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作者: 117wik 时间: 2016-6-18 11:48:29 标题: Auckland IT salary

http://www.recruitit.co.nz/download/7904/

作者: MSSA 时间: 2016-6-18 13:10:05

C#的超过Java的了。

作者: markfu 时间: 2016-6-18 16:46:15

为什么实际工资和他们的统计相差还不是很小呢？哈哈

作者: technerd 时间: 2016-6-18 16:53:20

markfu 发表于 2016-6-18 16:46
为什么实际工资和他们的统计相差还不是很小呢？哈哈

因为这是招聘薪水，招聘公司发的的报告统计的是有招聘需求的客户通过招聘公司招人能提供的薪水。
一般估计薪水低的一些职位不需要找招聘中介就能填补到空缺。只有薪水相对较高的才找招聘中介。那么招聘中介统计出来的薪水就会比行业的平均薪水高一些。

如果看最大的招聘网站seek，看到的结果也会有这种感觉。

作者: 117wik 时间: 2016-6-18 16:54:10

markfu 发表于 2016-6-18 16:46
为什么实际工资和他们的统计相差还不是很小呢？哈哈

i find that for system, network and security, what's in the report represent a fair value of what people get paid in real life.

作者: tli004 时间: 2016-6-19 00:00:20

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作者: 117wik 时间: 2016-6-19 10:22:24

tli004 发表于 2016-6-19 00:00
这是一个公司的数据整理出来的？这个recruitit 大么？能占多少%的IT recruit market？ ...

no idea in terms of their market share, by the look of thing their figure are reasonably close to reality though.

作者: liuruihua 时间: 2016-6-19 11:53:18

I did not see any change and I have watched it for the last 6 years. The top for permanent is 120k. I really wish it can go to 200k like USA or 150k like Australia.

作者: 117wik 时间: 2016-6-19 13:31:09

liuruihua 发表于 2016-6-19 11:53
I did not see any change and I have watched it for the last 6 years. The top for permanent is 120k. ...

to be fair, NZ market is just too small for any company to be able to pay that sort of money. Many of us stay in NZ for work life balance and great place to raise family and not money right? :)

作者: liuruihua 时间: 2016-6-19 15:34:17

117wik 发表于 2016-6-19 13:31
to be fair, NZ market is just too small for any company to be able to pay that sort of money. Many ...

I worked till 9pm last Thursday night for an urgent job. My boss want me 2 days to finish a job. I doubt that work life balance could convince me about lower salary figure.

作者: 117wik 时间: 2016-6-19 15:37:47

liuruihua 发表于 2016-6-19 15:34
I worked till 9pm last Thursday night for an urgent job. My boss want me 2 days to finish a job. I ...

which is an indication that you need to either consider climbing the ladder (to get even better pay), or you need to change job (quite often in my team it's the exact opposite, my team member wants to work more hours not expecting to be paid extra, and i either told them to charge OT for extra hours spent, or encourage them to leave it till next day, for better work life balance).

作者: liuruihua 时间: 2016-6-19 15:55:17

117wik 发表于 2016-6-19 15:37
which is an indication that you need to either consider climbing the ladder (to get even better pa ...

Based on your url post, the top limit is 120k which won't worth consideration as I am working from home. If I switch job and not work at home, the extra time spent on road won't cover increase salary difference. I work for the current company for about six years and move to a new company which I will face some unknown challenges.

作者: 117wik 时间: 2016-6-19 16:06:00

liuruihua 发表于 2016-6-19 15:55
Based on your url post, the top limit is 120k which won't worth consideration as I am working from ...

wow you have the best in both world, working from home, and on top salary. Well done.

作者: liuruihua 时间: 2016-6-19 16:15:39

117wik 发表于 2016-6-19 16:06
wow you have the best in both world, working from home, and on top salary. Well done.

Just for clarification. No, I am not on top salary 120k.

作者: technerd 时间: 2016-6-19 20:58:12

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liuruihua 发表于 2016-6-19 15:34
I worked till 9pm last Thursday night for an urgent job. My boss want me 2 days to finish a job. I ...

work life balance只是总体上比较balance了，相对中国来说很少强制加班，没有一定要加班的暗示。
但具体到某一个行业某一个职位某一个公司某一个人某一个项目，会有忙和闲的时候。如果几个月有一个urgent job需要OT，那在IT行业已经是很好了。

不过奥克兰人上班很早啊，早上不到六点路上车就开始接近赌了。
不过你是给澳洲老板工作，是不是正好表明澳洲没有新西兰balance？

作者: liuruihua 时间: 2016-6-19 21:06:22

technerd 发表于 2016-6-19 20:58
work life balance只是总体上比较balance了，相对中国来说很少强制加班，没有一定要加班的暗示。
但具体到 ...

You are right. :-)

作者: 花夫堂 时间: 2016-6-21 22:58:06

117wik 发表于 2016-6-19 16:06
wow you have the best in both world, working from home, and on top salary. Well done.

congrants, king of show off, you got a good opponent.

作者: 117wik 时间: 2016-6-22 07:42:54

花夫堂发表于 2016-6-21 22:58
congrants, king of show off, you got a good opponent.

I am a bit confuse, since when has congratulating others become an act of show off? From memory i have never revealed my current salary to anyone in the forum, how is that show off? I have met 100+ people on skykiwi forum, i have helped reviewed CV, provide career guidance, help perform interview simulation etc etc and i do all that for free. I have even successfully hook up 10+ people to company i work for/have relationship with and got people a job (which mean they end up getting their PR because of it).

Rather than being a coward and just point finger and accuse others of some random thing, why don't you step up and do something good for your own community and help others out that are in need?

作者: rover_nz 时间: 2016-6-23 22:00:19

117wik 发表于 2016-6-22 07:42
I am a bit confuse, since when has congratulating others become an act of show off? From memory i ...

Hi, im 4 years experience using ASP.NET, ASP MVC/AngularJs, Web API, focus on web solutions/SPA, what you see my market value ? Im going to an interview for a position as intermediate or senior developer title, currently on 62k, how much should i ask for ? Thanks!

作者: 117wik 时间: 2016-6-24 07:22:54

rover_nz 发表于 2016-6-23 22:00
Hi, im 4 years experience using ASP.NET, ASP MVC/AngularJs, Web API, focus on web solutions/SPA, wh ...

Sorry, not the best person to answer this. I don't work in the software development space and hence have no idea what should be a fair salary for someone with 4 years experience.

作者: liuruihua 时间: 2016-6-24 08:31:37

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rover_nz 发表于 2016-6-23 22:00
Hi, im 4 years experience using ASP.NET, ASP MVC/AngularJs, Web API, focus on web solutions/SPA, wh ...

I will answer for you.

Obviously your current salary is quite low.
Depends on the projects you did in the past based on following points, I will put you on 90k+ as permanent employee. Also depends on employer, the potential employer will pay you 70k. Obvious there is a difference, it is up to you now. :-)

How rich is your potential employer?Will the potential employer willing to share profit?
How famous the website you wrote
How great the websites are
How fast user experience the website response
How many concurrent connections the website
How you manage to write maintainable, clean, efficient codeHow quick you finish a feature
How quich you fix a bug
Unit testing
How good is your communication? Can you understand your boss's requirement?Are you eager to solve the problem you boss face? etc

I think that I can manage to get all full score in my boss's view :-)

作者: MSSA 时间: 2016-6-25 18:18:07

rover_nz 发表于 2016-6-23 22:00
Hi, im 4 years experience using ASP.NET, ASP MVC/AngularJs, Web API, focus on web solutions/SPA, wh ...

取决于你的面试和你的CV，还有你的经历（你都做了什么，是做过完整的project，还是给人打杂fix bug,是主力dev还是support person）。

4年的经验话从市场角度说只能算是intermediate level，算strong intermediate的话大概80k往上。但是鉴于你现在62k，你至少要70k以上，如果你的经历很过硬，面试表现出色，建议要80k以上，90k不太现实因为90k可以算senior了。
还有切记不要告诉对方你现在拿多少。

作者: liuruihua 时间: 2016-6-25 20:29:20

MSSA 发表于 2016-6-25 18:18
取决于你的面试和你的CV，还有你的经历（你都做了什么，是做过完整的project，还是给人打杂fix bug,是主力 ...

The most important thing is to select the right employer. If the boss is rich, you as a employee will be rich too. :-)

I used to work for a company which considered to be very big has around 30 developers and have office in Australia, nz, uk, Europe, usa. The general manager told us in the meeting every year to say we were given market price upper level. I was senior software engineer in the company working for eleven years at the time I left the company salary was 72k year 2011. I will not consider this as upper level.

I think that I disclosed my previous salary will benefit our fellow developers :-)

作者: rover_nz 时间: 2016-6-27 00:00:04

liuruihua 发表于 2016-6-25 20:29
The most important thing is to select the right employer. If the boss is rich, you as a employee w ...

72k for a senior dev, cant believe it ...

作者: rover_nz 时间: 2016-6-27 00:00:39

MSSA 发表于 2016-6-25 18:18
取决于你的面试和你的CV，还有你的经历（你都做了什么，是做过完整的project，还是给人打杂fix bug,是主力 ...

说了70k 结果他们直接答应了。。。。。

作者: rover_nz 时间: 2016-6-27 00:05:00

liuruihua 发表于 2016-6-24 08:31
I will answer for you.

Obviously your current salary is quite low.

its' hard to describe my skills, have used many many... different technologies for different projects as working in consultancy company. But, im a solid problem solver technically, if i cant solve it, then others cant solve it too. One of My specialty is Javascript on front end, which it's my core asset.

作者: liuruihua 时间: 2016-6-27 08:43:18

rover_nz 发表于 2016-6-27 00:00
说了70k 结果他们直接答应了。。。。。

Congratulations

It took me around 14 years to get 72k

作者: liuruihua 时间: 2016-6-27 08:46:53

rover_nz 发表于 2016-6-27 00:00
72k for a senior dev, cant believe it ...

I was in cad design company writing cad design software, bill of material, quote, order, interface to sap/erp system.

作者: technerd 时间: 2016-6-27 13:12:07

rover_nz 发表于 2016-6-27 00:00
说了70k 结果他们直接答应了。。。。。

恭喜Rover又跳槽成功，工资又涨了！

作者: rover_nz 时间: 2016-6-27 23:28:10

technerd 发表于 2016-6-27 13:12
恭喜Rover又跳槽成功，工资又涨了！

哈哈你还记得我啊，上次跳槽就是你回我的多谢吉言啊我这次不打算跳了感觉涨幅不大。。。而且我还是喜欢奥克兰多一点。。。有空一起吃饭吧

作者: rover_nz 时间: 2016-6-27 23:28:58

liuruihua 发表于 2016-6-27 08:43
Congratulations

It took me around 14 years to get 72k

dude, how's it now, now you got like 18 years experience, should be 120k?

作者: liuruihua 时间: 2016-6-28 08:32:27

rover_nz 发表于 2016-6-27 23:28
dude, how's it now, now you got like 18 years experience, should be 120k?

I have 21 years experience and I am not at 120k.

作者: liuruihua 时间: 2016-6-28 09:09:51

rover_nz 发表于 2016-6-27 23:28
哈哈你还记得我啊，上次跳槽就是你回我的多谢吉言啊我这次不打算跳了感觉涨幅不大。。。而且我还 ...

I was thinking that you live in Christchurch. I suggested before to ask more i.e. 90k

作者: technerd 时间: 2016-7-2 12:33:22

rover_nz 发表于 2016-6-27 23:28
哈哈你还记得我啊，上次跳槽就是你回我的多谢吉言啊我这次不打算跳了感觉涨幅不大。。。而且我还 ...

恩。
你现在只要保持学习，积累经验和能力，以后肯定会继续涨的，空间还能大。不需要换一座城。

作者: liuruihua 时间: 2016-7-2 18:45:40

technerd 发表于 2016-7-2 12:33
恩。
你现在只要保持学习，积累经验和能力，以后肯定会继续涨的，空间还能大。不需要换一座城。 ...

I think there are too many asp.net web programmers in nz and the market is full. It is very hard to get higher salary in nz.

作者: rover_nz 时间: 2016-7-3 01:34:47

technerd 发表于 2016-7-2 12:33
恩。
你现在只要保持学习，积累经验和能力，以后肯定会继续涨的，空间还能大。不需要换一座城。 ...

拒绝之后，昨天打电话过来涨到75k了问我过去吗我觉得奥克兰我可能会有更多？

作者: rover_nz 时间: 2016-7-3 01:35:43

liuruihua 发表于 2016-7-2 18:45
I think there are too many asp.net web programmers in nz and the market is full. It is very hard t ...

微软的现在我主要用数据库 API 开发，然后其他的都是Js了

作者: liuruihua 时间: 2016-7-3 08:12:39

rover_nz 发表于 2016-7-3 01:35
微软的现在我主要用数据库 API 开发，然后其他的都是Js了

Same, no difference

作者: liuruihua 时间: 2016-7-3 08:15:29

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rover_nz 发表于 2016-7-3 01:34
拒绝之后，昨天打电话过来涨到75k了问我过去吗我觉得奥克兰我可能会有更多？ ...

This mean the renegotiate process is starting again :-)

Ask 80k to go to Christchurch or some figure bigger if you want to be outside Auckland. You have nothing to lose.
Don't regret again. That is not professional from my point of view.

You will face lots of competition in Auckland for sure.

作者: rover_nz 时间: 2016-7-3 10:51:52

本帖最后由 rover_nz 于 2016-7-3 10:53 编辑

liuruihua 发表于 2016-7-3 08:15
This mean the renegotiate process is starting again :-)

Ask 80k to go to Christchurch or some figu ...

I like compete senior with expertise in my area, i like to compete juniors with learning speed. I sharpen my skills every night, I like the feeling winning on other ppl, particular whos much senior than me, lol

作者: rover_nz 时间: 2016-7-3 10:53:01

liuruihua 发表于 2016-7-3 08:15
This mean the renegotiate process is starting again :-)

Ask 80k to go to Christchurch or some figu ...

I'll stay Auckland if there is more competition.

作者: shixiawg 时间: 2016-7-3 13:56:46

本帖最后由 shixiawg 于 2016-7-3 16:52 编辑

Changed my mind. Don't want to share this anymore.

作者: technerd 时间: 2016-7-4 12:27:51

liuruihua 发表于 2016-7-2 18:45
I think there are too many asp.net web programmers in nz and the market is full. It is very hard t ...

至少他可以向你看齐，涨到你这个水平就很不错啊

作者: liu_yu_1980 时间: 2016-7-4 16:20:58

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