新西蘭最自豪的

xiaoxiaoBB

http://nzclouds.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=15356
這是去年的外債公佈

S2000

xiaoxiaoBB 发表于 2012-11-16 09:59
我們白交差不多二十巴仙的税金，來養這堆垃圾，剛出來的新聞，又説修路還欠數億，要加收汽油税，哈哈

当你交税养他们的时候，你已经比他们大多数过的要好了。 你生活在别人的国家，你不出一份力养他们，难道让他们都去死？

邱索子

S2000 发表于 2012-11-16 18:53
当你交税养他们的时候，你已经比他们大多数过的要好了。 你生活在别人的国家，你不出一份力养他们，难道让 ...

lz一看就是没交过什么税，要不然怎么一交税反映这么激烈。

交税不是养别人，是支撑一个国家的保障制度，当有一天他或他们出现问题的时候，他或他们也需要这个保障制度，不是你说的那些什么到别人国家要出力养他们，这个＂他们＂里面有一天也会包括你我他

anzac_corp

其实天朝的税比新西兰高得多，而且项目繁复，用途则完全不透明。

新西兰的税在OECD国家中算中等偏低，税制很简单易懂，而且因为政府清廉，税金回馈到社会的比例较高。

养几个毛毛，要比养一大群贪官污吏要便宜很多了。

jjochn

查了一下moriori，靠，欧洲人武装和运送毛利人去吧人家给灭族了啊！

jjochn

On 19 November 1835, the Rodney, a chartered European ship, arrived carrying 500 Maori armed with guns, clubs and axes, followed by another ship with 400 more Maori on 5 December 1835. They proceeded to enslave some Moriori and kill and cannibalise others. "Parties of warriors armed with muskets, clubs and tomahawks, led by their chiefs, walked through Moriori tribal territories and settlements without warning, permission or greeting. If the districts were wanted by the invaders, they curtly informed the inhabitants that their land had been taken and the Moriori living there were now vassals."[10]

A council of Moriori elders was convened at the settlement called Te Awapatiki. Despite knowing of the Māori predilection for killing and eating the conquered, and despite the admonition by some of the elder chiefs that the principle of Nunuku was not appropriate now, two chiefs — Tapata and Torea — declared that "the law of Nunuku was not a strategy for survival, to be varied as conditions changed; it was a moral imperative."[11] A Moriori survivor recalled : "[The Maori] commenced to kill us like sheep.... [We] were terrified, fled to the bush, concealed ourselves in holes underground, and in any place to escape our enemies. It was of no avail; we were discovered and killed - men, women and children indiscriminately." A Maori conqueror explained, "We took possession... in accordance with our customs and we caught all the people. Not one escaped....." [12]

After the invasion, Moriori were forbidden to marry Moriori, or to have children with each other. All became slaves of the Ngati Tama and Ngati Mutunga invaders. Many Moriori women had children by their Maori masters. A small number of Moriori women eventually married either Maori or European men. Some were taken from the Chathams and never returned. Only 101 Moriori out of a population of about 2,000 were left alive by 1862 (Kopel et al., 2003). Although the last Moriori of unmixed ancestry, Tommy Solomon,[13] died in 1933 there are several thousand mixed ancestry Moriori alive today.

anzac_corp

jjochn 发表于 2012-11-16 22:25
查了一下moriori，靠，欧洲人武装和运送毛利人去吧人家给灭族了啊！

毛利人现在也没有纯种的了，难道可以说毛利人也已经被灭族了？

靓丽2008

xiaoxiaoBB 发表于 2012-11-16 09:05
當然，nz人口有多少？相比犯罪率又多少？你們來了nz多久？沒有我們納稅人的貢獻，相信這裡還是tmd狗不拉屎， ...

上世纪七十年代，新西兰比现在富的多，其富裕程度在全球应该是前五位吧。不知道现在很多在这坛里讲大话的人那时候在哪里呢，当时就在新西兰？当时就开始给新西兰做贡献了？

靓丽2008

邱索子 发表于 2012-11-16 09:20
不只是这个本鸟国家，lz可以去美国澳洲看看，特别是澳洲岛毛不多，纽西兰岛毛干的这些事那边全都有人干而且 ...

很赞同这一观点：

“纽西兰的福利不是靠中国人纳税支撑的，是全体纽西兰人，中国人对此的反感远高于全体起平均水平。”

jjochn

anzac_corp 发表于 2012-11-16 22:36
毛利人现在也没有纯种的了，难道可以说毛利人也已经被灭族了？

没有人拿枪拿矛去杀他们去捉他们做奴隶啊。纯种的当然还有，而且肯定比maoriori多呢