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作者: bungyjumping999    时间: 2018-8-1 21:50:41     标题: Overseas Investment Amendment Bill - latest update

本帖最后由 bungyjumping999 于 2018-8-13 14:49 编辑

The long awaiting Overseas Investment Amendment Bill is back in Parliament on 1/8/2018, just as we thought it might have been forgotten after PM goes off for maternity leave.


Update on 4/8/2018: Parliament will re-open on 7/8/2018 (Tuesday), by then likely "committee debate" will be completed on that day.
After that, it will go to the 3rd reading. This reading will be fast and it involves tidying up and summary of the whole piece of legislation. A date is yet to be fixed.

After 3rd reading, it will be sent for Governor General for signature and it will become law (Act) by certain date.

Update on 13/8/2018: This Wednesday (15/8) is set to become law.
https://www.interest.co.nz/property/95294/overseas-investment-amendment-bill-was-one-first-bills-government-said-it-would

Governor - General will be waiting to sign it off.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/boGxv3xqWf8[/youtube]





作者: bungyjumping999    时间: 2018-8-1 21:58:54

本帖最后由 bungyjumping999 于 2018-8-1 22:00 编辑

[youtube]https://youtu.be/RVanpcEf2J4[/youtube]
作者: pear    时间: 2018-8-1 23:49:55

大势所趋,三年前就应该通过这个法案。
作者: 老老妖刀    时间: 2018-8-2 06:48:23

快点执行吧。。

整天这点破事,吵的好烦。

而且放宽了限制,大家都很开心。
作者: NewLynnHse    时间: 2018-8-2 08:51:12

老老妖刀 发表于 2018-8-2 06:48
快点执行吧。。

整天这点破事,吵的好烦。

就是,不知道为啥磨叽了那么久
作者: bungyjumping999    时间: 2018-8-2 09:05:31

NewLynnHse 发表于 2018-8-2 08:51
就是,不知道为啥磨叽了那么久

Suppose to become law last month, now have to wait for this month.... take too long, few hundred houses to foreign buyers again.

haha.... speed up
作者: 先森表酱紫嘛    时间: 2018-8-2 09:09:11

大势所趋,三年前就应该通过这个法案。X2 工党,优先党才是真正爱国的党!国家党卖国垃圾一个,有多远滚多远
作者: Chatbox    时间: 2018-8-2 10:03:09

先森表酱紫嘛 发表于 2018-8-2 09:09
大势所趋,三年前就应该通过这个法案。X2 工党,优先党才是真正爱国的党!国家党卖国垃圾一个,有多远 ...

你是台复读机吗?
作者: espedd    时间: 2018-8-2 10:33:59

现在全球房价都在降。根本原因是美国缩表增息,导致的美元回流。另外对于中国人热点投资地区的房价下降也有原因是中国对于外流资本的管制。

现在说下这个限制海外购房的事情,感觉新西兰这个国家法制的拖沓,1,2,3读,你能不能快点,等你真正落地生效,黄花菜都凉了。现在我们看到的房价下跌并不是这个法律的原因,还是全球宏观经济的原因。
这个法也许连锦上添花的效果都谈不上了。。。
要不要这个法,新西兰房价短期也涨不起来。。。。等下次大选,如果国家党上台,估计要废掉这个可有可无的法了。。。这个法时效性真的是不行。。。
作者: Lease    时间: 2018-8-2 10:41:42

espedd 发表于 2018-8-2 10:33
现在全球房价都在降。根本原因是美国缩表增息,导致的美元回流。另外对于中国人热点投资地区的房价下降也有 ...

推行这个法律是典型的脑子坏掉了。
作者: bungyjumping999    时间: 2018-8-2 10:48:37

本帖最后由 bungyjumping999 于 2018-8-2 10:51 编辑
Lease 发表于 2018-8-2 10:41
推行这个法律是典型的脑子坏掉了。

There will be unintended consequences.

And for a bill that is passed and to abolish it one day, will not that easy.

For listed Company in NZX eg, CDL is a property development company  and is a foreign control company, basically will not be able to acquire land and will likely leave NZ market.
作者: occc    时间: 2018-8-2 10:50:34

espedd 发表于 2018-8-2 10:33
现在全球房价都在降。根本原因是美国缩表增息,导致的美元回流。另外对于中国人热点投资地区的房价下降也有 ...

怕就怕下次大选还是工党在台上啊
作者: Lease    时间: 2018-8-2 11:00:04

bungyjumping999 发表于 2018-8-2 10:48
There will be unintended consequences.

And for a bill that is passed and to abolish it one day, wi ...

That's why I don't understand why the Government still want to implement the bill, given the current circumstance(locally and globally). The only explanation is their brain has been damaged.
作者: espedd    时间: 2018-8-2 11:07:23

工党政府的官员智商也应该超过全国平均水平吧。 我们能看到的他们一样能看到。就算是水货经济学家政府顾问。这么明白的因为全球开始缩减债务并提高利率水平导致的资产价格缩水的道理,总应该知道的吧。
现在都到3读了,不办不行了。。真是个鸡肋法。。。

其实还不如来个沥干建议的行政手段而不是搞什么隆长的制定法律,更有效和管用。比如印花税比如限制投资地区等等。。。非要搞高大上的ACT,

另外我一直搞不懂LAW, ACT有啥区别。。。新西兰木有宪法。木有根本大法的国家。。
作者: BNC2015    时间: 2018-8-2 11:29:06

说好的百日维新呢?
作者: Lease    时间: 2018-8-2 11:38:09

espedd 发表于 2018-8-2 11:07
工党政府的官员智商也应该超过全国平均水平吧。 我们能看到的他们一样能看到。就算是水货经济学家政府顾问 ...

Law是通俗的说法, 形成Law的文件就叫ACT。
作者: Chatbox    时间: 2018-8-2 11:38:49

BNC2015 发表于 2018-8-2 11:29
说好的百日维新呢?

反正隐瞒生娃时间不叫骗
百日变一年不叫骗
房子盖不出来不叫骗

世界上没有骗子
作者: bungyjumping999    时间: 2018-8-2 11:53:13

本帖最后由 bungyjumping999 于 2018-8-2 12:03 编辑
Lease 发表于 2018-8-2 11:00
That's why I don't understand why the Government still want to implement the bill, given the curren ...

Some people (party) works on principality than practicality.

for this case, they want to appease the popular masses than wanting the practicality of this legislation.

Of course, the unintended consequences are yet to be seen. I am counting on it (not to make a fortune out of people's unfortunate) and see how an action will lead to far-reaching consequences on a small country like this.

The labour coalition holds the winning card to pass it into Law ( Act), my "no" to this legislation is equivalent to no voice, hence, I can only bet on the reversal of fortune and unintended consequences this legislation is going to bring and have a good laugh.
作者: ucol    时间: 2018-8-2 12:09:56

espedd 发表于 2018-8-2 11:07
工党政府的官员智商也应该超过全国平均水平吧。 我们能看到的他们一样能看到。就算是水货经济学家政府顾问 ...

拉一帮傻子的选票呗,国家利益受不受损害,who care
作者: tianyalpangzi    时间: 2018-8-2 20:23:01

这法案通过后当然有很大影响,要不怎么会有这么多相关利益者在呐喊,在跳脚。
作者: bungyjumping999    时间: 2018-8-2 20:28:48

tianyalpangzi 发表于 2018-8-2 20:23
这法案通过后当然有很大影响,要不怎么会有这么多相关利益者在呐喊,在跳脚。 ...

Yes, big enough to see blood on the street.



作者: yangauk    时间: 2018-8-2 20:39:48

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作者: Chatbox    时间: 2018-8-2 22:38:28

tianyalpangzi 发表于 2018-8-2 20:23
这法案通过后当然有很大影响,要不怎么会有这么多相关利益者在呐喊,在跳脚。 ...

对,对,看看谁最近疯狂的发新帖就看得出来
作者: tianyalpangzi    时间: 2018-8-2 23:13:58

Chatbox 发表于 2018-8-2 22:38
对,对,看看谁最近疯狂的发新帖就看得出来

不打自招啊,呵呵
作者: 老老妖刀    时间: 2018-8-3 07:53:38

数据表明海外买家只买走了少部分房产。

限制海外买家不会对房市造成影响。

利空出尽,房价就会大涨的。。

对不起,我做了次复读机。

作者: 微苦蓝山    时间: 2018-8-3 08:17:55

yangauk 发表于 2018-8-2 20:39
人家都是社会精英,没有他们都会亡国灭种。各个都充满正能量满满都是社会责任感,可是又不肯为自己祖国去 ...

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作者: NewLynnHse    时间: 2018-8-3 08:23:33

微苦蓝山 发表于 2018-8-3 08:17
哈哈 特地登录上来给你10086个赞

大猩猩,好久不见
作者: Chatbox    时间: 2018-8-3 10:08:10

老老妖刀 发表于 2018-8-3 07:53
数据表明海外买家只买走了少部分房产。

限制海外买家不会对房市造成影响。

我还挺好奇的,总有人说有人说大涨,谁会说大涨? 给个链接看看?
作者: Chatbox    时间: 2018-8-3 10:09:39

本帖最后由 Chatbox 于 2018-8-3 10:11 编辑
tianyalpangzi 发表于 2018-8-2 23:13
不打自招啊,呵呵


谁不打自招啊?谁最近不停发新帖?给看看吧,很好奇哦

我倒是有个人选,要不要顶贴看看,全是让大家放弃幻想的,全是这几天的。该不会有人又选择性失明吧?
作者: 微苦蓝山    时间: 2018-8-3 11:12:38

NewLynnHse 发表于 2018-8-3 08:23
大猩猩,好久不见

哈哈哈好久不见 小老鼠。。。
作者: tianyalpangzi    时间: 2018-8-4 01:28:45

Chatbox 发表于 2018-8-3 10:09
谁不打自招啊?谁最近不停发新帖?给看看吧,很好奇哦

我倒是有个人选,要不要顶贴看看,全是让大家放弃幻 ...

莫跳脚了,冷静一下吧,这法案看似快来了。
作者: tianyalpangzi    时间: 2018-8-4 01:31:47

bungyjumping999 发表于 2018-8-2 20:28
Yes, big enough to see blood on the street.

see blood。。。。。。!
吃完大餐,总要有人把单买了,这也是莫办法的事
作者: bungyjumping999    时间: 2018-8-4 09:33:19

本帖最后由 bungyjumping999 于 2018-8-15 09:13 编辑

Parliament reopens on Tuesay (7/8/2018), by then, the Committee debate should have been concluded.

The next event will be the 3rd reading ( a way to tidy up and summarise the bill) by members of the house ( few speeches), this date is yet to be fixed.

After that is governor general's signature ( royal accent) to make it into law (Act). There is a starting date to be announced.



作者: Chatbox    时间: 2018-8-4 14:10:23

tianyalpangzi 发表于 2018-8-4 01:28
莫跳脚了,冷静一下吧,这法案看似快来了。

我在温水里泡着呢,不会跳的。我早就说过法案赶紧来,水都快凉了。
作者: keepower    时间: 2018-8-4 14:43:44

法案对市场的冲击有限。风都放了这么久了,该消化的都消化的差不多了。政治考量比较多,毕竟是选前一大承诺。
作者: bungyjumping999    时间: 2018-8-13 13:32:33

本帖最后由 bungyjumping999 于 2018-8-13 13:41 编辑

https://www.interest.co.nz/prope ... nment-said-it-would

Look like this Wednesday (15/8/2018), it will become law. Not sure of the effective date, I bet the Governor General will be waiting in the office to sign off and have an immediate effective date.

This will mark a new era.



作者: NewLynnHse    时间: 2018-8-13 14:35:24

bungyjumping999 发表于 2018-8-13 13:32
https://www.interest.co.nz/prope ... nment-said-it-would

Look like this Wednesday (15/8/2018), it w ...

woohoo, finally see some lights
作者: bungyjumping999    时间: 2018-8-15 19:08:24

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/busin ... 3&objectid=12107703

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business ... -houses-becomes-law


It is now becoming law waiting for governor-general to sign off.

"Some provisions critical to the operation of the new regime will start immediately following Royal assent, with the new screening requirements commencing within two months of Royal assent."

--------------> what it means is some provisions will be effective immediately upon royal accent ( governor-general's signing), some provisions will be within 2 months of royal assent ( those provisions refer to regulations, schedules, rules that will be made under the Act).




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