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作者: ilmaro 时间: 2020-11-22 15:38:42 标题: 擦，真的假的啊？丰田成老二了？

本帖最后由 ilmaro 于 2020-11-22 15:40 编辑

擦，真的假的啊？丰田成老二了？这世界疯了，真的疯了……

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/mazda-most-reliable-consumer-reports

作者: penguin 时间: 2020-11-22 15:54:26

反正新闻是这么说的

作者: 太极宗师001 时间: 2020-11-22 16:14:16

本帖最后由太极宗师001 于 2020-11-22 16:16 编辑

看看评价，这些老美也是喜欢日本车，欧洲车sucks
erasmus662
2 days ago

The best cars of my life were Japanese -- the first model of Miata (1990) ran for 8 years without a single problem, my 1976 Corolla (purchased new for $3,850) ran 150,000 miles without trouble, and my current car is a Lexus that is superb. We swore off German cars (Porsche, Mercedes, Audi, and VW) long ago. They are fun and well-engineered, but they are unreliable, and the cost of parts and service makes owners feel like suckers.

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[color=var(--spotim-text-color-muted)]Mazda and Toyota are very conservative when it comes to deploying the latest gizmos. A case for, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

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[color=var(--spotim-text-color-muted)]Agreed. I drive a 2011 Camry with 107,000 miles and only work has been brakes, tires, other scheduled maintenance items. I once owned a Jeep Cherokee and what didn't leak out of it fell off of it.

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作者: beatles 时间: 2020-11-22 16:36:50

好事，有竟争才能进步！

作者: paulwood 时间: 2020-11-22 16:39:13

主要马自达没怎么用CVT, 也没钱搞太先进的电子系统。

作者: 还是回国吧 时间: 2020-11-22 16:47:15

肯定是被混动车拖后腿了

作者: KKKkkk3k 时间: 2020-11-22 17:54:36

FOX news, Fake news

作者: keepower 时间: 2020-11-22 20:51:02

Mazda车最烂的地方莫过车漆啊

作者: ilmaro 时间: 2020-11-22 20:58:45

keepower 发表于 2020-11-22 20:51
Mazda车最烂的地方莫过车漆啊

确实是，嫩了点……

这方面，日本车平价车款真不行，欧美车款好多了……

作者: 野牛 时间: 2020-11-23 09:13:23

恭喜马自达登顶！有竞争才有进步，最终受益的是车主们

作者: judo 时间: 2020-11-23 21:49:50

本帖最后由 judo 于 2020-11-23 21:56 编辑

看这个。前六就有4个是丰田，凌志。
https://www.consumerreports.org/ ... most-reliable-cars/

那个打分不公平，凌志总分竟然被一个13分的 LS拉低了。丰田也是，被最好卖的Rav4拉低了。还有奥迪前十有两款的，但是品牌分竟然被还没出来的etron 13 分拉下来了。
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https://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/how-asian-domestic-european-automakers-rank-for-car-reliability/

The popular RAV4 SUV is still just average, plagued by minor transmission problems, fuel system issues, and electronics problems with infotainment systems

Subaru can’t seem to work out the kinks in its Ascent, which has subpar reliability. Problems with the brakes, transmission, power equipment, climate system, and steering/suspension continue to hurt it。

Nissan is hurt by the Pathfinder and Rogue Sport. Both had in-car electronics and transmission issues, and the Rogue Sport also had suspension issues.

The Ford Explorer, redesigned for 2020, is one of the lowest-scoring models this year. Even in its first year, owners told us of numerous transmission replacements, along with drive system, in-car electronics, power equipment, and engine and body hardware issues.

作者: yaomingtcm 时间: 2020-11-24 11:20:09

马自达用自吸+at，整体可靠性当然更好。
我看了下完整榜单，宝马居然进入可靠性好的那档了！

作者: Marill 时间: 2020-11-24 11:59:27

judo 发表于 2020-11-23 21:49
看这个。前六就有4个是丰田，凌志。
https://www.consumerreports.org/ ... most-reliable-cars/

Rav 4为啥这么惨？

作者: judo 时间: 2020-11-24 19:13:52

Marill 发表于 2020-11-24 11:59
Rav 4为啥这么惨？

2019 RAV4大改款的时候出了很多小问题。其实什么车大改款后都有很多小问题，然后每年都更新改进。

The popular RAV4 SUV is still just average, plagued by minor transmission problems, fuel system issues, and electronics problems with infotainment systems

作者: WellyRover 时间: 2020-11-25 12:24:26

CX-5感觉内饰做工下了很大功夫。比较惊叹的是安全带buckle是连接在座椅结构件上的。抽空再试驾一下两年的二手车。明年小改款出来合适的话就给搞一辆新的。

作者: 261874939 时间: 2020-11-25 13:21:09

肯定是假的。。。丰田是No.1.。。。。。

最靠谱最保值性价比最高的车。。。。

作者: Domani 时间: 2020-11-25 13:55:22

那么问题又TM来了，RX7啥时候出？

作者: tangtang797 时间: 2020-11-25 14:27:16

不管在哪里排名第二，在论坛里面丰田永远第一

作者: judo 时间: 2020-11-26 21:20:12

WellyRover 发表于 2020-11-25 12:24
CX-5感觉内饰做工下了很大功夫。比较惊叹的是安全带buckle是连接在座椅结构件上的。抽空再试驾一下两年的二 ...

偷偷告诉你，现在去马自达谈现款新车可以拿10%off折扣，可以等一月拿车上2021的牌。

明年新款就加大中控屏幕，低配有更多的安全功能，差别不大。

作者: ilmaro 时间: 2020-11-26 21:37:48

judo 发表于 2020-11-26 21:20
偷偷告诉你，现在去马自达谈现款新车可以拿10%off折扣，可以等一月拿车上2021的牌。

明年新款就加大中控 ...

作者: WellyRover 时间: 2020-11-27 08:39:39

judo 发表于 2020-11-26 21:20
偷偷告诉你，现在去马自达谈现款新车可以拿10%off折扣，可以等一月拿车上2021的牌。

明年新款就加大中控 ...

这就要说Mazda的降本问题了。他家车早期版本很多基本L2辅助功能都是不集成的，比如REB。21版本是基本完善了L2的功能，20版本有了2.5L的发动机。

不过降本也看的很清楚，取消了触控屏幕，90年代的天窗万年不变。

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