新西兰天维网社区

标题: Kiwibuild签证被废！要进口3万建筑外劳 [打印本页]

作者: 呼啸寒风 时间: 2018-6-27 12:15:12 标题: Kiwibuild签证被废！要进口3万建筑外劳

本帖最后由呼啸寒风于 2018-6-27 12:16 编辑

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/105040475/kiwibuild-visa-replaced-with-wider-immigration-changes-to-fix-30000-construction-worker-gap

The Government has scrapped its KiwiBuild Visa plan in favour of wider proposed changes to immigration settings to fix a 30,000 worker gap in construction.

A Cabinet paper released alongside the proposed changes warns that without them costs for KiwiBuild could blow out.

The proposed changes include a KiwiBuild Skills Shortages list which would set up a simplified process for employers to quickly hire overseas workers in critical roles without Immigration NZ needing to conduct a market test each time.

Employers in the construction sector with proven good practice would also have access to either accreditation or another pre-approval model so they could also hire overseas workers more quickly.

作者: NewLynnHse 时间: 2018-6-27 12:29:08

Built in New Zealand, with local and imported labour

作者: 太极宗师001 时间: 2018-6-27 12:32:44

NewLynnHse 发表于 2018-6-27 12:29
Built in New Zealand, with local and imported labour

你这个有点某些东西的专业术语的意思哦

作者: 阿海 时间: 2018-6-27 12:37:58

Let's hope that the Labour government doesn't rush bills and legislation that have massive unintended consequences.

NZ had a major building crisis in the old building code that caused billions dollars in leaky homes.

Recent oversight in P contamination has cost tenants, tax payers, and private landlords hundreds of millions of dollars in unnecessary moving, and cleanup costs...

Last thing we want is another era of shocking building quality related issues!

作者: rzrljb 时间: 2018-6-27 12:47:09

感觉三万外劳盖房子会快很多

作者: lodn 时间: 2018-6-27 13:15:04

从天朝弄１０万来，建造就非常快　

作者: Bearonrun 时间: 2018-6-27 13:32:00

当前总理意向如何？？？

作者: sun2kiwi 时间: 2018-6-27 13:32:01

提示: 作者被禁止或删除内容自动屏蔽

作者: hunterfreak 时间: 2018-6-27 13:58:22

想引進三萬外勞本身就會是個大問題, 光是解決吃喝拉撒睡都不是一件小事

還有想從哪引進? 針對新西蘭的建築方式, 這裡培養一個正規builder, 電工, 水工得花多少年, 經歷多少理論跟實作的培訓? 這些外勞英文跟法規都不知道懂不懂來就直接幹活了?

作者: Chatbox 时间: 2018-6-27 14:07:33

hunterfreak 发表于 2018-6-27 13:58
想引進三萬外勞本身就會是個大問題, 光是解決吃喝拉撒睡都不是一件小事

還有想從哪引進? 針對新西蘭的建築 ...

又是三万移民哈哈哈，你说的对，没可能那么简单，目前都是纸上谈兵，没有一件扎实落地的东西。工党任期已经有大半年了，两年后，又要大选了。

作者: Turtle2017 时间: 2018-6-27 14:17:46

本帖最后由 Turtle2017 于 2018-6-27 14:35 编辑

首先，大量引入外劳是正确的方式，有助于解决住房危机。只是很奇怪工党的竞选政策会大幅转向，总理如何向老皮交待。

其次，有此事可见，工党的所谓执行力是狗屁。执行力的一般定义为，在设立目标或者计划后，执行并完成的能力和完成的程度。

工党的建筑劳工来源计划是自己培养，反对大量引入，曾经还以此指责国家党的外劳政策

http://money.skykiwi.com/realestate/2016-07-13/222702.shtml

http://politics.skykiwi.com/spec ... -07-14/244176.shtml

所以，又一次，工党的执行力，如果有的话，是负数。

作者: XPeedy 时间: 2018-6-27 14:28:39

Wow, large amount of Pilipino 客工are coming

作者: 为人民服务12345 时间: 2018-6-27 16:18:29

来的工人越多越好

作者: tianyalpangzi 时间: 2018-6-27 21:14:43

引进天朝工人就对了。天朝工人的战力会是这边的N倍。

作者: 我真不是孙红雷 时间: 2018-6-28 05:48:18

lodn 发表于 2018-6-27 13:15
从天朝弄１０万来，建造就非常快　

然后俩生一个又多出15万人口。如果都是男淫，那又多出20万

作者: 我真不是孙红雷 时间: 2018-6-28 05:49:57

tianyalpangzi 发表于 2018-6-27 21:14
引进天朝工人就对了。天朝工人的战力会是这边的N倍。

你这是犯了毛当年的错误，只知道多一双手，没想到多一张口，然后加剧房子短缺

作者: lianlian88 时间: 2018-6-28 09:16:56

我真不是孙红雷发表于 2018-6-28 05:49
你这是犯了毛当年的错误，只知道多一双手，没想到多一张口，然后加剧房子短缺 ...

现在这样引进也有相同的问题吧？

作者: bungyjumping999 时间: 2018-6-28 09:53:03

本帖最后由 bungyjumping999 于 2018-6-28 09:58 编辑

30,000 will try to find partners (relationship) here and stay back if they can. So, it might have multiplication effects.

Likely sources from Philippine, UK, Euro, Russia etc ( harsh countries where people need to move to find a better life). Not so sure if they will consider China, as labour government is sensitive to Chinese sounding names.

Another possibility to bring down housing price is Pre-fabricated homes, it will bring down the price to $1200 per sqm. Not including land. Land is appreciating item, building costs might come down by 40% ( assemble offsite at the factory and installation on site within a week)

作者: sun2kiwi 时间: 2018-6-28 09:58:00

提示: 作者被禁止或删除内容自动屏蔽

作者: bungyjumping999 时间: 2018-6-28 10:20:52

本帖最后由 bungyjumping999 于 2018-6-28 10:31 编辑

NewLynnHse 发表于 2018-6-27 12:29
Built in New Zealand, with local and imported labour

yes, those people can work in the factories for pre-fabricated houses. So, it is like factory workers in a car assembly line.

Installation will be by local kiwi on site.

It is a combination of imported labours and local faces.

Wait for a new disruption in the building industry........ land is appreciating item, but building costs will come down to $1200 per sqm for pre-fabricated homes (pre-casted concrete slab, steel framing).

Fletcher building is now doing the restructuring.......... more companies will follow suit.

作者: NewLynnHse 时间: 2018-6-28 10:41:27

bungyjumping999 发表于 2018-6-28 10:20
yes, those people can work in the factories for pre-fabricated houses. So, it is like factory worke ...

yeah，FB is too clumsy...haha, things like "agile" (spark), disrupt, etc is the trend these days

作者: bungyjumping999 时间: 2018-6-28 10:44:53

本帖最后由 bungyjumping999 于 2018-6-28 10:48 编辑

NewLynnHse 发表于 2018-6-28 10:41
yeah，FB is too clumsy...haha, things like "agile" (spark), disrupt, etc is the trend these days;0 ...

It might end up renovation is more expensive, as local kiwi (compliance) workers are in the market still continuing their charging rates.

New build (pre-fabricated homes) end up costs effective from imported labourers.
Location is still an important factor, as those factory-made houses will likely build in the far-away land and spotted HNZ areas.

作者: NewLynnHse 时间: 2018-6-28 10:46:02

bungyjumping999 发表于 2018-6-28 10:44
It might end up renovation is more expensive, as local kiwi (compliance) workers are in the market ...

can get 阿海's team to do renovation

作者: bungyjumping999 时间: 2018-6-28 10:51:55

本帖最后由 bungyjumping999 于 2018-6-28 10:53 编辑

NewLynnHse 发表于 2018-6-28 10:46
can get 阿海's team to do renovation

Good luck to tofu students.
Overseas investment amendment bill and pre-fabricated houses will be a major disruption.

作者: 我真不是孙红雷 时间: 2018-6-28 11:28:54

sun2kiwi 发表于 2018-6-28 09:58
如果中国现在人口少一半, GDP降一半.

科研经费少1半/科研人员少1半/科技投入少1半/科技水平掉一半.市场 ...

中国有8亿农民，实行小农制。我觉得如果大农制，人口别说少一半，就算少8亿，GDP照样现在这样，而且per capita就上来了，全球首富

作者: sun2kiwi 时间: 2018-6-28 12:06:31

提示: 作者被禁止或删除内容自动屏蔽

作者: 我真不是孙红雷 时间: 2018-6-28 13:24:37

sun2kiwi 发表于 2018-6-28 12:06
你这是老皇历了.
全世界都是工业补农业, 工业不行, 农业早跨了.

你这4折4折都是张张嘴就说的？美国4亿人口也没见这么多4折。就一点凭什么在信息时代军力就得打4折？你还往上堆人儿呢？市场规模4折你是纯自给自足啊？有没有点对外发展精神？说到底都是国家体制问题，你农业人口占8个亿还工业不行农业早夸了？谁说让工业夸了？驴唇不对马嘴，空军一向作风，整个自编自导大数据开始忽悠

作者: anzac_corp 时间: 2018-6-28 13:33:23

感觉工党比国家党还要国家党啊

有考虑过投工党的广大劳动人民的感受么？哈哈哈

作者: sun2kiwi 时间: 2018-6-28 13:55:46

提示: 作者被禁止或删除内容自动屏蔽

作者: Venox10111 时间: 2018-6-28 14:10:07

anzac_corp 发表于 2018-6-28 13:33
感觉工党比国家党还要国家党啊

有考虑过投工党的广大劳动人民的感受么？哈哈哈 ...

tradies 都是投的国家党。。。人家都做过调查了
投工党的很多都不是劳动人民。。。而且苦哈哈做 IT 的等

作者: 我真不是孙红雷 时间: 2018-6-28 14:14:36

sun2kiwi 发表于 2018-6-28 13:55
美国人口4亿, 美国科技水平高啊, 所以per GDP 高.
中国人口4折, 科技水平还下降了, per GDP 变低, G ...

你不能发展高的吗，人少了，就富了。尤其是到一个optimize的人口和资源比例。中国不敢是为了统治阶级需要，不是不能

作者: 房奴甲 时间: 2018-6-28 17:55:25

我真不是孙红雷发表于 2018-6-28 05:48
然后俩生一个又多出15万人口。如果都是男淫，那又多出20万

多好，新西兰不是男人荒么。

作者: love_3_month 时间: 2018-6-28 19:54:52

Venox10111 发表于 2018-6-28 14:10
tradies 都是投的国家党。。。人家都做过调查了
投工党的很多都不是劳动人民。。。而且苦哈哈做 IT 的等
...

有详细分布介绍吗

作者: sun2kiwi 时间: 2018-6-28 20:08:50

提示: 作者被禁止或删除内容自动屏蔽

作者: 开心花园 时间: 2018-6-30 14:17:49

嗯。。。。。。。。。。。

欢迎光临新西兰天维网社区 (http://bbs.skykiwi.com/)