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[说地] North Shore bids to be an independent nation [复制链接]

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本帖最后由 bungyjumping999 于 2018-5-31 09:44 编辑

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national ... ependent-city-state

中文文章 : http://news.skykiwi.com/na/zh/2018-05-29/397645.shtml


North shore is about the size of singapore with population of about 300,000.

If you want to stir things up, this is an independent bid to make it a nation on its own.

Give your signature if you support the bid, it needs 400,000 signatures to call for a referendum.

A referendum similar to BREXIT will see North Shore breaking away from NZ. A passport will be needed if South Auckland people want to enter North Shore Independent State.


" we will make north shore great, a technology based nation "

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30/5/2018: The weather is freezing cold outside, i decided to have an active discussion on what it takes to be a City State, taking a few countries as points of reference, namely Singapore, Monaco, Vetican, Tax haven island ( Panama), the work ethics and the Spirit of Capitalism in Hong Kong and Taiwan.

When using those countries as points of reference in discussing North Shore Independent State (NSIS), the discussion slowly tune towards the following issues:

- on tax structures: how low tax regime would end up motivate the people and the nation to excel rather than punishing them for the hard work they produce.
- Social policy on compulsory saving and employer contribution and retirement.
- Ageing and Multi culture based retirement communal villages and partly government funded policy in elderly care. Age with dignity/ respect.
- foreign investment ( how Global Head Quarter can set a base in North Shore and capitalising on its human Capital), gradual taxation on foreign companies to encourage them setting a base and creating employment opportunities.
-how quality immigration and concept of meritocracy should be a centre of focus over popular culture in the making of city State.

- Location of CBD and light rails and building of intelligent city; how the city is interconnected with the light rail link.
- Eco and environmental friendly city

- Developing Technology hub to be a "silicon valley of the Pacific"; start up, enterprenuership; potential for financial hub  (banking secrecy ; parking of assets and money)and "swisszerland of the pacific". Investors friendly regulations and compliance.

- Zero Tolerance to crime and rule of law to be of paramout priority for the City State and among other issues in the form of questions and answers.

This is a hypothetical situation, of course some people take it quite seriously and some take it with sense of humours...... Whatever it is and whoever you are, you are welcome to participate, to mock, to LOL and most of all have fun.  

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北岸要独立的节奏   
我的精神分裂症治好了,现在我和我都很好

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哈哈。。。货币是NS$?
Disclaimer: 本老鼠发的帖子内容都是在我的理解范围内的。没有误导网友的意思。如果是读者自己误解,不是本老鼠的责任。
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早该如此~~~~~

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护法们又回来了!
曾经的肾6, 现在还值多少钱…

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那女的是脑袋进水了, 以Rich chinese 在北岸的比例, 独立了总理也不是由她来当

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发表于 2018-5-30 10:40:07 |只看该作者 微信分享
四百万人养国会议员已经太贵了,现在竟然有人想三十万人也独立养那许多国会议员

我在想啥时候,新西兰和澳大利亚和美国合并那该多好啊

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发表于 2018-5-30 10:43:58 来自手机 |只看该作者 微信分享
这是一盘大棋,独立了以后搞个教皇啥的,梵蒂冈据说巨有钱。

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DDD888 发表于 2018-5-30 09:40
四百万人养国会议员已经太贵了,现在竟然有人想三十万人也独立养那许多国会议员

我在想啥时候,新西兰和澳 ...

Don't think too far, the model will not be the same as Auckland.

It will be a rich nation with a prime minister and 5 ministers ( small group will do), model can be like Monoco, targeting rich people and where they can park the money in North Shore.

The nation has potential to grow to 3 million population as a financial,medical  and technologies hubs

People who hold property now in north shore will see the increase in price if it becomes an independent nation.

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楼主  嗯,1号18号高速还是NZ的,北岸人民上高速还要签证,想想都兴奋。  详情 回复 发表于 2018-5-30 15:34:31

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Chatbox 发表于 2018-5-30 09:43
这是一盘大棋,独立了以后搞个教皇啥的,梵蒂冈据说巨有钱。

搓背教?
曾经的肾6, 现在还值多少钱…

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NewLynnHse 发表于 2018-5-30 08:09
哈哈。。。货币是NS$?

It will be Cyber currency, no physical money is needed. Only need it may be if you go to Auckland or Aussie to spend.

haha......

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Chatbox 发表于 2018-5-30 09:43
这是一盘大棋,独立了以后搞个教皇啥的,梵蒂冈据说巨有钱。

Singapore started with 200,000 population.

Look at hongkong, Taiwan, they were fishing villages before.

History speaks for itself

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tiannz 发表于 2018-5-30 09:45
搓背教?

没办法,教皇也有难处嘛,好租让人搓,不好租给人搓呗。总之巨有钱就好哈哈哈。

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发表于 2018-5-30 10:56:49 |只看该作者 微信分享
哈哈上次我说北岸共和国要在大桥上设卡查签证,还真有人打算干?

我觉得是这人去年没选上MP,现在找辙做点夸张动作博眼球,为下届当选做准备。北岸又不是加州,起码得联合Rodney。

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房奴甲 发表于 2018-5-30 09:56
哈哈上次我说北岸共和国要在大桥上设卡查签证,还真有人打算干?

我觉得是这人去年没选上MP,现在找辙做点 ...

Rodney will be renamed and part of north shore. The size is about right for a nation.

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Size of Singapore but the location is way off the map ... they really need to think before talk ....
"Love all, trust a few and do wrong to none."

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本帖最后由 bungyjumping999 于 2018-5-30 10:09 编辑
MR2(SW20) 发表于 2018-5-30 10:03
Size of Singapore but the location is way off the map ... they really need to think before talk .... ...

It will be a safe haven.


politically neutral like swisszerland. People can park their assets and money here, it will be internationally attractive.

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bungyjumping999 发表于 2018-5-30 10:08
It will be a safe haven.

确实。其实是个好主意,最好不给南区人发签证,但是去南区能免签?

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房奴甲 发表于 2018-5-30 10:09
确实。其实是个好主意,最好不给南区人发签证,但是去南区能免签?

i think it is a workable thing, i will join in the signature and stir things up and join the "NorthXIT campaign"......... haha.

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bungyjumping999 发表于 2018-5-30 10:08
It will be a safe haven.

with a population of 300,000 and poor urban infrastructure, how is it supposed to financially support the normal government operation and administration? Assuming there will be no tax of the assets and monetary "parked" there....otherwise, the attraction would be just a dream, wouldn't it.
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MR2(SW20) 发表于 2018-5-30 10:17
with a population of 300,000 and poor urban infrastructure, how is it supposed to financially supp ...

没事,卖签证就行。一个PR一百万吧。。。。。。。

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本帖最后由 bungyjumping999 于 2018-5-30 10:28 编辑
MR2(SW20) 发表于 2018-5-30 10:17
with a population of 300,000 and poor urban infrastructure, how is it supposed to financially supp ...

It will support immigration.

50% of singapore population are made of immigrants.
first $100,000 pe annum income tax free.

Then encourage Internation Corps to set up head office here with tax incentives....
The infrastructure can easily be built with light rail connecting each other and with minimal use of cars.

Anyone who need to buy a car will have to pay some permit fee ( like the one used in singapore). It will be handy if they need to drive to Auckland.

most of the houses in Northcote and northcote points will be acquired as new CBD, mirroring Auckland

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bungyjumping999 发表于 2018-5-30 10:26
It will support immigration.

50% of singapore population are made of immigrants.

真美好,马上行动吧给她投票!哈哈!

问题是不可能。如果能成功,对本地居民来说肯定有利。

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本帖最后由 bungyjumping999 于 2018-5-30 10:44 编辑
房奴甲 发表于 2018-5-30 10:26
没事,卖签证就行。一个PR一百万吧。。。。。。。

The next phase will be " silicon valley of Pacific"

No need to sell PR, the good international companies will want to set up offices here for tax incentives.... The nation will tax them gradually over a period of time ( say over a period of 10 yrs). It will provide job opportunities for North shore citizens /PR.

In no time, the population in North shore will grow to 1-2 million, you will see construction boom and infrastructure boom that you never seen before.

Most of the workers from Auckland will flood to North shore to work. Grant them daily passes to come to work is probably okay.... there will be special buses to send them off the bridge which is an immigration check-point.

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bungyjumping999 发表于 2018-5-30 10:26
It will support immigration.

50% of singapore population are made of immigrants.

Ar ha ... I got you ... basically just copy Singapore completely from top to bottom. It may work but you see there is one fundamental part missing here, it took years for Singapore to be position where it is now despite the culture and geo-location difference. Will North shore be able to survive the shock caused by the decision like this is still a question mark. More importantly, are residents willing to take such risk .....  

Well, what do I know, right, I'm not even a resident of North Shore ....
"Love all, trust a few and do wrong to none."

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bungyjumping999 发表于 2018-5-30 10:26
It will support immigration.

50% of singapore population are made of immigrants.

Ar ha ... I got you ... basically just copy Singapore completely from top to bottom. It may work but you see there is one fundamental part missing here, it took years for Singapore to be position where it is now despite the culture and geo-location difference. Will North shore be able to survive the shock caused by the decision like this is still a question mark. More importantly, are residents willing to take such risk .....  

Well, what do I know, right, I'm not even a resident of North Shore ....
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这个要支持!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It will be a safe haven.



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MR2(SW20) 发表于 2018-5-30 11:01
Ar ha ... I got you ... basically just copy Singapore completely from top to bottom. It may work b ...

No worries, you will soon want to be a North Shore Resident with all these possibilities. haha..........

1) It will be Zero tolerant to Crime. As the area is small, there will be police petroling 24 hours.

2) If Up North people want to join the North Shore Independent Nation, they will be encouraged to join. Up north will be designed with good retirement villages with good eco friendly system. Residents will plant their own fruits, vegetable. Different races will be encourage to submit their ideas and make the retirement villages accessible to all races and conforming to their life style. The health care is paramout and people will need some respect for the old age.

3) A scheme like "saving for old age (SOA)" will be implemented and compulsory contribution: 10% of your salary and 10% from employer. So you save 20% a month, it will go to your retirement savings under the sovereign fund.
The sovereign Fund will have machinenary to invest in local and overseas companies for the savers.




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哈哈。。。货币是NS$?

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