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作者: xiebingxing 时间: 2015-8-18 15:46:51 标题: 推荐专做淋浴房检测的公司
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作者: :TicklyRain: 时间: 2015-8-18 15:49:25
好恐怖!!!帮楼主顶!!!
作者: 赛美广告 时间: 2015-8-18 15:50:13
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作者: Robbi 时间: 2015-8-18 15:50:51
买的时候有builders report?
作者: atnz 时间: 2015-8-18 15:51:30
本帖最后由 atnz 于 2015-8-18 14:58 编辑
福清那边的玻璃啦,密度分布不均就这样..................
叫你要面子,买新房
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即使是
所谓洋人大公司
都是层层转包
谁便宜谁做
最后无一例外
华人老板雇中国学生
所以
All made in china !
叫你要面子,买新房
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作者: Spring.Miao 时间: 2015-8-18 15:51:56
W T F !!!
作者: DEY828 时间: 2015-8-18 15:52:17
虽然很同情 但你这的确是个案 BUILDER说的没错啊
作者: ceciliazdd 时间: 2015-8-18 15:52:36
请PM一下你房子的地址,还有builder的名字,买房子时离他们远点
作者: jap7jap7 时间: 2015-8-18 15:53:13
这图片有点血腥啊 赶紧去吃包辣条 压压惊先。坐等LZ维权更新。
作者: lurenjia 时间: 2015-8-18 15:54:03
Builder report不查这个质量的吧。可能本身质量也有问题,那最好曝光给主流媒体看看
作者: kiwifishman 时间: 2015-8-18 15:54:12
真心觉得现在新房的质量太差了 开发商为了谋取利润 质量没把关.多少几十年代老房子 也没出现过这种问题. 新房一般都有10 warrenty . 浴室厨房估计也是外包给其他公司做的吧 曝光媒体 fairgo
作者: yueshus 时间: 2015-8-18 15:55:53
这也太恐怖了
作者: kickboxer 时间: 2015-8-18 15:56:08
Robbi 发表于 2015-8-18 14:50
买的时候有builders report?
buider report哪里查这么细啊!再说这个根本查不出来!
作者: monkeybaby 时间: 2015-8-18 15:56:09
麻烦pm下大体的地址和开发商的名字,这太可怕了
作者: chaor 时间: 2015-8-18 15:57:44
我觉得是通风口被堵住了,然后通风太差,热气太多,进入后膨胀,像一个气球,然后炸了……
作者: jackauckland 时间: 2015-8-18 15:57:51
kiwifishman 发表于 2015-8-18 14:54
真心觉得现在新房的质量太差了 开发商为了谋取利润 质量没把关.多少几十年代老房子 也没出现过这种问题. 新 ...
10年的warranty那是master builder或kiwi,一般华人就给几个月,最多的听说过6个月的。很少有几年的!
作者: monkeybaby 时间: 2015-8-18 15:58:58
10年的warranty包的也是建筑结构,楼主也可以看一下这个淋浴房有没有生产厂家
作者: jackauckland 时间: 2015-8-18 15:59:06
这玻璃冒似质量合格,因为破碎的时候是成细粒的。。。。
作者: wsyswg 时间: 2015-8-18 15:59:07
卧槽!!!劳烦请楼主PM一下builder的信息,买新房时根本不会考虑这些问题啊...这些人太无良了NND。希望您丈夫早日康复。
作者: yax 时间: 2015-8-18 15:59:49
我的出租房的浴室玻璃也是无外力自己粉碎了。好在当时房客不在家。自责不该贪便宜买华人的卫浴。
作者: 兔宝宝快快长大 时间: 2015-8-18 16:00:33
monkeybaby 发表于 2015-8-18 14:56
麻烦pm下大体的地址和开发商的名字,这太可怕了
麻烦pm下大体的地址和开发商的名字,这太可怕了
作者: CWF895 时间: 2015-8-18 16:02:30
本帖最后由 CWF895 于 2015-8-18 15:15 编辑
先上这里看看你相关的责权利,
http://www.consumeraffairs.govt.nz/for-consumers
https://www.consumer.org.nz/articles/building-guarantees
然后保留所有证据,根据条款,去小额争议法庭去起诉相关责任方(开发商)。关键要证明不是你人为损坏(例如:不小心被东西砸坏),而是纯粹因为施工质量(例:各种角度没对齐或变形导致浴室玻璃扭曲)或产品本身的质量问题(劣质玻璃,耐不住温差)
http://www.justice.govt.nz/tribu ... unal/making-a-claim
这种小CASE如果英文尚可,个人感觉没必要找律师,自己搞就行
[size=1.1em][size=1em]Building guarantees are supposed to offer you peace of mind if you're building or renovating a house. We assess the major guarantees available – including a new product that covers remedial work on leaky homes – and make the case for a government-backed scheme.
Legal protectionsThere are legal protections which are supposed to guarantee that any building work on your house is “fit for purpose”. But they don’t always help if your building project goes belly up.
Implied warranties
All residential building work is covered by the warranties set out in the Building Act.
The most important of them state that building work must be done competently and completed within a certain timeframe.
However, it's difficult to enforce these warranties for shoddy building work. You can:
- File your dispute with the Disputes Tribunal (but only if you're claiming for less than $15,000 – or $20,000 with the agreement of both parties).
- Opt for adjudication or arbitration (but fees can range from several thousand dollars to tens of thousands of dollars).
- Lodge a claim with the Weathertight Homes Tribunal (but only if you have a leaky home built or altered within the past 10 years).
- Take your case to court (but this is costly, time-consuming and stressful).
Licensed building practitioners
You now need to hire a licensed building practitioner (LBP) to carry out or supervise work that influences the structural integrity or weather-tightness of your home. The licensing scheme is meant to ensure that major work is done by competent tradespeople who can be held accountable if anything goes wrong.
Under the scheme, you can make a complaint to the Building Practitioners Board if an LBP has done a sub-standard job on your house. The board can cancel the practitioner's licence and impose a fine – but it can't award reparation. So you'll still be out of pocket.
Private building guarantees
Private building guarantees are designed to plug this gap in consumer protection.
The Certified Builders Association of New Zealand and the Registered Master Builders Federation (see below) provide the main guarantees available here (although some independent companies, such as Signature Homes, also offer guarantees to cover their own work).
The Department of Building and Housing estimates 50 percent of new builds are covered by guarantees from 1 of the 2 main suppliers.
Builtin New Zealand guaranteesBuiltin New Zealand administers the Certified Builders Association of New Zealand (CBANZ) guarantee, which is called the Homefirst 10-Year Builders Guarantee.
It also offers the Homefirst 7-Year Builders Guarantee and a WaterTight Warranty for remedial work on leaky homes. The guarantees and warranty are underwritten by CBL Insurance Limited.
A Homefirst 10-Year Guarantee is only available if you’ve hired a builder who belongs to the CBANZ.
The Homefirst 7-Year Guarantee and the WaterTight Warranty don't limit your choice of builder as much. You can apply for one of these if you hire an independent builder – but Builtin New Zealand will have to approve your choice of builder first.
The cost of these Builtin New Zealand guarantees depends on the cost of your building contract and your level of cover. Each guarantee has 3 different levels of cover:
- Full Contract covers the entire building project, including materials and subcontractors. But you must let your builder manage the project on your behalf.
- Carpentry Labour Only covers only the builder's workmanship. You're responsible for the work of the subcontractors and the quality of the building materials.
- Kitset Loss of Deposit covers your deposit on a building kitset if the builder goes bust and you don't receive the materials you've purchased. Builtin New Zealand assures us that rot and fungal decay will be covered by the Homefirst guarantees if it’s caused by a defect.
For a building project worth $350,000, a Full Contract Homefirst 10-Year Guarantee would cost between $1000 and $1200 (see "Guarantees compared", below). It’d cost between $600 and $700 if you opted for the Carpentry Labour Only option.
Master Build guaranteesMaster Build Services provides the 3 guarantees offered by the Registered Master Builders Federation:
- Master Build 10-Year Standard Guarantee
- Master Build 10-Year Classic Guarantee
- Master Build 10-Year Premium Guarantee.
A Master Build Services guarantee is only available if you hire a Registered Master Builder to work on your building project. There are no exceptions.
Each of these 3 guarantees offers a different level of cover:
- The Standard covers loss of deposit, non-completion, and both structural and non-structural defects in materials or workmanship but not rot and fungal decay. You can reduce the cost of this guarantee by opting out of the loss-of-deposit and the non-completion cover.
- The Classic covers defects in materials, workmanship and structure, plus rot and fungal decay.
- The Premium is basically a combination of the Standard and Classic guarantees. It covers loss of deposit; non-completion; defects in workmanship, materials and structure; plus rot and fungal decay.
The Standard guarantee costs a fixed price of $1200 (or $900 if you opt out of the cover for loss of deposit and non-completion).
The other 2 Master Build guarantees are based on a percentage of the work you’re having done. The Classic costs 0.55 percent of the work ($1925 if the contract’s worth $350,000). The Premium costs 0.70 percent ($2450 if your contract's $350,000).
The Classic and Premium guarantees offer cover for rot or fungal decay up to a maximum of $500,000 for a period of 10 years. The hitch here is that your house's design must score 12 or lower on the Department of Building and Housing's "Acceptable Solution E2/AS1 Risk Matrix", which puts numbers on the risk of a house leaking:
- Low risk = 0 to 6
- Medium risk = 7 to 12
- High risk = 13 to 20
- Very high risk = over 20.
So Master Build Services' rot and fungal decay cover is available only for low- or medium-risk houses – which already have a reasonable chance of being weather-tight. (See "The risk of leaks", below, for more details of the "risk matrix".)
Guarantees comparedPrices quoted here are based on a building contract worth $350,000. The basic cover listed is the maximum offered by each guarantee and depends on the limitations stated in each guarantee.
Builtin New ZealandHomefirst 7-Year Builders Guarantee
- Price: $1000-1200
- Loss of deposit: 20 percent of contract price or $50,000 (whichever is less)
- Non-completion: 20 percent of contract price or $100,000 (whichever is less)
- Defects (non-structural/structural): $100,000 (2 years/7 years)
- Rot and fungal decay: Covered if result of defect
Homefirst 10-Year Builders Guarantee
- Price: $1000-1200
- Loss of deposit: 20 percent of contract price or $50,000 (whichever is less)
- Non-completion: 20 percent of contract price or $100,000 (whichever is less)
- Defects (non-structural/structural): $100,000 (2 years/10 years)
- Rot and fungal decay: Covered if result of defect
Master Build ServicesMaster Build 10-Year Standard Guarantee
- Price: $1200 (fixed price whatever the value of the building contract)
- Loss of deposit: 5 percent of contract price or $15,000 (whichever is less)
- Non-completion: 10 percent of contract price or $30,000 (whichever is less)
- Defects (non-structural/structural): $100,000 (2 years/10 years)
- Rot and fungal decay: n/a
Master Build 10-Year Classic Guarantee
- Price: $1925
- Loss of deposit: n/a
- Non-completion: n/a
- Defects (non-structural/structural): $500,000 (2 years/10 years)
- Rot and fungal decay: $500,000 (10 years)
Master Build 10-Year Premium Guarantee
- Price: $2450
- Loss of deposit: 5 percent of contract price or $25,000 (whichever is less)
- Non-completion: 10 percent of contract price or $40,000 (whichever is less)
- Defects (non-structural/structural): $500,000 (2 years/10 years)
- Rot and fungal decay: $500,000 (10 years)
Limitations and exclusionsThese guarantees have some common limitations and exclusions. These include:
Consequential damage
The guarantees don't cover consequential damage. So your leaky roof will be fixed (provided it falls within the scope of the guarantee) but your water-stained curtains won’t be. However, Builtin New Zealand's two Homefirst Guarantees will cover the cost of alternative accommodation, and the removal and storage of household belongings for up to 30 days.
Damage covered by other insurance
The guarantees don't cover damage or loss that's already covered by another insurance contract. However, the Homefirst Guarantees will pay excess costs if the "first-resort" insurance contract doesn't fully cover you.
Variations to the building schedule
The guarantees won't cover variations to your building schedule unless you clear the variation with the guarantor first.
Remedial work
The guarantees won't cover defects if you take repairs into your own hands (for instance, if you hire a second builder to clean up the first builder's mess) unless you clear the repairs with your guarantor first.
Emergency repairs
The guarantees won't cover damage to your house caused by a defect unless you've taken reasonable steps to prevent the damage. So you can hire an after-hours builder to plug a sudden leak in your roof – but you must try to notify your guarantor first.
The onus is on youA building guarantee doesn't free you from your responsibilities as a building owner. You still need to:
- Agree a contract with your chosen builder.
- Get building consent from your local authority.
- Monitor your progress payments as work is completed.
- Make sure council inspections take place as scheduled.
- Sign a Notice of Practical Completion with your builder.
- Apply for a Code Compliance Certificate from your local council.
Not carrying out any of your responsibilities as an owner can limit your cover.
No guarantee is a substitute for carefully selecting your builder. Check your builder's licence (www.business.govt.nz), qualifications, past projects and testimonials before signing a contract. Visit the Companies Office website to see if the director of the building company has gone into liquidation in the past.
Making a claim
To make a successful claim under your guarantee, you’ll need to be well-versed in its fine print. Make sure you understand the process for notifying the guarantee scheme of any defects (always in writing) and any time limits for lodging a claim.
The Queensland systemQueensland has a system of home-warranty insurance that acts much like a private building guarantee. It covers loss of deposit, defects and non-completion of work. And (like other guarantees) it won't cover damage or loss that's already covered by another insurance contract.
But in Queensland, builders – not consumers – are required to obtain warranty insurance from the Building Services Authority (BSA) for residential building work worth more than $3300.
The BSA is also a statutory authority, rather than a private outfit. As well as the insurance scheme, it's responsible for disputes resolution and mandatory licensing of all contractors. Among its powers, the BSA can:
- Record instances where a builder has failed to rectify a defect (the records are publicly available).
- Revoke a builder's licence.
- Recover costs from the builder if it has to pay insurance cover to a homeowner.
- Fine dishonest or incompetent builders $2000 and pursue further penalties (up to $25,000) through the Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal.
New South Wales has also moved to a form of statutory home warranty insurance. NSW Fair Trading offers a free building dispute resolution service. If the service fails, the state's Consumer, Trader and Tenancy Tribunal can hear building claims up to $500,000.
In 2011, as part of the Building Act review here, the Department of Building and Housing (DBH) mulled over the regulation of building guarantees. One alternative was a government-run surety product that could compete with the existing guarantees.
In the end, the government decided against regulating guarantees until other Building Act reforms had "bedded in".
It also recommended that the DBH develop further information and guidance "to help homeowners understand and manage the risks associated with the current suite of guarantee products and services in the building sector ...". The guidance hasn't been produced yet.
Our view- A government-backed home warranty insurance system (like Queensland's) should be introduced here. It would provide better consumer protection than private guarantees.
- A statutory building-disputes tribunal would give homeowners a better chance of having poor-quality building work rectified. Building disputes are often complex and technical – there should be a specialist bod
作者: ianiris 时间: 2015-8-18 16:02:33
浴室玻璃要用安全玻璃, 看玻璃破的样子是安全玻璃,只能说这块玻璃质量有问题, 但玻璃本身通过政府验证的机会很大。这是玻璃厂的问题。
作者: monkeybaby 时间: 2015-8-18 16:03:01
楼主赶快找找生产这个shower box的厂家,房屋买卖合同里,builder和开发商应该不会负责这个的
作者: chaor 时间: 2015-8-18 16:05:12
这个是不是那种全封闭的淋浴,然后因为实在是通风地方小,意外堵住了,造成热气外泄不出
作者: skywindcn 时间: 2015-8-18 16:11:27
这还能不能愉快的洗澡了
作者: kingscat 时间: 2015-8-18 16:15:44
学习了,以后要买质量好的
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浴室推门钢化玻璃为什么会爆炸?昨晚12点时听到爆炸声,到浴室一看就一地钢化玻璃碎片,这是什么原因.以后怎样防止再发生
浴室推门钢化玻璃为什么会爆炸?
昨晚12点时听到爆炸声,到浴室一看就一地钢化玻璃碎片,这是什么原因.以后怎样防止再发生
奶茶04386 2014-10-13
优质解答
产生自爆的原因很多,简单地归纳以下几种:
①玻璃质量缺陷的影响
A.玻璃中有结石、杂质:玻璃中有杂质是钢化玻璃的薄弱点,也是应力集中处.特别是结石若处在钢化玻璃的张应力区是导致炸裂的重要因素.
结石存在于玻璃中,与玻璃体有着不同的膨胀系数.玻璃钢化后结石周围裂纹区域的应力集中成倍地增加.当结石膨胀系数小于玻璃,结石周围的切向应力处于受拉状态.伴随结石而存在的裂纹扩展极易发生.
B.玻璃中含有硫化镍结晶物
硫化镍夹杂物一般以结晶的小球体存在,直径在0.1—2㎜.外表呈金属状,这些杂夹物是NI3S2,NI7S6和NI—XS,其中X=0—0.07.只有NI1—XS相是造成钢化玻璃自发炸碎的主要原因.
已知理论上的NIS在379.C时有一相变过程,从高温状态的a—NIS六方晶系转变为低温状态B—NI三方晶系过程中,伴随出现2.38%的体积膨胀.这一结构在室温时保存下来.如果以后玻璃受热就可能迅速出现a—B态转变.如果这些杂物在钢化玻璃受张应力的内部,则体积膨胀会引起自发炸裂.如果室温时存在a—NIS,经过数年、数月也会慢慢转变到B态,在这一相变过程中体积缓慢增大未必造成内部破裂.
C.玻璃表面因加工过程或操作不当造成有划痕、炸口、深爆边等缺陷,易造成应力集中或导致钢化玻璃自爆.
②钢化玻璃中应力分布不均匀、偏移
玻璃在加热或冷却时沿玻璃厚度方向产生的温度梯度不均匀、不对称.使钢化制品有自爆的趋向,有的在激冷时就产生“风爆”.如果张应力区偏移到制品的某一边或者偏移到表面则钢化玻璃形成自爆.
③钢化程度的影响,实验证明,当钢化程度提高到1级/㎝时自爆数达20—25%.由此可见应力越大钢化程度越高,自爆量也越大.
由此,为了避免再次发生,建议选择质量较好的钢化玻璃,还要尽量避免或减少浴室很热的水直接接触冰凉的玻璃
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作者: nz大猫 时间: 2015-8-18 16:17:01
大概看了一下淋浴房的构造, 个人觉得你这个并不是厂家生产的淋浴房,所以怪不到厂家或玻璃供应商,主要原因,我估计就是安装玻璃直接固定在墙壁和地面,各个交界部位全部卡死,而木结构房子有比较大的movement导致玻璃受到压力而爆炸,这也不是温度通风的问题。所以应该找安装这种淋浴房的人.顺便说一句,遇到这种围一圈玻璃的淋浴房我是不会考虑的.本身也很容易漏水..应该买那种整体淋浴比较可靠。
作者: 逗逗 时间: 2015-8-18 16:17:40
连洗个澡都有危险,真是我去年买了个表啊
作者: pangxinzhu 时间: 2015-8-18 16:17:56
好可怕啊, 这到底是什么问题啊, 总不能炸了白炸吧! 楼主一家很无辜啊
作者: honeybabesc 时间: 2015-8-18 16:18:39
台灣塵爆, 中國化工爆, 泰國炸彈爆, 現在連nz 洗澡都爆.......是不是沒有開通風的
作者: zzz666 时间: 2015-8-18 16:23:19
楼主,同情你!
作者: oplwy 时间: 2015-8-18 16:25:28
玻璃爆炸为什么。 不明白。
作者: denema 时间: 2015-8-18 16:25:57
好恐怖。。。。。。。楼主没事吧。
作者: oplwy 时间: 2015-8-18 16:31:19
jackauckland 发表于 2015-8-18 14:57
10年的warranty那是master builder或kiwi,一般华人就给几个月,最多的听说过6个月的。很少有几年的!
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10年包的是建筑结构吧。这个不包。
作者: BABYCAT 时间: 2015-8-18 16:33:11
那血看得我腿軟。希望LZ現在好了。
一定要追究下去啊。不過先找ACC是沒錯的了。
我也聽過人家從國內買個玻璃飯枱,結果放碗面上去,就整塊碎了。
我醉了
作者: 匿名 时间: 2015-8-18 16:38:08
本帖最后由 匿名 于 2015-8-18 15:41 编辑
好恐怖,lz 新房子是10年质量保证,lz也不用找玻璃厂家,因为不是lz自己买的玻璃,属于房屋质量问题,告倒他,
作者: dino8ielts 时间: 2015-8-18 16:40:11
请问楼主是不是华人builder 是的话可以理解 都是批发市场的便宜货
作者: JR01 时间: 2015-8-18 16:41:48
我的车窗玻璃爆炸过,动静很大还以为被袭击了呢。
作者: ldl123 时间: 2015-8-18 16:43:29
求PM builder名字
作者: 巴依老爷 时间: 2015-8-18 16:44:31
真的够慎入的。。。。。。。。。。。。
作者: Eastpark 时间: 2015-8-18 16:45:44
这个钢化玻璃有一定的自爆概率,很不幸被你家赶上了。感觉很气愤,但很可能研究一下只能认倒霉,自己更换了。
很可能是楼上面那个大猫说的,因为安装在木结构上,因为木框移动,压力发生了变化,最后自爆了。
作者: Paper_Man 时间: 2015-8-18 16:51:10
好可怕啊,流了好多血,人没事吧?
作者: Paper_Man 时间: 2015-8-18 16:55:25
28楼的大猫说的有道理。
作者: Paper_Man 时间: 2015-8-18 16:56:53
楼主赶紧先把其他两个淋浴房玻璃边上的橡胶条拆除,留点空隙。
作者: yangki 时间: 2015-8-18 16:58:35
Fair Go Fair Go Fair Go. Fair Go
作者: 假惆怅 时间: 2015-8-18 16:59:15
这是什么原因造成的?太他妈可怕了啊。
作者: zzb1982 时间: 2015-8-18 17:06:37
yax 发表于 2015-8-18 14:59
我的出租房的浴室玻璃也是无外力自己粉碎了。好在当时房客不在家。自责不该贪便宜买华人的卫浴。 ...
大哥,身为华人有时候也不要老诋毁华人的东西,我看到这卫浴的马桶是洋人店买的,估计淋浴房也是洋人店买的。和华人的玻璃没关系,洋人和华人都是中国进的安全玻璃。问题是出在安装或者安装前就有裂痕造成。不要什么事都说华人的东西差,不是made in china就差。
作者: fxmt1988 时间: 2015-8-18 17:10:01
oplwy 发表于 2015-8-18 15:25
玻璃爆炸为什么。 不明白。
钢化玻璃内部的硫化镍膨胀
作者: fxmt1988 时间: 2015-8-18 17:14:21
zzb1982 发表于 2015-8-18 16:06
大哥,身为华人有时候也不要老诋毁华人的东西,我看到这卫浴的马桶是洋人店买的,估计淋浴房也是洋人店买 ...
钢化玻璃本身就有千分之四的自爆率,只是概率问题和时间问题
作者: 匿名 时间: 2015-8-18 17:19:40
很同情楼主的遭遇. 淋浴房在钢化玻璃都合格的情况下, 都有万分之三到五的自爆率. 现在看最合理的方法是给builder要这个淋浴房的invoice,找零售商商讨赔偿。有可能要回一些物质赔偿。
作者: mimisa 时间: 2015-8-18 17:25:00
很恐怖。LZ还是想想办法处理你家还有的几个等待爆炸的玻璃,相信凭你几十年的项目管理经验一定能够处理好。这里维权比国内容易,对一点一定要有信心。。。
作者: 那年夏天 时间: 2015-8-18 17:34:05
zzb1982 发表于 2015-8-18 16:06
大哥,身为华人有时候也不要老诋毁华人的东西,我看到这卫浴的马桶是洋人店买的,估计淋浴房也是洋人店买 ...
这位同胞说的对,这边大部分的玻璃都是中国过来的,谁卖的问题而已,这感觉是安装问题,应该找回原来owner,问出当时装shower box 的公司,和他们交涉,builder 不管这个的,告也要找对人,就我的经验,当时给我装shower box 和楼梯玻璃是一家,说这种玻璃就是怕瞬间的集中点的力,比如你拿个锋利的东西戳一下就有可能破,反而是整个人撞上去不会破,装玻璃的也可能会从这方面下手说你自己造成的,但是最好还是找其他安玻璃的公司看看你家另外两个,是不是安装问题,如果是安装问题,告当初那个shower box 公司,有证据,那就没商量了,还有很多房屋保险包括玻璃的,你可以索赔,如果是为了一口气,那就追到底。
作者: honeybabesc 时间: 2015-8-18 17:35:31
你有contents insurance 嗎?? 可以找保險公司
作者: 旋木悠转 时间: 2015-8-18 17:35:32
太吓人了吧。。。祝lz老公早日康复
作者: 119900 时间: 2015-8-18 17:37:09
我C......
啥原因会炸啊?
作者: MacLee 时间: 2015-8-18 17:41:26
钢化玻璃有自爆率,LZ只能自认倒霉碰上了
作者: xiebingxing 时间: 2015-8-18 18:02:28
Robbi 发表于 2015-8-18 14:50
买的时候有builders report?
请了洋人做的,应该也是做的比较仔细的,但是就是没提淋浴房的问题。
作者: abc755 时间: 2015-8-18 18:10:53
麻烦pm下大体的地址和开发商的名字,这太可怕了
作者: qlc178901 时间: 2015-8-18 18:31:38
照片中合页处可能有蹊跷,合页和玻璃之间应该有塑料,软垫间隔的吧,看一下门铰孔,通孔处,螺丝有没和玻璃有些微接触。
这种钢化玻璃最怕锐器接触一个点,必碎。在国内时验货时砸碎过无数钢化玻璃。。。。罪过,罪过
作者: joyjoyjoy 时间: 2015-8-18 18:36:19
LZ曝光他们啊。。。。。。。。。。。靠,,,,,成这样。。。。你找相关部门先去问问。。。。。再问律师。。。
作者: joyjoyjoy 时间: 2015-8-18 18:37:05
如果不知道从何下手,可以先找康嫂,然后问出部门。。。。。英文不好有中文翻译
作者: 皮皮蛋蛋 时间: 2015-8-18 18:41:48
太吓人了啊,楼主打康嫂电话咨询咨询吧,把另外那两个快检查检查。。。真是吓人。。。
作者: 天龙小花 时间: 2015-8-18 18:50:27
我靠这个太吓人了,没伤到孩子是不幸中的万幸(我自己也有孩子所以万事以孩子为先),我看过国内很多新闻也报道淋雨房无故爆炸的报道,但都没给过什么说法,不知道这种事情要怎么赔偿,找厂家赔偿呢?
作者: 天使 时间: 2015-8-18 18:50:56
哇赛,太吓人了吧,这个肯定要找builder,要是伤到孩子还得了?房子在哪里?
作者: ziyfan 时间: 2015-8-18 18:54:11
看来我很幸运了。。。房子用的是burnnings mitre
10 的东西。。。哈哈。虽然也不是好动系。
作者: rainme 时间: 2015-8-18 18:56:46
请PM一下builder的名字,买房子时离他们远点
作者: xytdt55 时间: 2015-8-18 18:57:15
我觉得你应该找媒体曝光~~
作者: 阿海 时间: 2015-8-18 19:00:21
我觉得是运气不好吧,钢化玻璃真的是存在问题的,虽然几率很小很小,我一个顾问公司的office也是一块大玻璃突然就爆炸了。。。
作者: Jackpot 时间: 2015-8-18 19:10:15
你房子的地址,还有builder的名字,买房子时离他们远点
作者: 背背静 时间: 2015-8-18 19:11:10
同求PM bulider,太危险了,还好人没事
作者: Esipan 时间: 2015-8-18 19:11:52
虽然很同情楼主。。但是事实就是在新西兰维权。。耗钱耗时耗力。。还不一定有好结果。。祝楼主早日康复
作者: ffff 时间: 2015-8-18 19:19:26
祝早日康复,这个是不是应该找安装的人啊
作者: absomomo 时间: 2015-8-18 19:38:17
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作者: MB005 时间: 2015-8-18 19:38:54
所有的钢化玻璃都会有自暴率的,好像是3/1000,楼主真是不幸啊~~大家要小心4个角
作者: Danger_Decibels 时间: 2015-8-18 19:42:25
根据我的经验:
-浴室的shower box保修一般都是一年,楼主第一句话就表明保修应该已经过了。
-钢化玻璃爆炸几率我不说了,但是在亲洗澡的时候“爆炸”,应该不会这么巧的事情。
-亲确定不是因为physical force导致的么?
作者: seashell0314 时间: 2015-8-18 19:44:06
我觉得应该捅到媒体上去,让人家报道,你就能维权了。。。这个事情太可怕了。。。
作者: dongyulbibo 时间: 2015-8-18 19:53:50
我记得commercial law 里有个典型的case 是“ take care of your neighbour " 里面说的是一个人喝啤酒喝到一直蜗牛 然后他把这个生产啤酒的厂商给告了 我觉得你可以告这个卫浴的生产厂家 而不是builder。 如果这个卫浴是进口过来的 把质量检测员给告了就行
作者: Clark1129 时间: 2015-8-18 20:39:22
我R,这场面头一次见
不过LZ还是要冷静,房屋事故追责,还真不能确定是不是BUILDER的责任呢
作者: yax 时间: 2015-8-18 20:39:54
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zzb1982 发表于 2015-8-18 16:06
大哥,身为华人有时候也不要老诋毁华人的东西,我看到这卫浴的马桶是洋人店买的,估计淋浴房也是洋人店买 ...
你说的对,不是都差,但这个新西兰市场上卖的中国卫浴产品没有一个是中国的大品牌,赶上一个差的就会险些要人命不是吗?中国大了去了,大小品牌也多了去了,你能说所有的品牌质量都杠杠的??我就奇怪了我买到了质量差的中国制造也不能说了是吗?这就叫诋毁了!!!!还老诋毁!!!
如果我是花了1500刀买的这里的品牌卫浴,找安装卫浴的专人安装,一旦出了这样的问题我是可以投诉的。可我是花了500刀买的,安装也是他们店来安的,玻璃碎了店家说是偶然现象,因为货和安装都是他家,他没办法推脱责任,所以他说大不了你再买一个我们给你算便宜点!!!!没有其他说法了!!!这是人家商家的回答。
我也不是专业人士,只是一个单纯的消费者,就一个消费者而言,消费任何一个物品重要的是安全性和质量不是吗?
作者: beck@ 时间: 2015-8-18 20:54:06
太恐怖了~~~~~···
作者: xiebingxing 时间: 2015-8-18 20:56:30
那年夏天 发表于 2015-8-18 16:34
这位同胞说的对,这边大部分的玻璃都是中国过来的,谁卖的问题而已,这感觉是安装问题,应该找回原来owne ...
我是先找builder要当初的安装公司,结果换来他的一阵叫嚣,问我为何不顾他那么累那么晚才吃饭而要来解决我shower的问题?我非常不明白他的逻辑,难道我女儿40度高烧,我老公出这种事我要带着女儿一起送他去急诊,一直到凌晨四点半才回家。我累还是他累?一开始一句道歉都没有一直推卸责任说我们自己撞的。刚刚他跟我说这个玻璃厂家已经关闭找不到了,好了,慢慢维权路啊!
作者: vickiliu1974 时间: 2015-8-18 21:00:10
楼上一大帮说找builder的意义何在,除非builder 自己本身就是这个房子的开发商或人。这里的builder其实就是木匠,只会订钉子的 他只是负责把房子外框架做好,然后挂门,定多还订个外墙板,有的附带做个地板。然后别的工该干谁是谁。电,网线,煤气,淋浴房,厕所等房子的附属设备builder根本没资格做,也不可能做。是不是电出问题也找builder,厕所有问题也找builder.那建房子要电工和水工干毛。找也是找做或提供淋浴房的。
作者: 夜行记 时间: 2015-8-18 21:00:44
这样的事情真的很少见,但是要追溯施工方的责任不如去找淋浴房经营者,不过话说回来,如果不是NZ 荡涤生产公司的产品,最后很可能形成踢皮球。
看了一下图片,应该是温差过大 可能某一点受力不同造成的突发事件。
LZ去找builder 其实没用,除非你可以证明这个淋浴房是当初builder自己从国内采购的,否则你找他没用
说到master builder. Warranty,很多人存在认识上的误区,那个是结构保险来的,跟里面用的东西没啥关系 而且即便是MBW 也分成很多种 大家用的都是最简单的一种而已.
不要有事就说洋人如何如何,好的builder做出来的也不少,有的中国人的建筑标准只比洋人高!
作者: kiwifishman 时间: 2015-8-18 21:03:25
xiebingxing 发表于 2015-8-18 19:56
我是先找builder要当初的安装公司,结果换来他的一阵叫嚣,问我为何不顾他那么累那么晚才吃饭而要来解决 ...
找出当时按照合同上安装卫浴的公司 然后去tribunal 告去 把医院报告 照片 现场留着 放心吧 永远是customer 利益为上
作者: xiebingxing 时间: 2015-8-18 21:06:51
chaor 发表于 2015-8-18 14:57
我觉得是通风口被堵住了,然后通风太差,热气太多,进入后膨胀,像一个气球,然后炸了…… ...
淋浴房不是到顶的,上面都是空的
作者: xiebingxing 时间: 2015-8-18 21:11:57
jap7jap7 发表于 2015-8-18 14:53
这图片有点血腥啊 赶紧去吃包辣条 压压惊先。坐等LZ维权更新。
会更新,也方便大家以后知道如何维权
作者: ha775775 时间: 2015-8-18 21:14:05
新房很危险呀
作者: mydear 时间: 2015-8-18 21:14:16
vickiliu1974 发表于 2015-8-18 20:00
楼上一大帮说找builder的意义何在,除非builder 自己本身就是这个房子的开发商或人。这里的builder其实就是 ...
同意, 是不是沐浴玻璃原来有小裂纹什么的, 你们没注意到啊
作者: vickiliu1974 时间: 2015-8-18 21:22:37
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mydear 发表于 2015-8-18 20:14
同意, 是不是沐浴玻璃原来有小裂纹什么的, 你们没注意到啊
这很复杂,有可能是玻璃本身的问题,也有可能是安装的问题,缝隙留的不够。新建木质房框架通常会缓慢的变形,有可能墙体变化造成对玻璃的挤压。现在LZ要维权其实就是要咬住开发房子的人,让他找出供货或安装方。找不出就要他负责,当然希望了LZ说的bulider就是开发商,要不然找他基本上是浪费时间
作者: k123456 时间: 2015-8-18 21:24:15
強化玻璃、淬火玻璃或鋼化玻璃是由退火玻璃經過熱處理而製成。一般強化玻璃比退火玻璃的強度高4至6倍。原因是玻璃表面的輕微裂痕都會被應力所緊壓,而內層可能出現裂痕的可能性亦較低。 但是強化玻璃亦有缺點。由於玻璃內的應力需要平衡,所以如果強化玻璃上出現任何損壞或裂痕,整塊玻璃就會碎成指甲大小,但同時因為會碎成沒有尖角的小碎片,相對也比較安全。 所以对玻璃的切割及打磨处理需在強化工序前進行。而且與退火玻璃相比,強化玻璃的硬度較低,較容易被刮花。
按理说不会伤人的,但是LZ老公却被割伤了。很奇怪. 玻璃碎了,房屋保险应该是管的。找保险公司吧。如果其他浴室害怕发生同样的事故,就贴个膜吧。贴膜也可以防止伤人。
作者: xiebingxing 时间: 2015-8-18 21:32:32
各位大神,能有提供官方检测机构的吗?现在是不知道找谁检测才最权威
作者: 谁说谁多余 时间: 2015-8-18 21:32:44
我嚓 我也碰到过 原来在国内的时候浴室也是玻璃门 拉开门的时候 门脱轨了 我就想抬一下吧门抬回原位 就在那一瞬间 玻璃门直接爆了 粉碎 幸好那时候还是穿着衣服的 受伤不严重。
作者: OT鱼 时间: 2015-8-18 21:33:42
有的人说这是国内的玻璃,其实我觉得这肯定是新西兰的玻璃,在玻璃领域,新西兰的工艺比国内差太多,不信可以去看个搞笑的视频,是个新西兰人2009年在新西兰撞了十几个玻璃后,跑到中国挑战,最后被中国牛逼的玻璃质量给坑了。。。https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bo0WNS2M38 自己看视频把。。。
作者: 久久是一只咩 时间: 2015-8-18 21:49:35
好!可!怕!家里也差不多是这样的啊顿时觉得害怕了!!!
作者: love_3_month 时间: 2015-8-18 21:54:27
如果买旧房,发生这样的事,根本不知道谁是开发商谁供货安装,那只能申请保险,没有其他的了。
现在你是两年前买的新房,所以还能找到开发商,所以还能有可能索赔到什么。这要看对方是否负责是否注重商誉了,很多公司会很负责的帮你解决,很多公司过了几个月就不管了。没有所谓终身质量保证这一说。
既然两年都没事,事实上开发商确实也过了保修期了。很可能真的是意外。希望能找到供货房,好好解决。。。另外,既然保险能赔,人没事,也就这样了。你找到供应商,或者人家承认,或者法院判决,也就最多给你陪一个新的,不大可能给你补偿的。这和开车被别的司机撞是一样的,最多赔你车子的修理费,你说你以后开车有心理阴影,没人会补偿的。
作者: HoMeWolf 时间: 2015-8-18 21:54:31
我估计是不是热涨的原因导致玻璃炸裂。。。。 小心其他浴室的玻璃吧
作者: 呼啸寒风 时间: 2015-8-18 22:09:27
天朝都没这么2b的事。。。。
作者: dean1006 时间: 2015-8-18 22:15:14
求pm builder的名字,你房子大概位置,谢谢
作者: E1108 时间: 2015-8-18 22:16:36
钢化玻璃自爆几率很小,比彩票高一点
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