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作者: DonChak 时间: 2016-4-26 15:53:47 标题: 1209表格必须要填吗？

求助各位大神，我EOI选中后收到ITA ，但是附件里没有1209表格，checklist也没有写。看到很多帖子都说需要填写1209表格，在犹豫要不要填。
请问有没有哪个朋友没有被要求交1209表格，最后顺利审批的？

作者: nb0580 时间: 2016-4-26 15:59:27

应该是必填的，多填了也不要紧。填不填跟抽中NSC与否没关系。

作者: GETAGATE 时间: 2016-4-26 16:09:01

不能把。必须要填写啊。。。要不怎么查您父母的学历和工作经历？

作者: DonChak 时间: 2016-4-26 16:32:58

不好意思，没说清楚，是技术移民EOI, ITA 清单里没有1209表格。就是看到大家都说有收到，犹豫要不要自己另外下载表格加上去

作者: lydiading 时间: 2016-4-26 18:12:53

必须填的，即使checklist里没有，CO也会让你补交的

作者: DonChak 时间: 2016-4-26 23:02:36

谢谢各位回复，现在开始填表

作者: Centrallandscap 时间: 2016-4-27 17:35:00

nb0580 发表于 2016-4-26 14:59
应该是必填的，多填了也不要紧。填不填跟抽中NSC与否没关系。

Do you mean someone may not have the NSC but some applicators have?
Sorry I can't type Chinese at work.

作者: nb0580 时间: 2016-4-28 09:23:25

本帖最后由 nb0580 于 2016-4-28 08:28 编辑

Centrallandscap 发表于 2016-4-27 16:35
Do you mean someone may not have the NSC but some applicators have?
Sorry I can't type Chinese at ...

移民局网站上说：
A NSC is completed by a third party but we are not able to reveal the source. All applicants for temporary or residence applications must meet character requirements, and a National Security Check may form a part of the character check.
所以理论上是每个人都要被NSC，既然每个人都要被NSC，那就必填这个表格。

然后个人猜测一下，两种可能：
（1）真的每个人都会被NSC，不填表和填表都没关系，没填估计还会让你再补；
（2）只是相当比例的人会被NSC，但是移民局默认每个人都必填NSC，所以还是会让你补。

作者: Centrallandscap 时间: 2016-4-28 10:04:56

nb0580 发表于 2016-4-28 08:23
移民局网站上说：
A NSC is completed by a third party but we are not able to reveal the source. Al ...

Thanks a lot for your help!

作者: nb0580 时间: 2016-4-28 10:57:21

本帖最后由 nb0580 于 2016-4-28 10:16 编辑

Centrallandscap 发表于 2016-4-28 09:04
Thanks a lot for your help!

对于是否每个人都真的都被NSC，我大致看了一下移民相关法律法规，当然我不是法科生出身，也不是移民顾问之类的，可能有误：

初级立法：
Immigration Act 2009 - Section 33 (1)
Classified information may be relied on in making decisions or determining proceedings under this Act if the Minister determines that the classified information relates to matters of security or criminal conduct.
（我理解的大致意思是：出于安全与犯罪考量，分类信息可以被作为做出结论或者确定侦讯的依据。）
Classified information（分类信息，不知道这个翻译合适不合适）在Immigration Act 2009 - Section 7里有定义，太长，大致看了下，就是移民局委托其他机构获取的信息，而且不会对外披露。但是注意一个措辞“may be relied on”，不是must，这就赋予了移民局一定的自行斟酌的权力。

二级立法：
Immigration (Visa, Entry Permission, and Related Matters) Regulations 2010 - Section 5 (2)
An application must be—
(a) made on the approved form; and
(b) completed in English; and
(c) signed by the applicant (unless the applicant is less than 18 years old, in which case it must be signed by a parent or guardian of the applicant); and
(d) given to an immigration officer together with the following material:
(i) the applicant’s passport or certificate of identity or, if that is unavailable, his or her original full birth certificate (or a certified copy) or other identity document (or a certified copy); and
(ii) 2 passport-sized photographs of the applicant’s head and shoulders; and
(iia) [Revoked]
(iii) the information and evidence required by the relevant immigration instructions to demonstrate that the applicant fits the category or categories of immigration instructions under which the application is being made; and
(iv) any other information, evidence, or submissions that the applicant considers shows that he or she is eligible to be granted a visa in terms of the immigration instructions; and
...........（太多，不列出来了）
（我理解的大致意思是：移民局，依据这个法规，来问你要的信息、让你填的表格，你就必须提供。）

实践流程：
Immigration New Zealand Operational Manual - Residence - A5.1
Applicants for all visas must:
a. be of good character; and
b. not pose a potential security risk.
If any person included in the application fails to meet the necessary character requirements and the character requirements are not waived, the application may be declined.
（我理解的大致意思是：签证申请人需要有良好品行而且没有潜在的安全风险才可能获批。）

所以综上所述，大多数签证申请人，至少居民签证级别的申请，基本都要被NSC，但是是不是真的百分之百覆盖的NSC，不好说，法律还是给移民局留出了一定的弹性空间，当然这是针对移民局的弹性，不是针对申请人本身。

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