...

哥只想对你的英语拼写表示佩服。。。要是不在新西兰生活过些年还真不知道谁是 weedstone pita

bluekiwisky

这个也好。
让你买了房子不要随便卖，断绝了那种短期炒房的。

我要买车

bluekiwisky 发表于 2019-2-22 10:55
这个也好。
让你买了房子不要随便卖，断绝了那种短期炒房的。

短期炒房投机的已经有五年明线的那个税了。
cgt完全是给投资的人设置的税，也就是说你赚钱它跟着收，赔了它不赔，只能抵。没跑赢通胀跟它没关系，一分不能少

love_3_month

今天看到一篇文章角度挺好的

1. 预计几年收几十亿 - 连巴菲特都不敢说几年的资产升值是多少，他们怎么就敢预测呢
2.原希望把资金从楼市挤出来，进入其他行业，促进生产率的提高（之类）的，但现在所有都收税啊，怎么进入其他行业呢。
The long-standing argument for a CGT is to rebalance investment away from unproductive residential property towards productive businesses and the capital markets.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/busin ... p;objectid=12206085

bungyjumping999

love_3_month 发表于 2019-2-22 12:16
今天看到一篇文章角度挺好的

1. 预计几年收几十亿 - 连巴菲特都不敢说几年的资产升值是多少，他们怎么就敢 ...

CGT has different forms, some are just like brightline Test's 5 years, a lot of people has mistaken it as a CGT.

This new CGT is the toughest in the world. Forever need to pay, even if you own it for 50 years.

ThinkOutLoud

bungyjumping999 发表于 2019-2-22 14:27
CGT has different forms, some are just like brightline Test's 5 years, a lot of people has mistaken ...

有CGT 应该同时有capital loss tax rebate才合理

快乐123

ThinkOutLoud 发表于 2019-2-22 15:17
有CGT 应该同时有capital loss tax rebate才合理

好主意，losses can be carried forward to offset future gains.

V7

bungyjumping999 发表于 2019-2-22 14:27
CGT has different forms, some are just like brightline Test's 5 years, a lot of people has mistaken ...

这个是针对就算你投资房长期持有者，就算你持有30年，最后卖了就要缴纳个人所得。

海边风

bungyjumping999 发表于 2019-2-21 12:06
Wait first, i am curious what Winston Peter would say and will he support it?

Most of his voters ar ...

no already. ..........................