传说朝鲜要打棒子了？

langyun

留园魔王 发表于 2013-4-16 09:20
你连数据都说不出来，可见网上的一点不可信，网上谣传多，你还是脚踏实地，看看双方纪念碑上的数字吧，毕 ...

网友，我就知道你不敢上网查数据 ：P

“可见网上的一点不可信，网上谣传多” 这句话说对了。你的资料来自铁血网对吧？ 你就不会先求证一下。

“看看双方纪念碑上的数字吧，毕竟纪念碑的数字不是假的，名单都在” 哪一个纪念碑上写过‘联合国军死了62万，中国牺牲18万’了？你找得出来的话，我给你汇100刀；找不出来，你在这里认个错就行。好不好？

其实你用脑想一想就知道，美国的阵亡将士纪念碑会写上联合国军死了62万这样的数字吗？何况当年参战的联合国军总数也就60万左右，会死了62万？这样加上负伤的人数，联合国军岂不是要被全迁几次才行？ 哈哈。

According to the data from the U.S. Department of Defense, the United States suffered 33,686 battle deaths, along with 2,830 non-battle deaths during the Korean War and 8,176 missing in action.[232] South Korea reported some 373,599 civilian and 137,899 military deaths.[9] Western sources estimate the PVA suffered about 400,000 killed and 486,000 wounded, while the KPA suffered 215,000 killed and 303,000 wounded.[20]

Data from official Chinese sources, on the other hand, reported that the PVA had suffered 114,000 battle deaths, 34,000 non-battle deaths, 340,000 wounded, 7,600 missing and 21,400 captured during the war. Among those captured, about 14,000 defected to Taiwan while the other 7,110 were repatriated to China.[233] Chinese sources also reported that North Korea had suffered 290,000 casualties, 90,000 captured and a "large" number of civilian deaths.[233] In return, the Chinese and North Koreans estimated that about 390,000 soldiers from United States, 660,000 soldiers from South Korea and 29,000 other UN soldiers were "eliminated" from the battlefield.[233]

langyun

留园魔王 发表于 2013-4-16 09:24
中国的战术叫穿插包抄，各个击破，集中优势兵力包围一个吃一个。总体战场上用的兵，跟敌人差不多，但因为 ...

网友，你大概还不知道韩战后期是谁占上风，又是谁急着要签停战协议吧？ 还‘漫山遍野的志愿军’呢，躺着的吧？！

说到国共内战，共军不是还有个绝招吗，就是冲锋时让老百姓排在前头，厉害啊。你怎么不提啊。

至于输赢，你说共军要是没有外国势力支持，能赢吗？你以为单凭人海战术就万能啊。

langyun

留园魔王 发表于 2013-4-16 11:59
三张硬图抽你的嘴巴子，我说过，信谣言的人，往往是不愿意相信真相的人，而不是真的脑残。你就是这 ...

先别太兴奋。你的图片是铁血网的，这个不能算是中立可靠的网站吧？

既然说的是美国伤亡人数，我们还是看看更可靠的数据吧。这是 the U.S. Department of Defense 的数据：

According to the data from the U.S. Department of Defense, the United States suffered 33,686 battle deaths, along with 2,830 non-battle deaths during the Korean War and 8,176 missing in action.[232] South Korea reported some 373,599 civilian and 137,899 military deaths.[9] Western sources estimate the PVA suffered about 400,000 killed and 486,000 wounded, while the KPA suffered 215,000 killed and 303,000 wounded.[20]

skxf

三胖惨了，老美要开打了，

珍珠岛，911，今天，为什么上帝总给老美这么多完美的借口呢，还是说。。。。。

langyun

留园魔王 发表于 2013-4-16 12:04
是啊，志愿军死了18万，放倒62万联合国军，打完仗60年都不敢提，叫被遗忘的战争，二战越战题材的电影层出 ...

不敢提？这是你自己说的。在美国有关韩战的文献资料多了去。

langyun

留园魔王 发表于 2013-4-16 12:04
是啊，志愿军死了18万，放倒62万联合国军，打完仗60年都不敢提，叫被遗忘的战争，二战越战题材的电影层出 ...

网友，你如果肯上网查一下当年联合国军队的参战人数，就会发现总数也就60万左右。要放到‘死亡60万’，以伤亡比例3：1算，联合国军可就要被消灭几次了，可能吗？ 哈哈。

各国派兵及伤亡情况各国派遣军力及伤亡列表
国家 参战军力 阵亡 负伤 失踪及被俘
美国 480,000 54,246 92,134 8,176人失踪
7,245人被俘
英国 63,000 1,109 2,674 1,060
加拿大 26,791 516 1,042 2
澳大利亚 17,000 339 1,200  
菲律宾 7,430 112   
土耳其 5,455 721 2,111 168人失踪
216人被俘
荷兰 3,972 123   
法国 3,421 300   
希腊 2,163 194 459  
新西兰 1,389 33   
泰国 1,273 129 1,139 5
埃塞俄比亚 1,271   
哥伦比亚 1,068 163 448 2人失踪
28人被俘
比利时 900 101 478 5
南非 826 28  8
卢森堡 44 2

langyun

留园魔王 发表于 2013-4-16 18:45
铁血只是引用，照片是美国，你自己去美国就能看到。相反，你引用的数据虽然是所谓的中立网站，但无任何可 ...

网友，你忘了我们是活在IT时代？

美国国防部网站的军史资料不是可靠来源、不比你从铁血网找来的照片更可信？网友，做人不能太固执吧？

那我们就从另一个角度看这些数据吧。130楼的数据是国内网站的，你可以接受吗？不信的话你不妨百度一下，当年联合国军的军队总数也就是60来万人。有可能战死62万吗？

美国国防部的连接 http://www.history.army.mil/books/AMH-V2/AMH%20V2/chapter8.htm#b6

Thirty-seven months of fighting had exacted a high toll. South Korea had lost over 187,000 soldiers dead, an estimated 30,000 missing, and about 429,000 wounded. South Korea’s civilians also had suffered greatly: estimates of the dead and missing range from 500,000 to 1 million. Up to 1.5 million North Korean soldiers and civilians died in the war. Estimates for Chinese dead and missing range from 600,000 to 800,000. Non-American members of the UNC forces lost a total of 3,063 dead and missing and a further 11,817 wounded. American losses from hostile action totaled 137,025: 33,741 killed and 103,284 wounded. Another 2,835 died from nonhostile causes. Of the dead, the remains of over 8,000 have yet to be recovered. The U.S. Army bore the brunt of American losses: 27,731 killed; 2,125 dead from nonhostile causes; and 77,596 wounded. Of the Army’s dead, the remains of over 6,000 have yet to be recovered.