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作者: love_3_month 时间: 2017-5-6 09:16:58 标题: 豆腐教主又要被喷了

详细看herald，我看其实是大实话啊。。。。

Ron's Top Tips

Look for the seven Ds

- Deceased estate - dead people don't need property - De bank (mortgagee sales) - can often be picked up cheaply - Deadline - 'motivated seller' facing looming deadline to sell house - Divorcee - Ex partner selling home cheap to prevent former spouse making money - Dummies - doesn't know the true market value of their home - Developers - may sell for below cost if facing bankruptcy - Desperate - anyone desperate to sell their house before the bank steps in

作者: park45 时间: 2017-5-6 09:39:13

详见视频;

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nation ... 5&gallery_id=175515

还有这篇相关报道：
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/proper ... p;objectid=11850187

这位同胞所advocate的是tactic还是exploitation and deception？这就是交了几万刀才能学到的秘诀吗？

作者: 微苦蓝山 时间: 2017-5-6 09:45:06

在商言商的话，这些思路是对的，因为比较容易占便宜，尤其是乘人之危
但做人做事都要有一些底线，堂而皇之开课大谈特谈如何乘人之危是否应该被鄙视，要看每个人心中的底线在哪里
当然，底线因人而异，有高有低，以此区别高尚和卑鄙！

作者: love_3_month 时间: 2017-5-6 09:53:33

文章里ron说，我是jp所以不会做坏事什么的

他就不怕如果有人真的要搞，给什么部门投诉取消他的jp吗。。。

作者: bungyjumping999 时间: 2017-5-6 09:55:46

本帖最后由 bungyjumping999 于 2017-5-6 09:09 编辑

The pattern of journalism in NZ. haha... not surprised.

1) They wrote about you, sometimes with elements of sarcasm, put you ( with journalist motive) in the limelight.

2) They used what you said, and shoot you down when the time is right. Tall poppy syndrome is very much at play in this small country.
Many books had written before what Ron had said, nothing new. they can pick on any investment book ( eg, Olly's book) along this topic. But you will see journalists is going to exploit this topic " to save the poor, to save nz, to protect the weak and vulnerable in this society" " let us march against capitalism and return our land to the people" " in the name of people, in the name of nz, please return our land"
it will make newspaper headlines and sensation. hahaha........

作者: xpd2000 时间: 2017-5-6 10:00:44

买买买

应该也算相持阶段了吧，豆腐教要大显神威了

作者: NewLynnHse 时间: 2017-5-6 10:22:44

https://www.facebook.com/nzherald.co.nz/posts/10154421767111302

新闻要和facebook的评论一起看才有意思。。。哈哈

作者: joyjoyjoy 时间: 2017-5-6 11:06:55

love_3_month 发表于 2017-5-6 08:53
文章里ron说，我是jp所以不会做坏事什么的

他就不怕如果有人真的要搞，给什么部门投诉取消他的jp吗。。。 ...

我靠，说到JP我就来气，昨天亲眼所见JP划车。可惜没有拍照，他死不承认

作者: love_3_month 时间: 2017-5-6 11:17:23

joyjoyjoy 发表于 2017-5-6 10:06
我靠，说到JP我就来气，昨天亲眼所见JP划车。可惜没有拍照，他死不承认

是的，我觉得他以身份来讨论具体事件，没有说服力

jp最多就说明，在拿到jp或者之前，是个品行端正的好人。不保证永远是好人啊。。。。

作者: NewLynnHse 时间: 2017-5-6 11:43:35

love_3_month 发表于 2017-5-6 10:17
是的，我觉得他以身份来讨论具体事件，没有说服力

jp最多就说明，在拿到jp或者之前，是个品行端正的好人 ...

新西兰的人办事很懒散，对于人格的审查估计也是这样吧，恋童癖的都能当老师。拿到JP也不能代表什么啊。

作者: qing_song 时间: 2017-5-6 12:00:51

虽然我不喜欢豆腐教，但我觉得这几个买房的窍门说的挺好，没啥毛病，lz不要小人之心度别人之腹了

作者: love_3_month 时间: 2017-5-6 12:42:23

qing_song 发表于 2017-5-6 11:00
虽然我不喜欢豆腐教，但我觉得这几个买房的窍门说的挺好，没啥毛病，lz不要小人之心度别人之腹了 ...

我也是这个意思，不过我估计很多人不会这么想

作者: keepower 时间: 2017-5-6 12:59:33

做生意都要有trick 有些被人看作不道德也正常不过开班收钱教这些好不好...

作者: dangessss 时间: 2017-5-6 13:27:29

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作者: 我真不是孙红雷 时间: 2017-5-6 14:05:43

问题是这些招现在还灵吗？

作者: 狂奔的蜗牛!!! 时间: 2017-5-6 14:45:23

素质太差了！

作者: 房奴甲 时间: 2017-5-6 15:05:43

其实这些跟商学院教那些都差不多。所以现在人们说哈佛是培养坏蛋的地方。就是贫富分化太严重了，富人做的太过分了。本来这些技巧从古至今就是商道，没什么新鲜的。什么事都不能太过分，杀鸡取蛋的结果就是饿死。

作者: clam 时间: 2017-5-6 21:54:05

房奴甲发表于 2017-5-6 14:05
其实这些跟商学院教那些都差不多。所以现在人们说哈佛是培养坏蛋的地方。就是贫富分化太严重了，富人做的太 ...

錯就錯在在NZ 的社會這話是華人說出來的就會被噴...

作者: 房奴甲 时间: 2017-5-6 22:08:44

clam 发表于 2017-5-6 20:54
錯就錯在在NZ 的社會這話是華人說出來的就會被噴...

Ron都第三代了，没用。。。。。

作者: NewLynnHse 时间: 2017-5-6 22:22:38

房奴甲发表于 2017-5-6 21:08
Ron都第三代了，没用。。。。。

黄皮肤就是黄皮肤，谁说洋人不歧视，鬼才信。。。哈哈

作者: 快乐123 时间: 2017-5-6 22:31:41

NewLynnHse 发表于 2017-5-6 21:22
黄皮肤就是黄皮肤，谁说洋人不歧视，鬼才信。。。哈哈

聊聊就歪楼了。这里似乎无关种族。还是那句老话：君子爱财，取之有道。

作者: clam 时间: 2017-5-6 23:45:41

看看herald的評論就知道和種族不無關係.... 一大堆人想要deport教主了.

作者: NewLynnHse 时间: 2017-5-7 00:45:13

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/mo ... -sales-tactics.html

Auckland property tycoon denies predatory sales tactics

An Auckland property tycoon is facing the heat after the release of a video showing some of his suggested sales techniques.

Ron Fong coaches property investors and has told them to target homeowners who are "divorcing, dumb or desperate".

However, Mr Fong is adamant he's not exploiting vulnerable people.

His property tips come courtesy of the letter "d".

People who he says are desperate, divorced, or dumb.

His video was sent to members of the Auckland Property Investors Association (APIA).

President Andrew Bruce admits he never watched it until today.

"Maybe I should have checked the video before we sent it out originally, but being a voluntary organisation and basically giving my time there's only so much time you've to, to actually checking all the content," he says.

But now he's concerned by Mr Fong's comments.

"No one likes seeing people taken advantage of. You know that's quite clear and we're not about that at all," he says.

Newshub caught up with Mr Fong on Saturday at a property seminar in Papamoa, near Tauranga.

"We're not exploiting in anyway. We are looking for opportunities; like in all business you look for opportunities," he says.

"We do not go knocking on old ladies' doors who just don't know what they're doing, we wouldn't do that."

The APIA says it's now been placed in an awkward situation with its sponsors. ANZ is now reviewing its sponsorship while another sponsor, Barfoot and Thompson, says it'll review the video next week.

Mr Fong told Newshub he's sorry for the use of the word "dummies" and believes some of the video was taken out of context.

Newshub.

作者: bungyjumping999 时间: 2017-5-7 06:39:51

本帖最后由 bungyjumping999 于 2017-5-7 05:51 编辑

The only trouble i can see is "putting multiple offers using fake names" , i think commerce commission will investigate this issue, and will likely bring some real estate agents who associated with the deal in trouble

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11851087

作者: jsmith2 时间: 2017-5-7 11:18:57

NewLynnHse 发表于 2017-5-6 09:22
https://www.facebook.com/nzherald.co.nz/posts/10154421767111302

新闻要和facebook的评论一起看才有意 ...

慘囉 facebook 狂噴

作者: jsmith2 时间: 2017-5-7 11:21:25

房奴甲发表于 2017-5-6 21:08
Ron都第三代了，没用。。。。。

沒有的，基因決定命運，誰叫你不是高等白人血統

作者: NewLynnHse 时间: 2017-5-7 12:04:49

jsmith2 发表于 2017-5-7 10:18
慘囉 facebook 狂噴

这个可能就是他们要的结果吧？我还是怀疑连这篇都可能是交了广告费的报道。。。哈哈哈哈

作者: 驴是念来过倒 时间: 2017-5-7 14:50:55

微苦蓝山发表于 2017-5-6 08:45
在商言商的话，这些思路是对的，因为比较容易占便宜，尤其是乘人之危
但做人做事都要有一些底线，堂而皇之 ...

这不仅仅是道德了，这在新西兰其实已经算违法了，这等于是misleading，操纵市场价格，赚取利润，违法了几条fair trading act的

作者: 阿海 时间: 2017-5-7 15:04:15

报纸线人告诉我的背后内幕是，这些一系列针对房地产投资者报道的都是工党在背后花钱写的。

基本有Phil Twiford的报道都是工党通过公关公司写的。

作者: jsmith2 时间: 2017-5-7 21:57:57

阿海发表于 2017-5-7 14:04
报纸线人告诉我的背后内幕是，这些一系列针对房地产投资者报道的都是工党在背后花钱写的。

基本有Phil Twi ...

你們的宣傳團隊要反擊啊，奪回輿論主導權吧。

作者: masterq 时间: 2017-5-7 22:11:35

阿海发表于 2017-5-7 14:04
报纸线人告诉我的背后内幕是，这些一系列针对房地产投资者报道的都是工党在背后花钱写的。

基本有Phil Twi ...

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