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作者: 爺满臉緈諨 时间: 2014-10-23 10:35:21 标题: 今儿早晨收到了邻居的邮件，有关我家后院一排大树的问题！

本帖最后由爺满臉緈諨于 2014-10-23 09:41 编辑

邮件如下：
Can I get your help to get the rear line of trees trimmed or removed.
My property at 106 Ti Rakau Drive joins your property at the rear.

Reasons are;
Too tall, overhanging onto my side, especially the garage, causing garage and guttering to rust.
The AC main sewer line runs underneath, causing blockages. These blockages has cost me money in sewer blockages, damage to carpet, insurance claims. The costs in insurance increases, excess are not inconsiderable.
Now I would want action.

Please advise as to what needs to be done.

是个阿三，貌似来者不善已经做了research。
像这种情况我该怎么办？！房子买来两年，各种花钱...租金基本都花掉了

作者: purpleapple 时间: 2014-10-23 10:38:41

一排大树？貌似自己不能剪的话，得上千。。

作者: NewLynnHse 时间: 2014-10-23 10:39:46

LZ的房子是65号？

作者: 爺满臉緈諨 时间: 2014-10-23 10:40:37

NewLynnHse 发表于 2014-10-23 09:39
LZ的房子是65号？

对，难道是邻居？

作者: NewLynnHse 时间: 2014-10-23 10:41:15

爺满臉緈諨发表于 2014-10-23 09:40
对，难道是邻居？

哈哈，不是啦，看地图的

作者: 爺满臉緈諨 时间: 2014-10-23 10:41:34

NewLynnHse 发表于 2014-10-23 09:41
哈哈，不是啦，看地图的

这个让我着实郁闷了

作者: purpleapple 时间: 2014-10-23 10:43:09

NewLynnHse 发表于 2014-10-23 09:41
哈哈，不是啦，看地图的

房屋信息系统查一下，楼主的名字都知道了

作者: NewLynnHse 时间: 2014-10-23 10:45:01

那一排大树，悲剧啊，说句实话，是我也会不爽。

作者: xpd2000 时间: 2014-10-23 10:45:13

剪吧

不过过几年房价大涨都回来了

作者: 爺满臉緈諨 时间: 2014-10-23 10:45:50

purpleapple 发表于 2014-10-23 09:43
房屋信息系统查一下，楼主的名字都知道了

这么叼？都是中介的朋友吗？

作者: 爺满臉緈諨 时间: 2014-10-23 10:46:42

NewLynnHse 发表于 2014-10-23 09:45
那一排大树，悲剧啊，说句实话，是我也会不爽。

明白，可这树买过来就这样，而且fence很低，如果砍光了
我家邻居天天可以看电影了，看我房子里的live show

作者: 爺满臉緈諨 时间: 2014-10-23 10:47:24

xpd2000 发表于 2014-10-23 09:45
剪吧

不过过几年房价大涨都回来了

看看大家还有没有什么更好的方法？

作者: 阿海 时间: 2014-10-23 10:53:49

叫他出钱把树砍了。如果需要建新fence，你出一部分钱呗。

反正是投资房，不需要管隐私管邻居看不看你租客做什么啊。

作者: 小猫 时间: 2014-10-23 10:54:59

除了太高造成对方车库生锈, 好象对方也说你的树根导致堵塞. 估计不是单单修剪就能解决问题.

将心比心,要你是他,你是否也会据理力争呢?

作者: 爺满臉緈諨 时间: 2014-10-23 11:02:57

小猫发表于 2014-10-23 09:54
除了太高造成对方车库生锈, 好象对方也说你的树根导致堵塞. 估计不是单单修剪就能解决问题.

将心比心,要 ...

我跟阿三比心，必定是要拿刀子插自己的心

作者: Paper_Man 时间: 2014-10-23 11:05:43

在律师版看了完整版的，既然之前的屋主不鸟他你鸟他做啥。

作者: truett 时间: 2014-10-23 11:17:37

你可以很合善的答应,但一直不弄,他一问,就很痛心的告他,.一开始就拖在找,再找,就说找到等价钱, 再来就说.给不起.囊中羞涩. 拖到崩溃,真是如他说的那么有问题就急的让他自己弄了.

作者: 爺满臉緈諨 时间: 2014-10-23 11:32:24

Paper_Man 发表于 2014-10-23 10:05
在律师版看了完整版的，既然之前的屋主不鸟他你鸟他做啥。

之前那个房东就是我..我回国了所以就没有鸟他

作者: 爺满臉緈諨 时间: 2014-10-23 11:33:07

truett 发表于 2014-10-23 10:17
你可以很合善的答应,但一直不弄,他一问,就很痛心的告他,.一开始就拖在找,再找,就说找到等价钱, 再来就说.给 ...

这个方法听说过，如果他去民事仲裁起诉我呢！

作者: bubugu 时间: 2014-10-23 11:35:59

這是 City Council 回覆邻居的树伸到fence 外的树枝問題

If neighbour's trees overhang a boundary, appear dangerous, or block sunlight, or if their roots cause problems with drains, the matter is to be sorted out between the neighbours. Branches or roots crossing a boundary can generally be removed, provided that the work does not kill the tree or require a resource consent. The law indicates that these branches should be returned to the owner of the tree. However, if a decision is reached between the neighbours to either remove or prune a tree, then a resource consent may be required from Council.

According to the Property Law Amendment Act 1975 property owners are responsible for any nuisance or damage their trees cause to neighbours, even if the trees were planted before they bought the property. Council does not get involved in neighbourhood disputes about trees. If the matter cannot be resolved amicably, legal advice may be required. A Citizens Advice Bureau can give further advice on this 0800 367 222.

For emergency situations requiring the urgent removal of a private tree (ie where it is about to fall on a house, has just fallen or split or may cause
injury) it may be possible to have it removed by a professional arborist without prior consent if the customer has written advice from a professional arborist that the tree requires urgent removal and has documented evidence to back up this written advice (such as photographs of the situation showing the urgency and associated state of the tree). Onus of proof will lie with the arborist or tree owner to substantiate the tree was immediately hazardous and that there was no time to apply for a consent for removal. Arborists can be found in the Yellow Pages under 'Tree Services' and many offer after hours service.

If the neighbour is not available to sort the situation out themselves, you should take the advice of a professional arborist (which can be found in the Yellow Pages under 'Tree Services') who will be able to advise whether the tree poses a threat.

I hope this information of help for you.

Please don't hesitate to contact us again, if we can be of any further assistance.

Kind regards
Sheryll Giles
Customer Services Representative

作者: NewLynnHse 时间: 2014-10-23 11:41:56

bubugu 发表于 2014-10-23 10:35
這是 City Council 回覆邻居的树伸到fence 外的树枝問題

If neighbour's trees overhang a boundary, ap ...

看来你是一直在潜水

作者: kingscat 时间: 2014-10-23 11:43:32

我之前遇到，也是fence 树太高挡住他阳光，问了council 真计较的话是我责任，乖乖砍了

作者: oplwy 时间: 2014-10-23 11:43:55

我邻居没有这些要求。但是我都把树锯矮下来了。自己手锯的省钱！

作者: bubugu 时间: 2014-10-23 11:43:57

Your Legal Rights: Trees, Fences and Your Neighbours

Disputes over trees and fences are a common cause of bad feeling between neighbours- trees that block your sun, roots that choke your drains, fences that your neighbours want built or replaced- often at considerable expense. Your differences can usually be settles with a combination of tact and compromise, but if you are forced into a standoff, legal action may be your only way out. That could cost you anywhere from hundreds to thousands of dollars and will most likely destroy neighbourly goodwill.

TREES
The Property Law Amendment Act 1975 says property owners are responsible for any nuisance or damage their trees cause to neighbours, even if the trees were planted before they brought the property. But decide first whether the nuisance is worth the risk of souring relationships with your neighbour. You need to decide too whether that problem outweighs the benefits the trees give you both- such as beauty, privacy, shelter, shade. Try to work out a solution tactfully. Give neighbours time to think about what you are suggesting. They may be quite happy to help you with any work caused by their trees if it means saving them. It’s better to talk over the fence than in a court. If you reach an impasse, you may need to take legal action. If you do, tell your neighbour- how would you feel if you received a court order in the name of your neighbour without warning? Your neighbour may cooperate if there is a legal obligation to do so. If you go ahead with legal action, ask your lawyer to organise a court order. The District Court will then send a notice to your neighbour ordering action to be taken within a set time - or appear in court.

ROOTS

A willow tree's roots on a neighbour's property continually block your drains. Twice in 18 months you have to get a plumber to clear them. He warns you that this will be a regular exercise - and expense - unless the cause of the problem is removed. Even worse, it could eventually cost you new drains. You approach your neighbour about having the tree removed. He indignantly points out that the tree was well established on his property long before you brought the one next door, and he has no intention of removing his tree for you or your drains. Have you any comeback?

DEFINITELY! The law does not accept that a tree planted 30 years ago cannot be "a nuisance" today. If all the facts in this situation were presented in court, the neighbour would probably be ordered to remove the tree.

Some roots of your neighbour's macrocarpa tree start pushing up your carefully manicured lawn. You ask your neighbour to do something about it but she says there is nothing she can do. You then ask to have the tree removed. She is not prepared to do that. You decide to solve the problem by poisoning the roots on your side of the fence. Unfortunately the posion kills the tree and your neighbour threatens to take you to court for damaging her property. Can she do this?

YES. You should have dug up and cut off the roots, or taken court action, rather than use the poison that would lead to the death of the tree. You are allowed to remove any part of a neighbour's property that intrudes into yours. But your right to take action stops at the boundary line between your property and your neighbour's. Using the poison that would have an effect beyond your side of the boundary is illegal.

LEAVES

A neighbour's oak tree continually drops leaves in the guttering of your house, forcing you to climb a ladder every few weeks to get the leaves out. Do you have to suffer this inconvenience?

If the branches causing the problem are growing over your side of the fence, you are allowed to prune them back to the fence. If not, you can ask your neighbour to cut back the trees or remove them. If the neighbour disagrees, you could get a court order to solve the problem.

BRANCHES

You buy a section. There is a large chestnut tree growing on the next-door property, with branches growing over onto your side of the boundary fence. The law allows you to cutt off branches on your side, but they are long and thick making it a major operation. Is your neighbour obliged to do the work or pay for it to be done?

NO. Provided the branches are causing no real nuisance, they are your responsibility if they are growing on your side of the fence.

You remove large a branch from a neighbour's plum tree that is growing over your property. This is quite legal, but unfortunately the result of this "amputation" is that your neighbour's tree dies. Can your neighbour demand compensation?

NO. You were within your rights when you cut off the branch on your side of the boundary. It could be argued that any resulting damage to the tree was the neighbour's fault because he did not prune the branch when it was young and the life of the tree was less likely to be affected.

SUNLIGHT

Trees on a neighbour's property are blocking sunlight from your house and garden. Is this a good enough reason to insist they be cut back?

YES. If neighbourly sweet reason fails, then you can take legal action. You will have to convince a court that the trees are having an adverse effect on your property and your enjoyment of it. If the court agrees, the neighbour will have to cut those trees back.

VIEWS

When you bought your home 10 years ago you had a great view from your lounge window. But now a line of trees has grown high enough to block your view completely. the trees are not on your immdeiate neighbour's property but on a property further down the street. Can you do anything about having them cut back?

You would have to approach your local city or borough council with your complaint. If the council has a bylaw or a provisioning it's district scheme, it may accept your arguement and order the trees to be cut back. If not you could take the case to court, but this would be costly and you may not win.

LEAVES A large conifer growing on the other side of your back fence is obviously dying. You are concerned that at any time the tree, or part of it, could fall on your house. You ask your neighbour to do something about it. He tells you to mind your own business, as the tree is doing no harm and in his opinion is unlikely to fall down on you or your house. But you are not convinced. Can you have the tree chopped down? Ask your lawyer to apply for a court order to have the tree removed. If the court agrees that the tree is likely to damage your house, the neighbour will have no choice but to cut it down

作者: bubugu 时间: 2014-10-23 11:48:47

NewLynnHse 发表于 2014-10-23 10:41
看来你是一直在潜水

Lama tak jumpa!

作者: truett 时间: 2014-10-23 11:50:18

爺满臉緈諨发表于 2014-10-23 10:33
这个方法听说过，如果他去民事仲裁起诉我呢！

吃饱了撑的吧他,年初我后院有棵树,长到后院家里,结果那家人没来找我,他的邻居到来找我,说影响他割草,我说我同意他去砍,砍完垃圾丢回我院里.他说让我砍,我说那我看看有没合适的.开始1个月很积极来找我,我也很积极回应. 过了2个月,再不来找我,自己找人砍了,垃圾丢我院里,然后我自己清理掉了..

他能告什么,而且最最最什么无非你最后找人砍

作者: NewLynnHse 时间: 2014-10-23 11:53:36

bubugu 发表于 2014-10-23 10:48
Lama tak jumpa!

OMG！！你。。。竟然会说。。。

作者: 逗逗 时间: 2014-10-23 11:59:18

看了那些出主意不理邻居或者建议拖下去的回复，我真觉得摊上你们这些邻居算是倒了霉了，自己家的树影响到了邻居难道自己就不管了吗？就为了省点钱？会不会太自私了点啊。

作者: nasi_chilli 时间: 2014-10-23 12:12:48

NewLynnHse 发表于 2014-10-23 10:53
OMG！！你。。。竟然会说。。。

banyak orang penyelaman di forum ini haha

作者: songinator 时间: 2014-10-23 12:21:34

nasi_chilli 发表于 2014-10-23 11:12
banyak orang penyelaman di forum ini haha

你在论坛潜水呵呵

作者: NewLynnHse 时间: 2014-10-23 13:06:20

nasi_chilli 发表于 2014-10-23 11:12
banyak orang penyelaman di forum ini haha

作者: kelly6 时间: 2014-10-23 13:25:39

人家有啥错啊要我第一次书面你没回复直接就上tribunal了为什么连自扫门前雪都做不到。

作者: clam 时间: 2014-10-23 13:32:41

I had the same problem with my indian neighbors

我問了council, 我的case 的話, 他們要付錢的. 我覺得你也可以去問問council
最後那個阿三太煩了, 我叫直接聯絡我的律師

結果他放棄了

作者: 高兴 时间: 2014-10-23 17:49:31

本帖最后由高兴于 2014-10-23 20:14 编辑

一般这种你家的树长到邻居家了的，邻居有权利砍掉，垃圾放你院子。但他不能强迫你砍掉。道理是这样，但我觉得我们华人有空还是打理下花园吧，树木修枝，割草喷药都要定期的。这是一个家的脸面，也显示了这个家的生活状况。投资房的话一般是房客有义务打理，房东有权利要求（要看具体合同）。但是华人租房很少有打理花园的，房东要在租房前和房客说明彼此的权利义务。我见过华人房客搬家时被kiwi房东要求花上千元修树的。如果合同是房东负责，房客有权利要求房东保持花园整洁

作者: 小猫 时间: 2014-10-23 20:02:54

爺满臉緈諨发表于 2014-10-23 10:02
我跟阿三比心，必定是要拿刀子插自己的心

我是没种族歧视,只是就事论事. 只能说,幸好我不是他....

作者: walker123 时间: 2014-10-23 21:35:52

爺满臉緈諨发表于 2014-10-23 09:46
明白，可这树买过来就这样，而且fence很低，如果砍光了
我家邻居天天可以看电影了，看我房子里的live sh ...

去掉树冠，不要全砍。

作者: zillion 时间: 2015-8-1 18:24:46

本帖最后由 zillion 于 2015-8-1 19:16 编辑

请大家做个有责任有质数的人。
你自己家的树影响到邻居，这是你的责任把它给清理了。
邻居友善也定时修剪因为你的overgrown树，但也不要那么无赖逞邻居不在家就去人家家把树给砍了，还扔在邻居那儿。

作者: GreatCursER 时间: 2015-8-1 19:02:16

多少清理一部分吧

作者: zillion 时间: 2015-8-1 20:08:17

Thx for your concern.
Maybe I didn't make it clear enough just now.
Before such unpleasant incident happened, the affected neighbor had done his/her part to cut the overgrow branches on a regular basis already.

作者: 4143920 时间: 2015-8-2 13:49:13

留着回头跟我邻居说让他砍树阳光被挡死了

作者: zillion 时间: 2015-8-3 00:00:46

本帖最后由 zillion 于 2015-8-4 11:30 编辑

刚刚看了一些有关邻居树的问题。
所以被影响的一方可以把树归还给树的主人？
毕竟影响的一方都有定时的修剪生过来的树。
现在还得要影响的一方收拾不属于自己的树干树枝，真的很不是滋味。就像人家把他家的垃圾丟别人家要人家收拾一样。真无赖!
有质数的邻居真的很重要。不然只有被欺的份。华人原来也欺负华人。对洋人却没敢行动。

作者: 爺满臉緈諨 时间: 2015-8-3 23:11:40

zillion 发表于 2015-8-2 23:00
刚刚看了一些有关邻居树的问题。
所以被影响的一方可以把树归还给树的主人？
毕竟影响的一方都有定时的修剪 ...

问题已经解决了。我家的树其实遮挡的就是他的车库。
树我没有修理，他claim说树根缠绕了下水，我打电话给water care，可是部门说如果真的是树根堵了水管，那就是water care来修。跟我们都没有关系。至于树的事情，邻居完全无理取闹，说叶子飘落到他家了，让我以后控制叶子不让飞到他家房顶。

作者: 浪浊之烟 时间: 2015-8-4 00:00:10

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作者: zillion 时间: 2015-8-4 00:57:56

爺满臉緈諨发表于 2015-8-3 22:11
问题已经解决了。我家的树其实遮挡的就是他的车库。
树我没有修理，他claim说树根缠绕了下水，我打电话 ...

恭喜你啊。
他们的那颗树导致大家的木板篱笆都松脱了。
那样质量的邻居应该也不会理维修了。

作者: sean1213 时间: 2015-8-4 01:40:25

bubugu 发表于 2014-10-23 10:35
這是 City Council 回覆邻居的树伸到fence 外的树枝問題

If neighbour's trees overhang a boundary, appe ...

那政府保留地里的树有时会遮挡我家阳光，而且还掉树叶把我家gutter堵住那是不是直接找政府就好了？

作者: mimisa 时间: 2015-8-4 02:04:39

sean1213 发表于 2015-8-4 00:40
那政府保留地里的树有时会遮挡我家阳光，而且还掉树叶把我家gutter堵住那是不是直接找政府就好了？ ...

有理。。。。。。。。。。

作者: 爺满臉緈諨 时间: 2015-8-4 11:44:15

zillion 发表于 2015-8-3 23:57
恭喜你啊。
他们的那颗树导致大家的木板篱笆都松脱了。
那样质量的邻居应该也不会理维修了。 ...

我跟邻居的围栏已经破了好几个口子，我去补起来了。
跟他说我想换围栏，结果丫跟我说对我没影响啊。
最近在研究fence law。如果邻居影响到了安全，是可以换
如果邻居不出钱可以跟他提出正式的notice，但就是麻烦，时间长
小仲裁法院会判邻居出一半的钱

作者: 爺满臉緈諨 时间: 2015-8-4 11:46:49

小猫发表于 2014-10-23 09:54
除了太高造成对方车库生锈, 好象对方也说你的树根导致堵塞. 估计不是单单修剪就能解决问题.

将心比心,要 ...

呵呵，事情已经水落石出。是他家里的下水管道被自己不知道什么东西堵住了。
反过来赖我家这排树说把小水管道堵了，要我出钱！
如果我不据理力争，是不是要被坑？！

作者: 爺满臉緈諨 时间: 2015-8-4 11:50:37

逗逗发表于 2014-10-23 10:59
看了那些出主意不理邻居或者建议拖下去的回复，我真觉得摊上你们这些邻居算是倒了霉了，自己家的树影响到了 ...

按照你的意思说，只要邻居找来，觉得有道理就要我买单喽？
换了你，你会吗？
呵呵，事情已经水落石出。是他家里的下水管道被自己不知道什么东西堵住了。
反过来赖我家这排树说把小水管道堵了，要我出钱！
如果我不据理力争，是不是要被坑？！

你说到底是谁自私？

作者: zillion 时间: 2015-8-4 12:31:12

爺满臉緈諨发表于 2015-8-4 10:44
我跟邻居的围栏已经破了好几个口子，我去补起来了。
跟他说我想换围栏，结果丫跟我说对我没影响啊。
最近 ...

你上了tribunal而成功了?

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