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作者: pangpangxin 时间: 2014-4-7 20:09:02 标题: 我需要给钱吗？急.....

刚买了房子，还没几天，与后花园连接的邻居就上门了，说要在我家跟他家相邻的地方建fence,我们要出一半钱。我没同意，原因是：
当时买房的时候，就是觉的后花园与邻居相连接处种了很多树，很漂亮，实际上已经构成一个树墙，只有大约1米的空间没有任何植物。我原本准备买两棵植物，把那1米的空间给挡上，但是邻居说，那些植物都属于他家的，所以他要把那些树砍了，建fence. 我在想，那些树墙是我看中这个房子其中一个因素，照他所说，这些树是他们家的，他有权利处理，难道还要我出钱帮他建fence吗？因为在我看来，根本没有必要建，植物已经把两家做了个自然分割。还有，他在这里住了25年了，为什么我们刚一搬来，他就要建。很难理解。从上次沟通以后，他没再来。

但是，今天回来以后，发现他把好多矮树砍了，美丽的树墙一半没有了。我在想，他是要建fence,然后让我帮他买一半的单吗？请大家帮忙出个意见，我应该怎么做？万分感谢。

作者: Robbi 时间: 2014-4-7 20:11:10

预见到以后的争执，果断找律师

作者: love_3_month 时间: 2014-4-7 20:30:40

好像是要的，具体council有规定的。

不过砍了干嘛呀。。。

作者: love_3_month 时间: 2014-4-7 20:31:45

他可能要卖，把花园弄弄好，fully fenced 比较好看

作者: houbaobao123 时间: 2014-4-7 20:31:52

我觉得你的邻居占理。树墙要是在人家的地方，人家有权处理。现在要在边界的地方砍了树建围栏，你要是不愿出钱，说不定人家就不建了，就这样没遮掩的跟你耗着，你不也难受吗？

作者: zhenyier 时间: 2014-4-7 20:38:13

确实是一人一半的。。。
我家和隔壁老头的木头栅栏掉了几块，
我妈找了木料打算修，
老头火速叫他儿子来，弄了一上午，弄好了。
邻居嘛，和气为贵，
不要弄僵， FENCE 你也可以用一半不是

作者: LYYX 时间: 2014-4-7 21:26:29

你只能出1/3（最好也要比较报价）---刚买房，没钱（他干嘛不同前屋主分摊？）。

作者: 祖传老军医 时间: 2014-4-7 21:38:42

和气的做法，一人一半，不讲面子的做法，两手一摊没钱

作者: 妞妞2006 时间: 2014-4-7 22:35:17

我在几年前遇到过和你一样的事，我们房子之间有一个旧的围墙，因为他哪边是盖的新房子，所以要换新围墙，过来同我和我的另一个邻居（也是中国人）讲要分摊费用，我们都同他讲我们认为现在的很好不用换，然后他直接换了也没有再来找我们。后来我们也问了懂法律的朋友，围墙确实应相邻的之间分摊费用，但是也是需要互相商量，还要有书面通知和双方认可的报价的。

作者: pangpangxin 时间: 2014-4-7 23:11:18

LYYX 发表于 2014-4-7 22:26
你只能出1/3（最好也要比较报价）---刚买房，没钱（他干嘛不同前屋主分摊？）。

这也是我觉得比较郁闷的地方。

作者: 雾中原野 时间: 2014-4-7 23:25:42

麻烦。。。。。。。。。。。

作者: frzheng 时间: 2014-4-8 00:09:18

有个好邻居生活才幸福！

作者: 夢泡泡 时间: 2014-4-8 00:32:31

妞妞2006 发表于 2014-4-7 23:35
我在几年前遇到过和你一样的事，我们房子之间有一个旧的围墙，因为他哪边是盖的新房子，所以要换新围墙，过 ...

同意。和气生财，本来就是2家的院墙出一半也很正常。不过要是你钱不方便可以和他商量一下嘛。

作者: 注册专用 时间: 2014-4-8 06:08:17

你完全可以不付，到公民咨询局拿本“邻里关系法”。上面解释很清楚

作者: joyce2003 时间: 2014-4-8 06:46:29

我家隔壁说要建，他们出全费的，看来找个好邻居真心重要

作者: purpleapple 时间: 2014-4-8 09:05:40

理论上是要分担一半的，邻居愿意自己出钱那是运气好，否则的话大家扯皮很麻烦。。。

作者: 蓝山小野猫商铺 时间: 2014-4-8 09:10:49

如果树是别人的。。。

别人要把树叶全拔光或者把树连根拔起这个也木有办法。。。

fence的话那么就好好商量吧。。。

对方真狠起来把树全弄倒了估计到时候就不是他想弄fence了是你迫不及待弄fence了。。。

作者: not419 时间: 2014-4-8 09:57:01

撸主不要担心，既然没再来找你商量，估计人家自己掏钱干了。

凡是往好处想，静等结果。希望来咨询大家建议的贴主，最后都要给网友一个结果贴。

作者: 微苦蓝山 时间: 2014-4-8 10:01:30

出一半fence钱，买个和气邻里关系，有什么不好

作者: 天才 时间: 2014-4-9 10:04:23

如果没有FENCE，建一个的话，你是必须要出钱的
如果已经有了个，维修你也要出钱的，如果是对方想换一个，你可以不付钱

作者: 吃菜的小猪 时间: 2014-4-9 15:46:47

法律里说的不是必须一人一半的，如果你不同意建，然后邻居非要建，那就他自己付钱，如果他建好以后再找你要钱，那你可以拒付，因为一开始你并未同意。

作者: love_3_month 时间: 2014-4-9 16:07:03

本帖最后由 love_3_month 于 2014-4-9 17:07 编辑

found it

Fencing Act 1978

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/a ... whole.html#DLM21853

Adjoining occupiers to share cost of fencing
Subject to the provisions of this Act, and to any order of the court made under this Act, the occupiers of adjoining lands not divided by an adequate fence are liable to contribute in equal proportions to work on a fence.

BUT

10.4

Except as provided in section 16, in the absence of agreement to the contrary the occupier of any adjoining land shall not be liable to contribute to the cost of any of the following:

(a) any part of the work on a fence that is done before notice relating to the work has been duly served on him:

(b) any part of the work that is done after the due service of such a notice and before the due service of a cross-notice on the occupier who gave the notice or the expiration of 21 days from the date of the service of the notice, whichever first happens:

(c) any part of the work that is done after the due service of such notice and cross-notice and while differences between the parties remain to be resolved either by agreement or by the court

section 16
Contribution where immediate work required
Subject to the provisions of section 17, if any fence is damaged or destroyed by sudden accident or other cause and requires immediate work, either of the adjoining occupiers may do that work without any notice, and may recover half the cost thereof from the other occupier.

section 17
Liability for damage caused by occupier
If any fence is damaged or destroyed in circumstances in which, apart from this Act, an occupier would be liable therefor, he shall be liable for the whole cost of making good the fence.

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So if your neighbour did not give you a formal notice before the work started, you don't need to pay.

作者: love_3_month 时间: 2014-4-9 16:18:18

this can also be helpful

http://www.cab.org.nz/vat/hle/np/Pages/FencesBoundaries.aspx

Can I put a fence up without talking to my neighbour?

If you think a fence needs to be built along the boundary line of your property, you should talk to your neighbour about where you think it should go, the sort of fence you want, and how much the fence will cost. Under the Fencing Act, you are required to give notice to your neighbour before you commence any works. If you fail to give the correct notice, your neighbour will not be required to contribute half of the costs of the boundary fence.

If the fence is well within your property then you do not have to get your neighbour’s permission so long as the fence complies with council regulations and you cover all costs. However, if you build your fence very close to the boundary, your neighbour can take the issue to the District Court and the Court could decide that you were trying to get around your responsibilities under the Act - you could be ordered to demolish your fence.

Do I need a building consent for a fence?

You do not usually need a building consent for your fence if it is less than two metres high. Consult your local council if you are unsure.

Who is responsible for the repair of boundary fences?

Generally the occupiers of the properties sharing a boundary, share the responsibility for work on a boundary fence (unless there are contracts or covenants with contrary agreements, or if the parties previously agreed to other conditions). An occupier of a property is the property's owner, or someone who is not the owner but has a tenancy of at least ten years.

If the fence is damaged or destroyed by one party, then that party has to pay for all of the repairs. If one party wants to repair the fence out of their own pocket, then they can.

What should I do if my neighbour and I have a disagreement over our
fence?

It’s always best to try to resolve it with your neighbour by discussing it with them. If you can’t reach an agreement, you can serve them with a Fencing Notice (see the next question). For further advice, call your local Citizens Advice Bureau on 0800 FOR CAB or 0800 367 222.

作者: NewLynnHse 时间: 2014-4-9 16:20:43

love_3_month 发表于 2014-4-9 17:18
this can also be helpful

http://www.cab.org.nz/vat/hle/np/Pages/FencesBoundaries.aspx

其实就是。。。谈。。。不行就告

作者: 人生如梦-颜 时间: 2014-4-9 16:31:32

我家隔壁印度人搬过来没多久就把他家树都砍光了，请人修起一米八的Fence。压根就没问我要钱啊

作者: dc. 时间: 2014-4-9 16:39:36

他没获得你的同意在先, 有得争取不付的.

作者: pangpangxin 时间: 2014-4-9 18:42:28

love_3_month 发表于 2014-4-9 17:07
found it

Fencing Act 1978

Much appreciated.

作者: rosy258 时间: 2014-4-10 11:53:06

学习了。。。上次俺们修fence都是自己掏钱，根本不知道还可以跟邻居商量

作者: Myminimuffin 时间: 2014-4-10 11:56:19

一般都是和邻居SHARE一半费用的吧。我家的就是。

作者: Ayen_Mtuv 时间: 2014-4-10 18:48:48

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