笑话, 关于一个整天说要言论自由的

lzhizhao

carter 发表于 2014-7-6 17:30
你去问中共或查野史吧.

哪里查不到，不过我查到圣经里面就杀了250万的异教徒，包括大部分的儿童和婴儿。

masterq

爭取個人的自由即是爭取國家的自由。「現在有人對你們說：『犧牲你們個人的自由，去求國家的自由！』我對你們說：『爭你們個人的自由，便是為國家爭自由！爭你們個人的人格，便是為國家爭人格！自由平等的國家不是一群奴才建造得起來的！』」



胡適

lzhizhao

carter 发表于 2014-7-6 17:41
我读过圣经怎不知有写杀了250万的异教徒? 宗教无罪, 利用宗教挑起战争的人才有罪, 但比起秦始皇和中国历代 ...

http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.co.nz/2010/04/drunk-with-blood-gods-killings-in-bible.html，不是250万，我写错了，是2500万。

当教徒做了邪恶的事情，我们说是人性，当教徒做了好的事情，我们说是神的指导。结论：只要加入了宗教，人性变得邪恶。

masterq

carter 发表于 2014-7-6 17:44
明白人呵.

老Q

周末了,都歇了吧,政治,宗教,永遠沒有結果的話題,人人心中都有一把尺,爭什么呢?你不覺得煩嗎?

lzhizhao

carter 发表于 2014-7-6 17:46
看不到造谣脑残的link, "The file you request is missing.Please check the URL."

没看就说造谣，那是你们教徒的强大判断能力。这是完整的清单，你可以对照圣经来参考。

Killing Event        Reference        Bible's Number        Estimate
1        The Flood of Noah        Gen 7:23                20,000,000
2        Abraham's war to rescue Lot        Gen 14:17-19                1,000
3        Sodom and Gomorrah        Gen 19:24                2,000
4        Lot's wife        Gen 19:26        1        1
5        While they were sore, Dinah's brethren slew all the males        Gen 34:1-31, Judith 9:2-3        2        1,000
6        Er for being wicked in the sight of the Lord        Gen 38:7        1        1
7        Onan for spilling his seed        Gen 38:10        1        1
8        A seven year worldwide famine        Gen 41:25-54                70,000
9        There will be blood: The first plague of Egypt        Ex 7:15-27 , Wis 11:7-8                10,000
10        The seventh plague: hail        Ex 9:25                300,000
11        Firstborn Egyptian children        Ex 12:29-30                500,000
12        The Lord took off their chariot wheels        Ex 14:8-26        600        5,000
13        Amalekites        Ex 17:13                1,000
14        Who is on the Lord's side?: Forcing friends and family to kill each other        Ex 32:27-28        3,000        3,000
15        Aaron's golden calf        Ex 32:35                1,000
16        God burns Aaron's sons to death for offering "strange fire"        Lev 10:1-3        2        2
17        A blasphemer is stoned to death        Lev 24:10-23        1        1
18        When the people complained, God burned them to death        Num 11:1                100
19        While the flesh was still between their teeth, the Lord smote them will a very great plague        Num 11:33                10,000
20        Ten scouts are killed for their honest report        Num 14:35-45        10        110
21        A man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day is stoned to death        Num 15:32-35        1        1
22        Korah, his companions, and their families are buried alive        Num 16:27        3        9
23        God burns 250 people to death for burning incense        Num 16:35        250        250
24        God kills 14,700 for complaining about God's killings        Num 16:49        14,700        14,700
25        The massacre of the Aradies        Num 21:1-2                3,000
26        God sent serpents to bite people for complaining about the lack of food and water        Num 21:6                100
27        Phineas's double murder: A killing to end God's killing        Num 25:1-11        24,002        24,002
28        The Midianite massacre: Have ye saved all the women alive?        Num 31:1-35        6        200,000
29        God slowly killed the Israelite army        Dt 2:14-16                500,000
30        God the giant killer        Dt 2:21-22                5,000
31        God hardens King Sihon's heart so all his people can be killed        Dt 2:33-34        1        5,000
32        Og and all the men women, and children in 60 cities        Dt 3:6        1        60,000
33        The Jericho massacre        Jos 6:21                1,000
34        Achan and his family        Jos 7:10-26        1        5
35        The Ai massacre        Jos 8:1-25        12,000        12,000
36        God stops the sun so Joshua can get his killing done in the daylight        Jos 10:10-11                5,000
37        Five kings killed and hung on trees        Jos 10:26        5        10,000
38        Joshua utterly destroyed all that breathed as the Lord commanded        Jos 10:28-42        7        7,000
39        The genocide of twenty cities: There was not any left to breathe        Jos 11:8-12        2        20,000
40        The Anakim: some more giant killing        Jos 11:20-21                5,000
41        The Lord delivered the Canaanites and Perizzites        Jg 1:4        10,000        10,000
42        The Jerusalem massacre        Jg 1:8                1,000
43        Five massacres, a wedding, and God-proof iron chariots        Jg 1:9-25                5,000
44        The Lord delivered Chushanrishathaim        Jg 3:7-10        1        1,000
45        Ehud delivers a message from God        Jg 3:15-22        1        1
46        God delivers 10,000 lusty Moabites        Jg 3:28-29        10,000        10,000
47        Shamgar killed 60 Philistines with an ox goad        Jg 3:31        600        600
48        Barak and God massacre the Canaanites        Jg 4:15-16                1,000
49        Jael pounds a tent stake through a sleeping man's skull        Jg 4:18-22        1        1
50        Gideon's story: The Lord set every man's sword against his fellow        Jg 7:22        120,000        120,000
51        A city is massacred and 1000 burn to death because of God's evil spirit        Jg 9:23-27        1,001        2,000
52        The Ammonite massacre        Jg 11:32-33                20,000
53        Jephthah's daughter        Jg 11:39        1        1
54        42,000 die for failing the "shibboleth" test        Jg 12:4-7        42,000        42,000
55        Samson murdered 30 men for their clothes        Jg 14:19        30        30
56        Samson killed 1000 men with the jawbone of an ass        Jg 15:14-15        1,000        1,000
57        Samson killed 3000 in a suicide terrorist attack        Jg 16:27-30        3,000        3,000
58        A holy civil war (it had something to do with rotting concubine body part messages)        Jg 20:35-37        65,100        65,100
59        The end of Judges: two genocides and 200 stolen virgins        Jg 21:10-14                4,000
60        God killed Eli's sons and 34,000 Israelite soldiers        1 Sam 2:25, 4:11        34,002        34,002
61        God smote them with hemorrhoids in their secret parts        1 Sam 5:1-12                3,000
62        50,070 killed for looking into the ark of the Lord        1 Sam 6:19        50,070        50,070
63        The Lord thundered a great thunder upon the Philistines        1 Sam 7:10-11                1,000
64        Another Ammonite massacre (and another God-inspired body part message)        1 Sam 11:6-13                1,000
65        Jonathan's first slaughter        1 Sam 14:12-14        20        20
66        God forces the Philistines to kill each other        1 Sam 14:20                1,000
67        The Amalekite genocide        1 Sam  15:2-3                10,000
68        Samuel hacks Agag to death before the Lord        1 Sam 15:32-33        1        1
69        In the valley of Elah: Goliath        1 Sam 17:51, 2 Sam 21:19        1        1
70        David buys a wife with 200 Philistine foreskins        1 Sam  18:27        200        200
71        The Lord said to David, Go and smite the Philistines        1 Sam 23:2-5                10,000
72        God killed Nabal (and David got his wife and other stuff)        1 Sam 25:38        1        1
73        David commits random acts of genocide for the Philistines        1 Sam 27:8-11                60,000
74        David spends the day killing Amalekites        1 Sam 30:17                1,000
75        God kills Saul, his sons, and his soldiers (because Saul didn't kill all the Amalekites)        1 Sam 31:2, 2 Chr 10:6        4        100
76        David kills the messenger        2 Sam 1:15        1        1
77        David killed, mutilated, and hung Rechab and Baanah        2 Sam 4:12        2        2
78        God helps David smite the Philistines from the front and the rear        2 Sam 5:19-25                2,000
79        God killed Uzzah for trying to keep the ark from falling        2 Sam 6:6-7, 1 Chr 13:9-10        1        1
80        David killed two-thirds of the Moabite POWs and enslaved the rest        2 Sam 8:2                667
81        And the Lord gave David victory wherever he went        2 Sam 8 - 10        65,850        66,850
82        David killed every male in Edom        2 Sam 8:13-14, 1 Kg 11:15-16, 1 Chr 18:12, Ps 60:1        15,000        25,000
83        Thus did David do to all the children of Ammon        2 Sam 11:1, 1 Chr 20:1                1,000
84        God slowly kills a baby        2 Sam 12:14-18        1        1
85        Seven sons of Saul are hung up before the Lord        2 Sam 21:1-9        7        3,000
86        David's mighty men and their amazing killings        2 Sam 23, 1 Chr 11        1,403        3,400
87        God killed 70,000 because of David had a census that God (or Satan) told him to do        2 Sam 24:15, 1 Chr 21:14        70,000        200,000
88        Solomon murdered Job and Shimei (per David's deathbed wish)        1 Kg 2:29-46        2        2
89        A tale of two prophets        1 Kg 13:11-24        1        1
90        Jeroboam's son: God kills another child        1 Kg 14:17        1        1
91        Jeroboam's family        1 Kg 15:29                10
92        Baasha's family and friends        1 Kg 16:11-12                20
93        Zimri burns to death        1 Kg 16:18-19        1        1
94        The drought of Elijah        1 Kg 17:1, Luke 4:25, James 5:17-18                3,000
95        Elijah kills 450 religious leaders in a prayer contest        1 Kg 18:22-40        450        450
96        The first God-assisted slaughter of the Syrians        1 Kg 20:20-21                10,000
97        God killed 100,000 Syrians for calling him a god of the hills        1 Kg 20:28-29        100,000        100,000
98        God killed 27,000 Syrians by making a wall fall on them        1 Kg 20:30        27,000        27,000
99        God sent a lion to kill a man for not smiting a prophet        1 Kg 20:35-36        1        1
100        God killed Ahab for not killing a captured king        1 Kg 20:42, 22:35        1        1
101        God burned 102 men to death for asking Elijah to come down from his hill        2 Kg 1:10-12        102        102
102        God killed Ahaziah for asking the wrong God        2 Kg 1:16-17, 2 Chr 22:7-9        1        1
103        God sent bears to kill 42 boys for making fun of a prophet's bald head        2 Kg 2:23-24        42        42
104        The Lord delivered the Moabites        2 Kg 3:18-25                5,000
105        A skeptic is trampled to death        2 Kg 7:2-20        1        1
106        God's seven year famine        2 Kg 8:1                7,000
107        Jehoram of Israel        2 Kg 9:24        1        1
108        Jezebel        2 Kg 9:33-37        1        1
109        Ahab's sons: 70 heads in two baskets        2 Kg 10:6-10        70        70
110        Ahab's hometown family, friends, and priests        2 Kg 10:11                20
111        Jehu killed Ahaziah's family        2 Kg 10:12-13, 2 Chr 22:7-9        42        42
112        Jehu and his partner kill the rest of Ahab's family        2 Kg 10:17                20
113        Jehu assembled the followers of Baal and then slaughtered them all        2 Kg 10:18-25                1,000
114        Mattan the priest of Baal and Queen Athaliah        2 Kg 11:17-20        2        2
115        God sent lions to eat those who didn't fear him enough        2 Kg 17:25-26                10
116        An angel killed 185,000 sleeping soldiers        2 Kg 19:34, 37:36        185,000        185,000
117        God caused King Sennacherib to be killed by his sons        2 Kg 19:37, Tobit 1:21        1        1
118        Josiah killed all the priests of the high places        2 Kg 23:20                100
119        Just another holy war        1 Chr 5:18-22                50,000
120        God killed a half million Israelite soldiers        2 Chr 13:17-18        500,000        500,000
121        Jeroboam        2 Chr 13:20        1        1
122        God killed a million Ethiopians        2 Chr 14:9-14        1,000,000        1,000,000
123        Friendly fire: God forced "a great multitude" to kill each other        2 Chr 20:22-25                30,000
124        God made Jehoram's bowels fall out        2 Chr 21:14-19        1        1
125        God killed Jehoram's sons        2 Chr 22:1                3
126        Ahaziah of Judah        2 Chr 22:7-8        1        1
127        Joash, the princes, and army of Judah        2 Chr 24:20-25        1        10,000
128        God destroyed Amaziah        2 Chr 25:15-27        1        1,000
129        God smote Ahaz with the king of Syria        2 Chr 28:1-5        1        10,000
130        God killed 120,000 valiant men for forsaking him        2 Chr 28:6        120,000        120,000
131        The fall of Jerusalem        2 Chr 36:16-17                10,000
132        The Purim killings: God hath done these things        Esther 2 - 9, 10:4        75,813        75,813
133        God and Satan kill Job's children and slaves        Job 1:18-19        10        60
134        Hananiah        Jer 28:15-16        1        1
135        Ezekiel's wife        Ezek 24:15-18        1        1
136        Oh! Susanna        Dan 13:6-62        2        2
137        Judith is blessed above all women (for cutting off a sleeping man's head)        Judith 13:6-10        1        1
138        The Judith massacre: hang ye up this head upon our walls        Judith 15:1-6                1,000
139        Mathathias's double murder        1 Mac 2:24-25        2        2
140        Mathathias and his friends slay the wicked sinners        1 Mac 2:44                100
141        God killed Andronicus, the sacrilegious wretch        2 Mac 4:38        1        1
142        A Jewish mob killed Lysimachus, the sacrilegious fellow        2 Mac 4:42        1        1
143        God helped Judas Machabeus destroy the wicked        1 Mac 3:1-26, 2 Mac 8:5-6        800        4,900
144        Judas and his unarmed men kill 3000 of Gorgias's soldiers        1 Mac 3:44-4:24        3,000        3,000
145        The Hanukkah killings        1 Mac 4:34-5:7        5,000        17,000
146        The Machabees brothers slaughter the heathens        1 Mac 5:21-51        11,000        37,000
147        Nicanor's army: The Almighty being their helper, they slew above nine thousand men        1 Mac 7:32-47, 2 Mac 8:24, 15:27        147,002        147,002
148        Jonathan and Simon destroy the wicked out of Israel        1 Mac  9:46-49, 2 Mac  8:30-33, 10:61        1,000        1,200
149        Five heavenly horsemen cast darts and fireballs at the enemy        2 Mac 8:32-10:38        21,103        21,400
150        God killed Antiochus with an incurable bowel disease        2 Mac 9:5-28        1        1
151        Idumeans, traitors, and Jews in two towers        2 Mac 10:16-17        40,000        40,100
152        Nicanor's head: A manifest sign of the help of God        1 Mac 7:33-48, 2 Mac  15:1-35        35,000        35,000
153        Aliens at Cades        1 Mac 11:74        3,000        3,000
154        John burns to death 2000 in the tower of Azotus        1 Mac 16:10        2,000        2,000
155        God sent wasps to slowly destroy people        Wisdom 11:7-8                1,000
156        Ananias and Sapphira        Acts 5:5-10        2        2
157        Herod Aggripa        Acts 12:23        1        1
158        Jesus        Rom 8:32, 1 Pet 1:1820        1        1
Totals        2,821,364        24,994,828
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lzhizhao

carter 发表于 2014-7-6 17:51
天灾都算, 那中国历代昏君可能杀了几个亿的中国人.

难道天灾不是神制造的？神不是无所不能么？

如果你有能力救一个人，你却翘起双手视而不见，那是不是邪恶？你们教徒的道德观怎么老是需要一个非教徒来教育呢。

lzhizhao

carter 发表于 2014-7-6 17:57
天灾不是神制造的, 是昏君和恶魔残害众生诋毁神后奴民不自省而被惩罚的后果.

ok，你的意思是一些“昏君和恶魔残害众生诋毁神”的人，因为邪恶，所以神利用天灾来把所有关系和没关系的人都杀 了？我不知道你的所谓圣经是怎么正义化这些行为的，在现代社会我们管这个叫种族屠杀，是最严重的罪恶。对没错，你的神犯了最严重的罪恶。

那神怎么不只杀几个里说的“昏君”和几个邪恶的人？

那神怎么不用他无上的能力来挽救众生，却任由天灾来杀害他的子民？还有，除了天灾，那个清单里面有很大一部分是神亲自动手杀的，里面包括了无数的婴儿。

lzhizhao

carter 发表于 2014-7-6 18:02
你去问神吧, 我不是上帝回答不了你.

既然你没有办法证明神不邪恶，那你为什么相信神？为什么在众多证据证明你的所谓神是邪恶和残暴无比时，你还要追随他？

lzhizhao

鹬鸵圣者 发表于 2014-7-6 16:53
有些时候你如果能够针对一个问题多思考一会，就不会有那么多问题了。
无奈，你的目的性强，却逻辑性弱。 ...

可惜啊，鸵鸟圣者又一次留下一堆疑问后把头埋沙堆里了。

lzhizhao

carter 发表于 2014-7-6 18:52
因为神明保我的祖先和家人平安喜乐, 也能令世人安心多福.

你怎么证明是他保佑你的，不是警察？你怎么知道因为有了他，世人安心多福而不是战祸连连？有了他，为什么非洲的儿童被饥饿和疟疾所折磨至死，他做了什么？

lzhizhao

carter 发表于 2014-7-6 18:59
因我有灵性能查觉, 没良知信仰的人是无感的...失陪啦, 别水了T的造谣帖啊.

你的意思是，只有你们有宗教背景的人才是有良知的，别人都没有？你怎么知道你所谓的灵性和察觉不是你的神经病和错觉？

lzhizhao

carter 发表于 2014-7-6 19:10
因为只有神经病的会自以为神而再三倡导反宗教.

对，历史上自称为神的人是谁？反对其他宗教，屠杀异教徒的是什么人干的？

lzhizhao

carter 发表于 2014-7-6 19:10
因为只有神经病的会自以为神而再三倡导反宗教.

“因我有灵性能查觉, 没良知信仰的人是无感的”你还没有回答：只有你们有宗教背景的人才是有良知的？

lzhizhao

carter 发表于 2014-7-6 19:10
因为只有神经病的会自以为神而再三倡导反宗教.

还有个问题：信仰=良知？

lychee

lzhizhao 发表于 2014-7-6 19:21
还有个问题：信仰=良知？

你跟Q哥讲个毛逻辑……
太看不起人家了…人家的思维早就超逻辑了…

就像上帝…
顺我者昌逆我者亡哇……

sky-horse

masterq 发表于 2014-7-6 17:47
老Q

周末了,都歇了吧,政治,宗教,永遠沒有結果的話題,人人心中都有一把尺,爭什么呢?你不覺得煩嗎?

图帝，这娜妹妹唱的到底是哪一出呀？？？？

lzhizhao

lychee 发表于 2014-7-6 21:36
你跟Q哥讲个毛逻辑……
太看不起人家了…人家的思维早就超逻辑了…

Q哥跟鸵鸟圣者一样，虽然不讲逻辑，但是他们心里他们是最有逻辑的。

masterq

sky-horse 发表于 2014-7-6 21:41
图帝，这娜妹妹唱的到底是哪一出呀？？？？

不知道，應該是說同人網吧，從來不去，who cares,煩死了！

lzhizhao

鹬鸵圣者 发表于 2014-7-6 16:53
有些时候你如果能够针对一个问题多思考一会，就不会有那么多问题了。
无奈，你的目的性强，却逻辑性弱。 ...

鸵鸟圣者？