争对华人打人事件

一面水镜

http://chch.skykiwi.com/na/2015-08-26/203683.shtml

rt. 提醒大家小心。

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新西兰的法律已经无可救药了，一个400万人口的小国家，每天新闻都是被打，被抢，被偷，记得几年前就连过来旅游都会被强奸，还是个小女孩，你说这国家还有什么前途。

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是华人打人? 还是华人被打?

Ageorge

正确的标题“针对近期基村华人被打事件的评论”

LasTnG

如果发自肺腑的，就剩最后一句了，那我会说，如果在给我一个机会，我绝对不会来。

雷蒙德

这都是不可避免的，所以我们要是看到的哪个华人被kiwi打，我们要相互帮助，哪怕帮忙打电话报警，尤其是年龄大的父母，真不容易在这里.....所以我们要团结，不要自己人欺负自己人....

HongChen12

雷蒙德 发表于 2015-9-1 16:35
这都是不可避免的，所以我们要是看到的哪个华人被kiwi打好我们要相互帮助，哪怕帮忙打电话报警，尤其是年龄 ...

华人能团结吗？哈哈

UV15

HongChen12 发表于 2015-9-1 16:52
华人能团结吗？哈哈

不能指望所有人都团结。太大 太空。

具体的，可以身边的朋友先团结一下，然后周围的邻里，然后朋友和周围邻里，年轻人的群体；老年人的群体。一定的范围内是可以做到的。

雷蒙德

HongChen12 发表于 2015-9-1 16:52
华人能团结吗？哈哈

别人我不知道，但是我看见了一定会帮忙的.....，

注意：发生任何事情都不会是单方面的原因，先反省一下自己是非常必要的.......

HongChen12

雷蒙德 发表于 2015-9-1 17:18
别人我不知道，但是我看见了一定会帮忙的.....，

注意：发生任何事情都不会是单方面的原因，先反省一下自 ...

我是想帮助的，可是最后却伤害了自己，

Lollycake

被打完之后也不能怎样， 最后觉得都是被白打一顿。又不能自己到武器防身。很难生活，说句不好听的要是这种情况越来越严重。最后都是白被打

springblossoms

Lollycake 发表于 2015-9-2 14:51
被打完之后也不能怎样， 最后觉得都是被白打一顿。又不能自己到武器防身。很难生活，说句不好听的要是这种 ...

如果不会反抗的话，那只能说太怂蛋了，要自卫啊，既然白打，不如打kiwi一顿，没人管的话，那就丛林法则呗

sunmarty

抓到能怎样。。。关几个月还是做点免费劳工就算了！！这法律有时候警察都无奈抓了又抓。。。。。

sunmarty

这要是kiwi被8-9亚洲人打了，警察就来劲了。。。因为抓了能遣送什么的！！！

sinkylover

主要这边法律也保护当地人啊。。。你说要一个没pr看见同胞被打了 帮还是不帮呢。。。

xuantian13

HongChen12 发表于 2015-9-2 07:56
我是想帮助的，可是最后却伤害了自己，

说的对                    

xuantian13

Lollycake 发表于 2015-9-2 14:51
被打完之后也不能怎样， 最后觉得都是被白打一顿。又不能自己到武器防身。很难生活，说句不好听的要是这种 ...

是白被打了  之前有个朋友被打了。 去报警  当时有个华人警官说你为什么不打回去， 这事就这么结束。 只能说这边警察除了拿纳税人的钱发工资  都是饭桶。。。

1977pacmann

这和PR有什么关系？又不是群殴斗殴，见义勇为和身份有一毛钱关系？PR和普通学生签工作签有何特权？ 犯法都是一样的。前提是犯法。

防身是正当防卫，哪里都是合法的。当然你要是带刀枪就说不过去了，这里不是美国啊。

被打没被破的案子多了，都是白被打？？个人认为忍气吞声认倒霉不报警才是白白被打。挨打不还手是耸蛋。打不过，可以跑啊，叫救援啊，叫警察啊。警察虽然无用，但是总比没警察好吧？希望就事论事，警察如果真是忽略亚裔人群 搞特殊不一视同仁也就罢了，那叫种族迫害。问题是有这么严重吗？以前攻击亚裔被捉被判的都是哪来的？ 要说警察对亚裔受袭击的案子不管，那白人喝醉了和白人斗殴打架的案子多了去了，没破案的案子也多了去了，是不是警察也歧视KIWI？

sallycantskate

正当防卫很难把握尺度， 如何断定， 谁来断定

一面水镜

还是偶们基督城的华人文明，讨论也很热烈。（鼓掌）

看了下以上发言，试着来总结两句：

1. 这是的打人事件看来不少，警察警力有限，看来报了不破的占多数， 但还是要大胆报，报了才有希望破。

2. 因警力有限，并且就算小概率打人者被抓住，犯案者处罚似乎也轻，所以警局人员也鼓励被打者努力还手自救先 （在保证自身安全前提下，女士最好考虑买个防身小武器），同时扯开喉咙大声呼喊寻求援助。

3.  此事无关PR与无PR，见义勇为这事走到全世界都是正能量，但亲们一定要注意保护自已。

话说，新闻里还说前两天在城南有两家dairy shop也遭劫了。　

哎， 国家经济下行，会生生多出一些刁民。

求福。

dzmessenger

SECTION 48 of the Crimes Act 1961 provides:

Everyone is justified in using, in the defence of himself or another, such force as, in the circumstances as he believes them to be, it is reasonable to use.

This defence recognises that people have a right to defend themselves against violence or threats of violence, so long as the force used is no more than is reasonable for that purpose. The law does not require people to wait until they have been attacked before taking action to protect themselves. But the law also acknowledges the attacker’s right to life and bodily integrity and requires the force used in self-defence to be no more than is necessary to prevent the violence or threatened violence.

一面水镜

就是说可以先发制人，受法律保护。　

谢谢dzmessenger的信息！

不过有时候这种情况下，证据是不是很难提供？

dzmessenger

Yes or No. In general, "All suspects are presumed innocent until found guilty in a court of law" SO you don't need prove anything; that's job of the court or police find evidence to prosecute. If each party involved is no injured or no complains, there is then no problem and no legal proceeding. If self-defence is overly done caused serious injuries or death, the game will change. In this situation, you become an "assailant" not "victim", so there are no easy answers and all depends.

Sharing few simple tips from what I read, learn and hear:

1. A fight avoided is a FIGHT WIN. No need to fight if you could run. The fight is always your last resource. Be like an animal, if cannot fight always be ready to run away from danger. Don't just stand there and become "victim". Be situational awareness, always check around people around you and keep good distance with them. In public space, don't just focus on watching your bloody cellphone or doing anything distraction, be aware your surrounding all the time.

2. In case, you cannot avoid and do you best to defend yourself. No one can help you when the assault occurs at the time (Police will say that). You are the only person responsible for your own life. You don't be victim and you need fight for survival. Best do some sport activities or learn some martial arts, that gives you some physical ability when you need during the fight or simply at least enables you to run away when you needed. I have been practising martial arts for years and no fight yet. However if really happens no doubt I will do whatever I can to test what I have learned.  Also, don't let martial arts override your confidence. Most people train in dojo where you train under rules with nice parters. Out street is different story from where you used to be trained. So don't rely too much you learn from martial arts Bollocks! Learn whatever which is best work for you. All these no guarantee you win a fight,  but at least give you good mindset and attitude to deal with nasty situation. Remember "WIN the fight" is not the goal; your safety is priority.

3. Always report any complaints or incidents to Police. If you don't, you lose your chance to get those thugs in jail. The more people report incidents, the more chance get Police's awareness and they will have to do somethings about. Otherwise, no one reports and there is no problem for them. Don't just complaint police do nothing, at least you need tell them what you concern. Whether they can solve the case or not, who knows and at least got try.