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标题: 好了，得到通知郑州明天开始全城封六天，我也要去感恩了，到时和大家汇报情况 [打印本页]

作者: Clark1129 时间: 2022-5-3 23:33:08 标题: 好了，得到通知郑州明天开始全城封六天，我也要去感恩了，到时和大家汇报情况

就这样吧，昨天郑州诞生超级跑男一名，半个月时间把郑州跑了个遍，刚得到通知，明日起全市封六天，我准备去感恩了，大家等我鉴证人定胜天的伟大时刻

作者: countertenor 时间: 2022-5-3 23:38:57

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作者: 一路向南 时间: 2022-5-4 00:32:59

说封六天不得按五倍打底一个月起跳算吗

作者: 图帝@-@ 时间: 2022-5-4 00:33:34

每48小時做一次核酸檢測，拒不合作，斷水斷電！

作者: bintoo 时间: 2022-5-4 01:03:12

赶快囤粮，别说国内，我这里都常备两个月以上的干粮。

作者: Clark1129 时间: 2022-5-4 01:17:56

屯粮他二大爷，七点通知，十二点封城，除了感恩，没其他想法

作者: bondbunny 时间: 2022-5-4 03:01:40

真是没完没了。明年复明年，明年回国看看的计划不知道能不能实现。

作者: pategao 时间: 2022-5-4 07:43:03

Clark1129 发表于 2022-5-4 00:17
屯粮他二大爷，七点通知，十二点封城，除了感恩，没其他想法

老乡还在郑州吗？你不是回去很久了啊

作者: 留下足迹 时间: 2022-5-4 08:13:19

早跟你们说了
这回全国巡回
上演是必须哒

作者: 太极宗师001 时间: 2022-5-4 08:49:35

省市一级领导现在都怕犯错误，只能紧跟上面的政策。

作者: minigun 时间: 2022-5-4 09:03:11

或早或晚一个都落不下

作者: 119900 时间: 2022-5-4 09:56:58

好的。。。

作者: hj_win_1 时间: 2022-5-4 11:21:27

就看有没有哪个城市掉链子了。。。掉链子那就GG躺平了

作者: lxz1990 时间: 2022-5-4 12:27:52

克版趁着还能润赶快润吧

作者: Clark1129 时间: 2022-5-4 13:15:15

昨天晚上，基本全郑州的超市，菜店都被扫荡一空，看来不管官方如何强调物资保证供应，不要恐慌，老百姓已经被上海那波吓怕了，毕竟上海就是自信满满的对市民说最多封五天，信的全gg了

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作者: 太极宗师001 时间: 2022-5-4 15:34:48

看到一个评论：
香港老百姓闹的时候，你说他们是暴民；
上海老百姓叫苦的时候，你说他们矫情，
现在轮到郑州了，下一个是谁？
轮到自己头上，才理解了香港人和上海人，，，

作者: ctai010 时间: 2022-5-4 16:00:00

Clark1129 发表于 2022-5-4 12:15
昨天晚上，基本全郑州的超市，菜店都被扫荡一空，看来不管官方如何强调物资保证供应，不要恐慌，老百姓已经 ...

是我我也死命採購
(如果我來得及採購...)
官方說甚麼都沒用

作者: franklehuang 时间: 2022-5-4 16:30:30

全国巡回演习。邻里互助，度过难关。

作者: bintoo 时间: 2022-5-4 21:54:26

平时就应该囤好起码两个月的干粮啦，例如白米，干面条，饼干等等，再适当囤点罐头。

别说国内，新西兰政府现在躺平了我也信不过。

作者: happyhao 时间: 2022-5-5 22:49:53

哎呀。。不知道说什么好。。祝愿平安吧。。。

作者: 图帝@-@ 时间: 2022-5-5 22:59:11

happyhao 发表于 2022-5-5 21:49
哎呀。。不知道说什么好。。祝愿平安吧。。。

二天未见人，可能已经被抓进方舱医院了。

作者: 老北 时间: 2022-5-6 10:33:10

bintoo 发表于 2022-5-4 16:54
平时就应该囤好起码两个月的干粮啦，例如白米，干面条，饼干等等，再适当囤点罐头。

别说国内，新西兰政府 ...

两个月太少了

至少半年吧

有条件的一年最好

战备呀！

作者: Clark1129 时间: 2022-5-6 13:26:49

原计划口号一周内控制住，结果今天通知全市防控等级全部飙升，新增n个封控区，估计核酸结果确诊病例爆发式增长了，一星期估计要朝一个月发展了

继续去感恩了

作者: 翁塞.行.在路上 时间: 2022-5-6 14:47:17

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Clark1129 发表于 2022-5-6 12:26
原计划口号一周内控制住，结果今天通知全市防控等级全部飙升，新增n个封控区，估计核酸结果确诊病例爆发式 ...

看来，他要输了...

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作者: Clark1129 时间: 2022-5-7 15:34:17

翁塞.行.在路上发表于 2022-5-6 13:47
看来，他要输了...

暂时我家附近嗨没有出现混乱以及断粮，不过情况很不乐观，已经全面扩散，一周内动态清零基本不可能

作者: 狂奔的蜗牛!!! 时间: 2022-5-7 15:46:21

本来以为上海这事一闹，可能会慢慢的变成和病毒共存。没想到常委会定调要坚持动态清零，看样子国内的封城还要持续一段时间。

自己多注意吧，不光吃的，常用药也要准备一些，以备不时之需了。

作者: Clark1129 时间: 2022-5-7 16:32:14

狂奔的蜗牛!!! 发表于 2022-5-7 14:46
本来以为上海这事一闹，可能会慢慢的变成和病毒共存。没想到常委会定调要坚持动态清零，看样子国内的封城还 ...

闹腾吧，等国家财政地方财政，经济民生全给弄崩了，再继续吹嘘吧

作者: 狂奔的蜗牛!!! 时间: 2022-5-7 19:54:43

Clark1129 发表于 2022-5-7 15:32
闹腾吧，等国家财政地方财政，经济民生全给弄崩了，再继续吹嘘吧

哎，现在也只能这样了。希望过几天政策可能又有修改吧。中国人民不容易。

作者: 大海55 时间: 2022-5-8 09:11:18

人民的忍耐能力还是很强的没关系习惯就好了都活着

作者: Clark1129 时间: 2022-5-8 14:31:37

大海55 发表于 2022-5-8 08:11
人民的忍耐能力还是很强的没关系习惯就好了都活着

不忍，不感恩，还能怎样

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作者: 261874939 时间: 2022-5-10 03:34:18

好的我知道了

作者: Clark1129 时间: 2022-5-10 13:57:15

今日已经到达官方最初的一周内控制的期限，不巧的是，仍然处于上升期，而且还有新增病例出现在新小区

作者: maomao968 时间: 2022-5-10 14:49:29

Clark1129 发表于 2022-5-10 12:57
今日已经到达官方最初的一周内控制的期限，不巧的是，仍然处于上升期，而且还有新增病例出现在新小区 ...

先制定一个小目标，大家有个奔头。
到时候，再看目标能不能达成，再指定新目标
没什么错

作者: 汤姆猫杰瑞鼠 时间: 2022-5-10 22:58:37

看到新闻了，现在郑州市已经是全面扩散的态势了，奥密克戎清零，已经完全不可能

作者: 大海55 时间: 2022-5-11 03:41:36

很困惑，最后的结局会咋样，

作者: Quad 时间: 2022-5-11 10:20:53

Clark1129 发表于 2022-5-10 12:57
今日已经到达官方最初的一周内控制的期限，不巧的是，仍然处于上升期，而且还有新增病例出现在新小区 ...

https://www.piie.com/blogs/realt ... -and-economic-costs

"Zero-COVID" in Shanghai comes at high social and economic costs
Tianlei Huang (PIIE)
April 15, 2022 12:00 PM
Image credit: REUTERS/Xihao Jiang
At a time when the rest of the world has decided to live with the coronavirus, China is sticking to its zero-COVID-19 policy, trying to eliminate the disease at virtually all costs. Shanghai has been under complete lockdown for half a month, as the highly transmissible Omicron variant is contributing to the country's worst COVID-19 outbreak since the initial Wuhan outbreak in early 2020. Chinese economists previously estimated a lockdown of this length would cost the country as much as 4 percent of national real income. If that estimate holds, the Chinese government cannot hope to make its already ambitious 5.5 percent growth target for 2022 without extra stimulus.

China could have used this latest outbreak as an opportunity to revise its zero-COVID-19 policy but has instead chosen to stick with mass testing and isolation regardless of the enormous social and economic costs. There is now growing discontent among the 25 million residents in Shanghai over how the outbreak and the lockdown are being handled. People are running out of food and food prices are skyrocketing. Deaths from COVID-19 have been rare, but the draconian lockdown measures have led to an increasing number of non-COVID-19 deaths, including a series of incidents in which seriously ill patients died after being denied urgent hospital care. The Shanghai government is facing not only its most severe public health crisis in decades but also an unprecedented crisis of trust.

THE IDEA THAT THE SHANGHAI OUTBREAK COULD TRIGGER CHINA TO GIVE UP "ZERO-COVID" IS AN ILLUSION
The Shanghai and Wuhan outbreaks differ significantly in that the majority of those who have contracted the virus in Shanghai have no or mild symptoms—that is to say, 97 percent of the more than 250,000 residents who have tested positive since March. Moreover, only 9 infected patients who have developed severe symptoms are being treated at hospitals, according to the Shanghai Municipal Health Commission.[1] Zero death from COVID-19 has been reported since March, which may have something to do with the Chinese practice of not identifying deaths of most COVID-19 patients with underlying conditions as deaths from the virus.[2]

The internal frictions among officials over zero-COVID-19 policy and lockdowns were intense in earlier phases of the Shanghai outbreak, but those who advocated taking the outbreak as an opportunity to revise the policy clearly failed to convince the leadership that mass testing and isolation are no longer the most cost-effective solutions serving the best interest of the country. Vice Premier Sun Chunlan of the State Council is now in Shanghai to ensure local officials fully implement the zero-COVID-19 policy, and the party chief in Shanghai now seems marginalized.

The Chinese leadership's caution may stem from the fact that the elderly population has low vaccination rates, and domestically developed inactivated vaccines have low efficacy. While nearly 90 percent of the Chinese population is fully vaccinated, vaccination rates among the elderly are lower: 82 percent for those between 70 and 79 years old, and about 51 percent for those over 80 years old as of mid-March. Shanghai has one of the highest proportions of elderly in the country, with nearly a quarter of its residents aged 60 or older. Given the weakness of China's health infrastructure, giving up "zero-COVID-19" could lead to a surge in hospitalizations among the elderly and overwhelm the medical system.

Moreover, domestically developed inactivated vaccines appear to provide less protection against infection with the Omicron variant than the novel mRNA vaccines developed in the West.[3] Despite repeated calls from public health experts for a quicker approval of foreign-developed mRNA vaccines in China, the Chinese regulator has so far refused to do so. Instead, it has recently approved clinical trials of two mRNA vaccines developed by Chinese companies.

Following the outbreak in Shanghai, cities elsewhere in the country are now taking extra precautions to avoid a similar fate, even in locations where daily new infections only number in the double digits. Some 23 Chinese cities are now under partial or full lockdowns, according to the brokerage firm Nomura, while cities like Guangzhou are now testing all their residents. It looks like zero-COVID-19 is here to stay, at least for a few more months until the 20th National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party is held in the fall.

AN ILL PREPARED MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT AND ITS INCONSISTENT POLICY HAVE TRIGGERED A FOOD CRISIS AND WIDESPREAD PUBLIC OUTCRY
The Shanghai municipal government was obviously ill prepared when it announced a phased lockdown just hours before it went into effect. The day before the lockdown was announced, local health authorities were still telling the press that the city was too important to the national economy and thus a city-wide lockdown would not be considered as costs would be too high.

More than two weeks have gone by since then, and millions of residents in the city have witnessed complete inconsistency in policy. The initial plan was to put the east half of the city, an area referred to as Pudong, under lockdown or what the government calls "static management" for four days, immediately followed by another four-day lockdown of the west half of the city, Puxi. However, as daily infections continued to rise by the day, an indefinite extension of the lockdown was announced on the day when all restrictions were supposed to be lifted. Now entering the third week since all of Pudong was first put under lockdown, daily infections across Shanghai remain as high as over 20,000, and it is unclear when the turning point will occur. Most recently the government said residents living in residential compounds where no infections had been reported in the last 14 days could leave their homes and move around in their neighborhoods, only to reverse course once again and reimpose the stay-at-home order on most neighborhoods. The US State Department is now ordering its Shanghai consulate staff to leave the city.

One result of the protracted lockdown is that residents are running out of food. Shanghai is confronting its most serious food shortage in decades, something one would have never thought would happen in one of the wealthiest cities in China. Prices are rising so fast, especially for fresh produce, that the market regulator has had to intervene to rein in runaway food prices.

What caused the food crisis in Shanghai is not a supply shortage per se, especially as the rest of the country has been sending fresh produce and food to the city every day, but an insufficient delivery workforce and logistical bottlenecks. Given no one can leave their homes or apartment buildings, door delivery is the only option for people to access food and other necessities. But all online grocery platforms, including Meituan, Dingdong, and Alibaba's Hema, are overwhelmed, and their apps are constantly crashing, making it virtually impossible to place orders. Meanwhile, like most of Shanghai's 25 million residents, most delivery workers are confined at home themselves and are also struggling to access food.

Local district governments have sent free food packages to all households, but those are far from enough. Desperate city residents are now resorting to "group-buying," meaning residents in the same residential compound band together to buy groceries in bulk or meals from the same suppliers, which then make deliveries to the same address. "Group-buying" has become a lifeline for residents in Shanghai, especially for the elderly population who are less tech-savvy and do not know how to place online grocery orders on smartphones. Naturally, white collar workers who have to be on their phones all day trying to get deliveries cannot be as productive working from home, which compounds the effects on the economy.

What makes things worse is that Shanghai relies heavily on food supplies from the rest of the country to feed its residents,[4] but local governments in areas neighboring Shanghai, worried about virus transmission in their own jurisdictions, have erected roadblocks, shut highways, and required lorry drivers returning from Shanghai to quarantine for at least two weeks, leaving the domestic logistics chain severely broken.[5] The situation in recent days has improved marginally with the central government now asking local officials to keep highways open.[6]

On top of the food crisis, multiple incidents are sparking widespread public outcry over the government's ill-guided anti-COVID-19 measures. The draconian lockdown measures have led to a number of non-COVID-19 deaths that could have been avoided, including a nurse who died of asthma after being denied treatment from her own hospital.[7] Moreover, COVID-19-positive children were put under quarantine separated from their parents, a policy that was later eased amid widespread public anger, while a pet dog was beaten to death by a health worker after its COVID-19-positive owner who was taken to a quarantine facility had released the dog onto the streets hoping it would survive. The public has responded to these incidents with an outpouring of criticism, exhibiting a severe lack of trust in public institutions.[8]

ECONOMIC COSTS OF THE LOCKDOWNS IN SHANGHAI AND ELSEWHERE IN CHINA ARE HIGH
The production of virtually all goods and services in Shanghai, except in certain industries considered strategically important like semiconductors and financial services, has come to a sudden stop that will undoubtedly result in significant losses of people's livelihoods and to the entire Chinese economy. Results from a recent flash survey conducted by the German Chamber of Commerce in early April show the lockdowns have already significantly disrupted the entire supply chain within China, with over half of German companies' logistics and warehousing completely disrupted or severely impacted by the government's preventive measures, and 40 percent reporting complete disruption or severe impact on upstream supply chain operations due to a lack of raw materials or upstream products.

The private sector, small and micro enterprises, household businesses, and the migrant workforce will be among the hardest hit segments of the economy. In an article published by Caixin last week that was soon removed by government censors, economist James Liang made a cost-benefit analysis over different pandemic preventive approaches, suggesting that with the highly transmissible Omicron variant, the cost of containment is higher than ever, and zero-COVID-19 is no longer a policy that serves the best interest of the country, as it could result in higher unemployment and more people falling back into poverty. A previous study by a group of Chinese economists suggests that a half-month full-scale lockdown in Shanghai would result in a 4 percent loss of the national real income. Given the growth target set by the Chinese government at around 5.5 percent for 2022, which is an ambitious target even without considering the impacts of the latest COVID-19 outbreaks, extra domestic stimulus will be needed if China wants to avoid a sharp slowdown of its economy.

NOTES
1. The unusually high rate of asymptomatic cases among the reported COVID-19 infections is at least partly explained by the less strict diagnostic criteria adopted in Shanghai. In other words, mildly symptomatic cases are included in the asymptomatic tally, according to Reuters.

2. The Wall Street Journal previously reported that the real numbers of infections and deaths in Shanghai may be greater than the official statistics.

3. A recent study on the comparative effectiveness of mRNA and inactivated vaccines in Singapore shows that individuals vaccinated with the mRNA vaccines are less likely to be infected with COVID-19 and develop severe disease than those who received China's Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccines.

4. In 2020, about 80 percent of the food supply in Shanghai was from elsewhere in China.

5. Reportedly some lorry drivers have stayed in their vehicles for up to a month because of the many restrictions on cross-provincial travel that have been in place since before the Shanghai lockdown.

6. On Chinese social media, content about Shanghai's food crisis is being censored.

7. These incidents are mostly reported by family members or coworkers on social media and have yet to be verified. They include at least one dialysis patient who tested positive for COVID-19 and died after several days of being denied access to treatment at any hospitals, a doorman of a residential compound who died from overwork, and a woman who committed suicide after being cyberbullied for paying RMB200 to a delivery worker who helped deliver home-cooked food to her hearing-impaired father living 27 kilometers away in a suburban district.

8. Most recently, Shanghai Dragon Television, the provincial satellite TV station wholly owned by the Shanghai Municipal State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission (SASAC), had to postpone its planned broadcast of a so-called anti-epidemic gala, where a group of celebrities were to perform, due to harsh criticisms and a boycott by the city's residents who asked the TV station and its reporters to focus instead on reporting the hardships people are experiencing and investigating soaring food prices.

作者: kikilulu 时间: 2022-5-11 11:42:36

WHO chief says China's zero-COVID policy not 'sustainable'

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/who-chief-says-chinas-zero-covid-policy-not-sustainable-2022-05-10/

作者: bondbunny 时间: 2022-5-11 16:35:04

kikilulu 发表于 2022-5-11 10:42
WHO chief says China's zero-COVID policy not 'sustainable'

这是国内微博网友的搞笑图

作者: minigun 时间: 2022-5-11 16:45:50

kikilulu 发表于 2022-5-11 10:42
WHO chief says China's zero-COVID policy not 'sustainable'

作者: kikilulu 时间: 2022-5-11 17:01:43

bondbunny 发表于 2022-5-11 15:35
这是国内微博网友的搞笑图

谭书记压力山大啊

作者: keepower 时间: 2022-5-11 18:48:08

今天看了入户消杀视频，只能说FML

作者: Bearonrun 时间: 2022-5-11 19:00:57

我的海运也是在郑州走的，停了一周了，今天客服才确认回复正常。

作者: bintoo 时间: 2022-5-11 19:06:56

keepower 发表于 2022-5-11 17:48
今天看了入户消杀视频，只能说FML

这根本就是文化大革命，破四旧等等新版本。

作者: lxz1990 时间: 2022-5-11 19:42:24

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keepower 发表于 2022-5-11 17:48
今天看了入户消杀视频，只能说FML

听说有些白卫兵把人家家值钱的东西也顺便都拿走了

[youtube]https://youtu.be/NQfmOTB_naA[/youtube]

作者: minigun 时间: 2022-5-11 20:45:26

作者: Clark1129 时间: 2022-5-11 20:46:31

今天迎来奇怪的进度，全市病例仍在上涨阶段，居然宣布开始逐步解封，过渡为精准封控

我个人非常赞同，至少证明郑州政府并不糊涂，皇帝的军令状执行的张弛有度，还是要保地方经济民生，毕竟地方财政问题，受疫连累多大，皇帝的态度是管杀不管埋，只要求你们给老子清零让老子我倍儿有面子就行，你辖下老百姓有没有收入，企业不开门倒闭不倒闭，关我屁事

作者: yakitori 时间: 2022-5-11 21:30:26

20年前刚来新西兰时，回看国内，满满优越感。

10年前，国内朋友混的都不错，自问是否移民是个错误，失去国内发展的好时机，

疫情这3年，特别是今年开始国内疯狂清零开始，看着种种 "科学"防疫，把人民生命放在第一位的清零政策和措施，反而对于祖国没有丝毫失望的感觉，也许看清了就没有任何期望而是感到幸运自己人在国外，为了家人，孩子，自己，离开那个地方是太他妈正确的决定了。

作者: mission12 时间: 2022-5-11 23:19:14

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作者: 狂奔的蜗牛!!! 时间: 2022-5-12 00:18:45

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作者: yakitori 时间: 2022-5-12 00:50:34

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狂奔的蜗牛!!! 发表于 2022-5-11 23:18
尤其是这3-4年中国退的太明显，真不敢想习如果连任了，中国未来的10年会是一个什么景象。

拭目以待吧！ ...

记得这些年最高光时刻就是那个反法西斯70周年阅兵了，万国来朝，外国领导走过来和大大麻麻握手，还有和川普互相串门。。。。。。
支撑中国就是那个经济了，大家有把力气就都有钱赚，国泰民安的，其他的啥事看不到也不想看。疫情就像海浪，加上清零的各种科学防疫的buff，一冲上岸就看到各种底裤了。

其实我是蛮理解政府的做法的。清零影响的是经济；共存老百姓不接受不说，而且到时死亡病例大幅，如同媒体报道那样西方社会火葬场排队，那影响的有可能是稳定。咱们那里维稳可是高于一切的。

和其他国家不一样的是，咱们老百姓对政府服从力可是世界第一的，就看政府如何利用这先天优势和病毒干一架，给世界树立个榜样了。

作者: songinator 时间: 2022-5-12 10:24:13

Bearonrun 发表于 2022-5-11 18:00
我的海运也是在郑州走的，停了一周了，今天客服才确认回复正常。

our air shipping is also from there

作者: 刹那恍惚 时间: 2022-5-12 12:39:45

希望五月过后一切恢复如常

作者: Bearonrun 时间: 2022-5-12 13:24:02

songinator 发表于 2022-5-12 09:24
our air shipping is also from there

等得花儿也谢了。

作者: 翁塞.行.在路上 时间: 2022-5-12 14:46:56

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作者: 汤姆猫杰瑞鼠 时间: 2022-5-14 00:55:12

听说现在郑州开始逐步解封了

作者: ctai010 时间: 2022-5-14 12:25:57

本帖最后由 ctai010 于 2022-5-14 11:28 编辑

yakitori 发表于 2022-5-11 23:50
记得这些年最高光时刻就是那个反法西斯70周年阅兵了，万国来朝，外国领导走过来和大大麻麻握手，还有和川 ...

我覺得最荒謬的事，傾全國之力不計代價跟一個不算是生命的病毒死嗑。

大家都知道，最後你還是要共存的。
所謂的 "更有效的藥" 已經有了，各國的數據都證明了能把死亡率降到0.1％或更低。你自己不打,OK, 你自己愛折騰自己隨意，你self inflicted injury 大家看著都偷著樂.

你自己要等0％死亡率的藥，OK 你就等吧。其實整個數據及疾病管制和醫學定義都是你自己訂的，新冠死亡的醫學定義每個國家都不一樣，你訂個嚴格的定義不就基乎0％死亡率了嗎？跟本不須要這麼折騰。

所以最後你到底贏了什麼？可能就是贏了一個只有你們自己認可的 "我們注重生命，我們比西方人唯利主義高尚"

但是問題來了，其他國家的人跟本don't give a shit what you think, 你要表揚自己高尚現在就可以表揚了，你要宣布自己勝利現在也可以宣布，反正不管怎樣全世界都不會認可你們的制度優勢的，所以跟病毒死嗑倒底贏了什麼？

贏了老年人和弱勢團體的人命？
真的在乎人命為什麼不用全世界證明有效的mrna 疫苗？

作者: yakitori 时间: 2022-5-14 13:10:25

ctai010 发表于 2022-5-14 11:25
我覺得最荒謬的事，傾全國之力不計代價跟一個不算是生命的病毒死嗑。

大家都知道，最後你還是要共存的。 ...

台湾同胞不要如此深思啦，道理中国人不是不懂，而是不想懂。

比如一口承认目前是科学抗疫的人，很多都认为20大之后政策就会有所改善。那一个20大召开时间能和疫情管控科学的链接吗？他们不是还是一边接受核酸隔离封城，一边高叫支持拥护。

作者: ctai010 时间: 2022-5-14 13:24:20

yakitori 发表于 2022-5-14 12:10
台湾同胞不要如此深思啦，道理中国人不是不懂，而是不想懂。

比如一口承认目前是科学抗疫的人，很多都认 ...

哈哈，真的，不是不懂，是不想懂。

不然之前的折騰都沒價值了。

為了面子就繼續折騰下去吧。

我也100％覺得20大後政策就會轉向了

作者: bintoo 时间: 2022-5-14 13:38:58

我来个阴谋论娱乐一下。顺便翻页。

这阵子全国范围，特别在上海的严厉暴力清零，是不是要散发个反面教材給社会公众，不再开放继续清零，受苦的是全社会。这样来掩盖将来开放时所损耗的人命数字，不然不经历这些反人类操作直接转为开发，会不会呗骂得更厉害？

作者: 白云之下 时间: 2022-5-14 13:46:00

bintoo 发表于 2022-5-14 12:38
我来个阴谋论娱乐一下。顺便翻页。

这阵子全国范围，特别在上海的严厉暴力清零，是不是要散发个反面教材給 ...

这种可能性真的存在

作者: Clark1129 时间: 2022-5-14 14:19:58

bintoo 发表于 2022-5-14 12:38
我来个阴谋论娱乐一下。顺便翻页。

这阵子全国范围，特别在上海的严厉暴力清零，是不是要散发个反面教材給 ...

不会，因为现在所有主流舆论仍然是坚持清零痛批共存，没有任何改风向的势头

作者: mission12 时间: 2022-5-14 14:23:20

bintoo 发表于 2022-5-14 12:38
我来个阴谋论娱乐一下。顺便翻页。

这阵子全国范围，特别在上海的严厉暴力清零，是不是要散发个反面教材給 ...

似乎不成立。多少年死于新冠共存，是政府说了算，根据需要可多可少，张张嘴就能办到的事情不用往自己身上扎几刀来办吧

作者: bintoo 时间: 2022-5-14 14:26:39

mission12 发表于 2022-5-14 13:23
似乎不成立。多少年死于新冠共存，是政府说了算，根据需要可多可少，张张嘴就能办到的事情不用往自己身上 ...

如果这么简单，那么现在政府说“全民欢天喜地喜迎暴力清零” ，那当前问题就已经解决，社会没人抱怨了？

作者: bintoo 时间: 2022-5-14 14:27:16

Clark1129 发表于 2022-5-14 13:19
不会，因为现在所有主流舆论仍然是坚持清零痛批共存，没有任何改风向的势头 ...

当然，现在正在执行白色恐怖的过程中嘛，

作者: ctai010 时间: 2022-5-14 17:48:47

bintoo 发表于 2022-5-14 13:26
如果这么简单，那么现在政府说“全民欢天喜地喜迎暴力清零” ，那当前问题就已经解决，社会没人抱怨了 ...

你一開始已經說了，就是個陰謀論餘樂一下，是真是假也不用太認真，就算是真的也沒人能證明。

我最近油管上也常看到另一個陰謀論，抗疫是門生意。核酸的錢因為不是平民出所以大家無感，但是這筆帳算算，抗疫是個清鬆發大財的生意。

作者: Clark1129 时间: 2022-5-14 17:54:32

bintoo 发表于 2022-5-14 13:26
如果这么简单，那么现在政府说“全民欢天喜地喜迎暴力清零” ，那当前问题就已经解决，社会没人抱怨了 ...

皇帝需要担心屁民的抱怨吗？放国际歌都可以查你水表了，能够全国人民喜迎物价上涨，喜迎油价上涨，喜迎清零也就是皇帝龙唇一开的事，现在的问题不是皇帝担心总有刁民想害朕，是皇帝早在西方蛮夷面前吹了大嘴，准备在不久的将来引领全世界参加万邦朝贡，还自己研发自己一顿黑形容成人间毒器的mrna，现在是面子上挂不住了

作者: bintoo 时间: 2022-5-14 17:55:21

Clark1129 发表于 2022-5-14 16:54
皇帝需要担心屁民的抱怨吗？放国际歌都可以查你水表了，能够全国人民喜迎物价上涨，喜迎油价上涨，喜迎清 ...

不担心，就不会封贴禁言啦。

作者: 大王叫我来巡山 时间: 2022-5-15 22:28:58

大家注意一下尺度，最近疫情版有一些帖子开始往政治方向转了，希望大家尽量配合，谢谢

作者: Clark1129 时间: 2022-5-16 15:05:16

今日消息，眼看着解封在即，突发一解封小区又出现十轮核酸后确诊病例，并且已经传给了其他人，本区喜迎解封一日游，再度封控，并且直接影响到全郑州进度

继续感恩

作者: 翁塞.行.在路上 时间: 2022-5-16 15:31:14

Clark1129 发表于 2022-5-16 14:05
今日消息，眼看着解封在即，突发一解封小区又出现十轮核酸后确诊病例，并且已经传给了其他人，本区喜迎解封 ...

话说郑州不是都已经解封了么？

作者: Clark1129 时间: 2022-5-17 00:12:30

翁塞.行.在路上发表于 2022-5-16 14:31
话说郑州不是都已经解封了么？

全面放开是鬼扯

作者: sohu95118932 时间: 2022-5-17 17:25:18

Clark1129 发表于 2022-5-4 00:17
屯粮他二大爷，七点通知，十二点封城，除了感恩，没其他想法

新西兰是船小好掉头，现在感染超百万了
总理都感染了，搁家待着呢

作者: 021027 时间: 2022-5-17 17:59:56

Clark1129 发表于 2022-5-16 23:12
全面放开是鬼扯

现在郑州怎么样了，出门买菜，看病还可以吗。

作者: Clark1129 时间: 2022-5-17 18:37:30

021027 发表于 2022-5-17 16:59
现在郑州怎么样了，出门买菜，看病还可以吗。

封控区出门不行，看病视情况，物资不缺，价格有涨

作者: Clark1129 时间: 2022-5-17 18:37:30

021027 发表于 2022-5-17 16:59
现在郑州怎么样了，出门买菜，看病还可以吗。

封控区出门不行，看病视情况，物资不缺，价格有涨

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