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标题: ZT: 看不懂，让人花钱的公司都在赚大钱，搞建筑的却亏本，难道真的是要崩盘了？ [打印本页]

作者: NewLynnHse 时间: 2018-8-23 11:51:08 标题: ZT: 看不懂，让人花钱的公司都在赚大钱，搞建筑的却亏本，难道真的是要崩盘了？

空军们和工粉们要坐稳了，美梦可能很快就会成真了。。。哈哈

Trade Me cracks quarter billion dollar revenue mark
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12111365

Trade Me Group is distributing $100 million via a 22 cents per share special dividend, as the online auction company announced it turned over more than $250 million for the first time to deliver a 3.9 per cent increase in net profit for the year to June 30 of $96.6 million.

Air New Zealand's second highest ever profit, bonuses for staff
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12111691

Air New Zealand has announced pre tax earnings of $540 million, the second highest profit in the airline's history, and it will pay staff an $1800 bonus.

Net profit after tax grew 2.1 per cent to $390m.

Staff bonuses of up to $1800 will be paid to all permanent employees who do not participate in a short-term incentive programme.

Fletcher Building in red, posts $190m loss, no dividend for shareholders
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12111251

Fletcher Building has made a $190 million loss, only the second time since listing on the NZX in 2001 that it slipped into the red, shareholders will get no dividends for the full year and no trading update has been provided.

The company with a market capitalisation of $5.8 billion this morning released its annual result for the year ended June 30.

It declared a loss of $46m in 2009 and said today FY19 earnings guidance would not be provided until the annual shareholders' meeting later this year.

The $190m loss for the June 2018 year is a big turnaround from the $94m profit for the June 2017 year.

"In line with the company's dividend policy to pay dividends in the range of 50-75 per cent of net earnings before significant items, no final dividend was declared in FY18. The company expects, subject to satisfactory trading performance, to be in a position to resume dividends in FY19," it announced to the NZX this morning.

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作者: Bearonrun 时间: 2018-8-23 12:07:09

人工和建筑物料的成本增长过快。政府的法律限制收紧变严。贷款越来越难。还有房价增速过慢。

这些都会让建筑商的成本/风险控制出问题。

作者: Chatbox 时间: 2018-8-23 12:22:15

建筑商都破产，没人盖房，工党就能一统江湖。大家吸风饮露，卫生环保，云为被地为床，天下就太平了。

好期待。

作者: KB 时间: 2018-8-23 12:26:16

这只是与时俱进的公司和墨守成规公司的区别而已 Fontera不是也不怎么样了么.

作者: NewLynnHse 时间: 2018-8-23 12:27:57

KB 发表于 2018-8-23 11:26
这只是与时俱进的公司和墨守成规公司的区别而已 Fontera不是也不怎么样了么. ...

嗯，其实像Fonterra跟Fletcher这种垄断的恐龙公司，早点倒闭对市场是好的

作者: oplwy 时间: 2018-8-23 12:49:10

空军有钱买房的时候。还吃得起饭吗？最近油价和物价涨幅很大啊

作者: V7 时间: 2018-8-23 12:58:01

NewLynnHse 发表于 2018-8-23 11:27
嗯，其实像Fonterra跟Fletcher这种垄断的恐龙公司，早点倒闭对市场是好的

说的对，建筑材料价格就是他们涨起来的，还要哭着说亏本。。。。简直了

作者: lsj5031 时间: 2018-8-23 13:15:08

亏的是 building and interior 部门吧，residential and Development 部门血赚但是拉不回来这个亏损……在interest 上看的。

作者: KB 时间: 2018-8-23 13:15:14

V7 发表于 2018-8-23 11:58
说的对，建筑材料价格就是他们涨起来的，还要哭着说亏本。。。。简直了 ...

建筑材料价格上涨还真不能怪他们,他们亏本只是成本核算上没做好.

作者: Bearonrun 时间: 2018-8-23 13:31:10

将来会有更多的承建商倒闭。

作者: skysadness 时间: 2018-8-23 14:06:22

因为很多人把东西在trademe卖掉然后买机票回国了~~~

作者: bungyjumping999 时间: 2018-8-23 15:17:01

本帖最后由 bungyjumping999 于 2018-8-23 14:35 编辑

In the 2008 GFC, the companies that first went under were:

1) Finance Companies -
2) Building Companies - unfinished projects and subdivisions.
2) Car dealers -
3) Tight Credit controls by major banks - leading to Government introducing deposit guarantee scheme for fear of capital flights.
- The government of the day was in a dilemma in holding on many finance companies' assets and subsequently making a sale or redemption in higher profit to pay back to the Crown in guaranteeing the depositors' money. In that period, the Government would have to make sure the property market functioning okay as they were exposed to the Assets of finance companies they were holding on.

- Then Came Christchurch earthquake, the government had to buy out the red zone houses by using taxpayers money, they have to use relaxed policy for the property market to gain confidence, otherwise, the crown will be exposed in those toxic assets.

Many people now look at the property market and didn't think much of those 2 major events that led to Government's policy at that time.

In short, too early to make a call yet..... wait till Overseas investment Act swings into full force in the next few months.

作者: V7 时间: 2018-8-23 15:27:28

F家是不是大到不能倒的地步

作者: bungyjumping999 时间: 2018-8-23 15:32:46

本帖最后由 bungyjumping999 于 2018-8-23 14:34 编辑

V7 发表于 2018-8-23 14:27
F家是不是大到不能倒的地步

They will become Australia company one day ( through take over), just like major banks in NZ being taken over slowly by Aussie.

fisher and Pykers was the nz icon, now owned by Hier. It all happened in the Crisis time.

作者: xyyy 时间: 2018-8-23 16:44:37

赚的时候不说？

作者: Quad 时间: 2018-8-23 18:26:52

oplwy 发表于 2018-8-23 11:49
空军有钱买房的时候。还吃得起饭吗？最近油价和物价涨幅很大啊

空军是打不着鹿，也不能让鹿吃草。

作者: 真正的猛男 时间: 2018-8-23 23:40:44

将来会有更多的承建商倒闭~

炒房党就颤抖吧~~~~~~~

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