周一被kiwi男同事动手动脚。女上班族们，你们有过类似经历吗？

韵儿

just gossip this with other colleagues, and say you felt he was crossing the line but maybe he didn't mean to and you're not going to take it further. then just wait and see what happens hehe.

supercrazy184

just gossip this with other colleagues, and say you felt he was crossing the line but maybe he didn't mean to and you're not going to take it further. then just wait and see what happens hehe.
韵儿 发表于 2011-9-5 21:32

Bad idea. 这种事发生以后应该直接找HR(大公司）或是老板谈，而不是和同事闲聊。如果LZ可以把自己放到受害者的位置上，像公司complain, 这个洋人肯定完蛋。关键是看LZ有没有这个勇气stand up for yourself.

前面有人说没有证据还是忍了算了。实际上Sexual harrasment 很少有缺凿的证据。判断事情的真实性很多是取决了当事人对于事情发生时的描述是否属实还有受害人是否有陷害肇事人的动机。LZ当来到公司不可能和这个洋人有什么大矛盾，而且事情发生当天确实是两人有独处的机会。所以我觉得只要LZ能把当时的情形很详细和具体和写出来，那个洋人肯定玩完。

LZ你要考虑到如果你现在忍了，第一，他以后还有这样的机会还会不会又做。 第二， 因为你这次拒绝了他的sexual advancement, 他是否会恼怒进而给你小鞋穿。第三，如果你什么都不做，他会觉得这么做也没什么后果，他以后肯定还会对其他女同事做同样的事。以后公司又有新人，他肯定会估计从施。你希望这样的事再发生到其他女同事身上吗？

新西兰不是中国，在职场几乎都是zero tolerance for sexual harrasment。 LZ你所经历的不仅仅是轻度的verbal harrasment.你一定要据理力争，别让那些洋人觉得咱华人好欺负。

Tender

我觉得整件事情LZ本人占了很大的一部分责任!一开始那洋鬼摸你的时候你就应该表示反感或者拒绝的.你一再"忍让",只会让他想歪......或者,LZ自己也喜欢那个洋鬼???

韵儿

93# supercrazy184
i dont think lz want to take it that far, and its possible to have a bad outcome if she does take it that far. but talking about it with other colleague in an informal manner can raise awareness about this situation and have people to back her up if she ever do wants to do something about it in the future.

personally i wouldn't do what you said if i was her, and i would tell my colleagues to get their support.

schrodinger

If I were you I will tell her to F off.

sblawyer

just gossip this with other colleagues, and say you felt he was crossing the line but maybe he didn't mean to and you're not going to take it further. then just wait and see what happens hehe.
韵儿 发表于 2011-9-5 21:32

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不是什么好主意， 试想一下如果你是她的同事听到这样的gossiop 会怎么想， 然后怎么回应她？ 如果男的从来没问题， 人家会怎么猜测新来的女同事？ 退一步，即使同情她， 然后对整件事有什么帮助。

sblawyer

93# supercrazy184  
i dont think lz want to take it that far, and its possible to have a bad outcome if she does take it that far. but talking about it with other colleague in an informal manner can ...
韵儿 发表于 2011-9-6 21:32

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How can they support her? say she is new, the other guy been working for years.

Icey-cube

有的kiwi是很贱的。。。鄙视他们

韵儿

98# sblawyer
i guess you don't know the power of women. i don't want to get into any argument, lz wanted suggestions, i offered mine.

2kikocheetah

应该直接跟他说, 这种行为让你很不舒服, 让他跟你保持距离, 办公室骚扰是很严重的行为, 你直接说了他应该会收敛.
米虫宝宝 发表于 2011-9-1 17:32

完全赞同  老外很嚣张啊

陶瓷小兔

楼主,你直接拒绝他就对了.洋人都这样,他发现你不喜欢,就不会再骚扰你了.
以后一定避免单独接触,就算一定要单独接触也要离得远点,他其实很聪明的,看你没反应自己也不会再尝试什么了.以后反正大家同事在一起的时候就正常的说说笑笑,别让别人看出来有不一样.但是他一旦骚扰你你就直接跟他说,他不会,也不敢怎么样
还有就是楼上说得对,千万不能告诉任何同事,同事会告诉其他同事,然后老板就知道了,那你就很麻烦了

阿戴

这个事件足够让他丢饭碗

blue511

洋人也是人 别想得太完美 时刻保护自己

nzreseller

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masterq 发表于 2011-9-1 18:39

漫画画的真好。

西瓜

你忍气吞声会让那人觉得你好欺负.应该跟你老板知会一声.这跟你保不保的住你的工作没关系.

KKO

我觉得整件事情LZ本人占了很大的一部分责任!一开始那洋鬼摸你的时候你就应该表示反感或者拒绝的.你一再"忍让",只会让他想歪......或者,LZ自己也喜欢那个洋鬼???
Tender 发表于 2011-9-6 20:16

同意。。。。。。。。。。。。