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作者: 鼠星人 时间: 2020-2-28 09:42:00 标题: ZT: 早说了，新西兰人办事懒散，草菅人命，终于有人承认了！！！

上次SARS的时候，就应该做好准备了。国库屯的口罩，防护用品根本不够，没人知道，连卫生部都不知情。戴口罩出门被批评（虽然戴口罩没有用），这些凸显新西兰人民还有政府的懒散，政府草菅人命。现在终于有名人站出来承认了，再次证明我说的是真理！！！哈哈

Coronavirus: Lance O'Sullivan admits he 'got it wrong' in playing down fears, says thousands could die here
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/02/coronavirus-lance-o-sullivan-admits-he-got-it-wrong-in-playing-down-fears-says-thousands-could-die-here.html

Last time former New Zealander of the Year Lance O'Sullivan was on The AM Show, he called the media reaction to the growing coronavirus threat "a lot of hysteria, a beat-up".

Now he's fearing COVID-19 could kill thousands of New Zealanders if it comes here, with our health system underprepared for the influx of potentially tens of thousands of patients.

The latest international figures show more than 82,500 people have been confirmed infected and 2810 dead. While the vast majority of cases and fatalities so far have been recorded in China, where it began, the outbreak reached a turning point this week - more new cases are now being reported outside of China than in.

When Dr O'Sullivan appeared on The AM Show at the end of January, the death toll was only 81.

"I am concerned that we're going to get pushed down this track of going crazy on this hysteria, we're going to create these pandemic camps," he told host Duncan Garner. "The real issue is, we've got other, bigger problems that we should be looking at."

Those views, he says, were based on assumptions COVID-19 would sputter out, like SARS, which infected more than 8000 people and killed 774 in 2003 - most of them in China, Hong Kong and Taiwan.

"New Zealand wants leaders who are prepared to say, 'Okay - we got it wrong,'" Dr O'Sullivan said on Friday. "And maybe in this situation we are dealing with something that's a bit more serious than [it seemed] on first appearances... We'd seen SARS, and SARS almost shut down the world, and it turned out to not be very much. So it was with that in mind - let's not do that again."

He's not the only doctor to have underestimated COVID-19. James Freeman, an Australian doctor and friend of Dr O'Sullivan's, made the same mistake. The pair were working together this week when the outbreak came up in conversation.
"He mentioned coronavirus, and I said, 'I wrote this article to tell people not to worry about it too much,'" said Dr Freeman. "He said, 'So did I.' And I said, 'Ah yeah - I'm going to have to recant on that, because this is looking a lot more serious than we thought.'"

The outlook for New Zealand
If the virus gets loose in New Zealand, based on what we've seen so far, it's likely at least 5000 people would die - and that's a conservative estimate based on what happened on the Diamond Princess, a cruise ship on which the virus ran rampant.

"We know for a fact there were 3700 people on that boat. We know 700 of them become infected - so we can see about 20 percent of people getting infected," said Dr Freeman.

"Of those 700 people we can see 29 of them are listed as critically unwell, and so far there have been four deaths.... that's one in 1000."

Garner quickly calculated that would mean 5000 deaths, to which Dr Freeman replied: "You end up with a large number, yeah."

But that could be a best-case scenario.

"The expectation is there will be more deaths than that, because in China it's over a 50 percent mortality rate if you're critically unwell," said Dr Freeman.

Let's say half the remaining cruise ship patients who are critically unwell die - that's 19 out of 3700 now. Scaling that up to New Zealand's population, we're now looking at a potential 25,000 deaths.

Health system already 'bursting at the seams'

Even if New Zealand's high-quality health system manages to keep the death toll down, the Diamond Princess experience suggests around 40,000 people could fall critically ill in an uncontained outbreak.

"That's going to be a large number of people potentially unwell," said Dr Freeman.

Dr O'Sullivan said general practices are already "bursting at the seams", and with China producing much of the world's medicines - including antibiotics, which will be necessary to treat any secondary infections (antibiotics are useless against viruses themselves).

"I really have an aversion to trying to create hysteria and panic, but there are concerns about whether we are ready enough for this."

The last worldwide pandemic - 2009's swine flu - infected about a quarter of the world's population and killed hundreds of thousands of people, later studies showed.

作者: 鼠星人 时间: 2020-2-28 09:42:21

自沙

作者: bintoo 时间: 2020-2-28 09:44:53

老鼠你一方面期待世界大战，死百万千万人都不在乎，另一方面又好像很害怕这个只会造成几千人死亡的病毒。你的价值观很难触摸啊。哈哈。

作者: anzbank 时间: 2020-2-28 09:46:10

澳洲已经准备开设发热门诊了，比较好
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020 ... 9-outbreak/12006960

Special "fever clinics" could soon be established, retired doctors asked to return to work, and non-urgent surgeries cancelled as the Federal Government shifts into the next phase of its response to the coronavirus outbreak.

作者: 匿名 时间: 2020-2-28 09:47:43

"That's going to be a large number of people potentially unwell," said Dr Freeman.
洋人说话真委婉啊。。。哈哈哈轻描淡写
不戴口罩是sb，不让别人戴口罩是sb中的大sb。因为怕洋人不开心，就呼吁华人不要戴口罩。是sb中的软骨头b

作者: skysadness 时间: 2020-2-28 09:48:16

bintoo 发表于 2020-2-28 09:44
老鼠你一方面期待世界大战，死百万千万人都不在乎，另一方面又好像很害怕这个只会造成几千人死亡的病毒。 ...

世界大战基本上打不到新西兰本土，但是病毒很可能会到新西兰本土

作者: 匿名 时间: 2020-2-28 09:50:21

还是回国好

作者: bintoo 时间: 2020-2-28 09:51:34

skysadness 发表于 2020-2-28 09:48
世界大战基本上打不到新西兰本土，但是病毒很可能会到新西兰本土

以前可能是，现在的科技，谁还能确定呢。

说不定有国家会打来新西兰做南半球基地和最后生存的堡垒呢。

作者: 太阳鸟鸟 时间: 2020-2-28 09:51:58

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作者: skysadness 时间: 2020-2-28 09:55:20

bintoo 发表于 2020-2-28 09:51
以前可能是，现在的科技，谁还能确定呢。

说不定有国家会打来新西兰做南半球基地和最后生存的堡垒呢。 ...

老哥。能夸太平洋投放军队的国家也就那么几个，欧美澳洲算盟国，中国应该看不上新西兰，而且中国海外大批量投放军队没试过，毕竟台湾海峡一直都没跨过去。与其打新西兰不如打台湾，那才是千秋功绩。
你还怕啥？怕斐济萨摩亚入侵吗？

作者: rzrljb 时间: 2020-2-28 09:58:04

老鼠口罩没屯够?

作者: bintoo 时间: 2020-2-28 09:59:57

skysadness 发表于 2020-2-28 09:55
老哥。能夸太平洋投放军队的国家也就那么几个，欧美澳洲算盟国，中国应该看不上新西兰，而且中国海外大批 ...

二次大战前有人能猜到德国能吃掉大半个欧洲吗？  那还只是靠双脚和几个轮子飞机都飞不远的时代呢。战后坐下来各种分析各种需要，都只是马后炮的后见之名而已。

有没有需要拿下新西兰，不是和平年代我们这类网民能看懂的。

台湾没打过去，不是打不过，而是和平年代不值得打。  所有战争时的价值观和决策，特别是世界大战这个规模，和我们现在拿着杯咖啡看着电脑安安心心上班时是完全不再一个维度的。

作者: 鼠星人 时间: 2020-2-28 10:00:08

rzrljb 发表于 2020-2-28 09:58
老鼠口罩没屯够?

我没屯，小市民不用。但是前线的医疗人员，还有GP这些都需要啊。

我自己倒是屯了很多吃的

作者: keepower 时间: 2020-2-28 10:01:36

鼠星人发表于 2020-2-28 10:00
我没屯，小市民不用。但是前线的医疗人员，还有GP这些都需要啊。

我自己倒是屯了很多吃的 ...

老鼠还是棒棒哒在家呆着有吃有喝等疫情过去

作者: skysadness 时间: 2020-2-28 10:02:00

bintoo 发表于 2020-2-28 09:59
二次大战前有人能猜到德国能吃掉大半个欧洲吗？那还只是靠双脚和几个轮子飞机都飞不远的时代呢。战后 ...

那如果到时候某国家打到新西兰，你是拼死抵抗，跑路还是投降？

作者: bintoo 时间: 2020-2-28 10:04:18

skysadness 发表于 2020-2-28 10:02
那如果到时候某国家打到新西兰，你是拼死抵抗，跑路还是投降？

作为平民，拿什么抵抗？菜刀还是锤子？好像早就过了农民拿着锄头镰刀都能对抗政府军方起义的年代了吧。。

真打起来除了做战争难民逃难外，我看不到在热兵器时代平民还有多少选择。

作者: auckland.clark 时间: 2020-2-28 10:05:06

鼠星人发表于 2020-2-28 10:00
我没屯，小市民不用。但是前线的医疗人员，还有GP这些都需要啊。

我自己倒是屯了很多吃的 ...

老鼠是真聪明。买口罩真的没有用。

作者: 匿名 时间: 2020-2-28 10:07:57

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作者: 匿名 时间: 2020-2-28 10:12:25

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作者: 匿名 时间: 2020-2-28 10:17:34

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作者: moonIlight2013 时间: 2020-2-28 10:19:51

鼠星人发表于 2020-2-28 09:42
自沙

老鼠，老实交代你现在有多少个N95多少个普通外科口罩。

作者: dichn 时间: 2020-2-28 10:20:38

SB kiwi 只是短视而已，以前一直说没事不用恐慌是因为爆发都是在国内，以为不让国人来就行了。现在是世界上开始传播了，这帮SB就开始慌了。 title还Dr, Dr my ass...

作者: 匿名 时间: 2020-2-28 10:29:43

老鼠，回國吧。。。。。。。。。

作者: keepower 时间: 2020-2-28 10:50:37

skysadness 发表于 2020-2-28 10:02
那如果到时候某国家打到新西兰，你是拼死抵抗，跑路还是投降？

按照现在的国际形势，如果打到新西兰了，说明澳洲已经被打垮了；澳洲被打垮了说明美帝已经被KO了。如果澳洲和美帝都被ko了，新西兰国家就直接投降了。只能个人组织进山打游击了 lol

作者: 261874939 时间: 2020-2-28 11:05:05

嗯嗯嗯嗯

作者: 匿名 时间: 2020-2-28 11:23:11

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作者: skysadness 时间: 2020-2-28 11:23:39

bintoo 发表于 2020-2-28 10:04
作为平民，拿什么抵抗？菜刀还是锤子？好像早就过了农民拿着锄头镰刀都能对抗政府军方起义的年代了吧。 ...

都打到新西兰了你往哪里跑》斐济吗

作者: bintoo 时间: 2020-2-28 11:24:57

skysadness 发表于 2020-2-28 11:23
都打到新西兰了你往哪里跑》斐济吗

在达到新西兰前，就要响应老鼠号召， “回国吧”。

作者: 飞狗 时间: 2020-2-28 11:29:11

鼠星人发表于 2020-2-28 10:00
我没屯，小市民不用。但是前线的医疗人员，还有GP这些都需要啊。

我自己倒是屯了很多吃的 ...

不是应该屯点桶装水么，akl没水啦。。。。

作者: 鼠星人 时间: 2020-2-28 11:35:49

飞狗发表于 2020-2-28 11:29
不是应该屯点桶装水么，akl没水啦。。。。

水。。。包括在吃的里面了。。。哈哈

作者: Just4LD 时间: 2020-2-28 11:36:41

鼠星人发表于 2020-2-28 11:35
水。。。包括在吃的里面了。。。哈哈

翻页~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

作者: espedd 时间: 2020-2-28 11:39:48

你带头回国吧

以后我对你这头脑容量微小的小老鼠的统一回复就是

你带头回国吧

希望所有其他人也同意给他回复

你带头回国吧

你带头回国吧

你带头回国吧

你带头回国吧

你带头回国吧

你带头回国吧

你带头回国吧

你带头回国吧

你带头回国吧

作者: 鼠星人 时间: 2020-2-28 11:48:54

espedd 发表于 2020-2-28 11:39
你带头回国吧

以后我对你这头脑容量微小的小老鼠的统一回复就是

为啥？

作者: anzbank 时间: 2020-2-28 11:51:38

韩国27日最新1名死者是74岁男长者，与新天地大邱教会有关，他因床位不足，在家中隔离等待住院，今日不适，送院后不治。

作者: 匿名 时间: 2020-2-28 11:52:33

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作者: rabbit 时间: 2020-2-28 12:36:09

要是新西兰爆发了，你说中国会包机来接回国治疗嘛？

作者: 鼠星人 时间: 2020-2-28 12:37:34

rabbit 发表于 2020-2-28 12:36
要是新西兰爆发了，你说中国会包机来接回国治疗嘛？

我相信会，我对习近平有信心！！！

作者: anzbank 时间: 2020-2-28 12:40:33

rabbit 发表于 2020-2-28 12:36
要是新西兰爆发了，你说中国会包机来接回国治疗嘛？

看国歌唱的好不好

作者: espedd 时间: 2020-2-28 13:21:16

鼠星人发表于 2020-2-28 11:48
为啥？

你带头回国吧

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