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标题: 有谁知道akl哪家牙医做种植牙比较好？ [打印本页]

作者: co-ngg 时间: 2013-9-10 21:42:16 标题: 有谁知道akl哪家牙医做种植牙比较好？

本帖最后由 co-ngg 于 2013-9-10 20:45 编辑

做个种植牙，不方便回国做，请问akl那家牙医做种植牙技术好，价格也合理？我去过几个牙医诊所，，牙医都好年轻啊，，感觉没什么经验啊，我这是门牙，，万一做坏了，，影响美观，还损失5。6千刀，有谁知道哪个牙医专门做种植压有经验的吗？

作者: JAMESCHEUNG 时间: 2013-9-10 23:42:49

我老公是在 Institute of Dental Implants & Periodontics做的，他也做的是门牙，05年做的，我觉得做得挺好的，医生也挺年轻的，但是我觉得经验挺丰富的。价格好像那时候全部下来三四千，每次复诊小二百。

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-11 03:14:16

JAMESCHEUNG 发表于 2013-9-10 22:42
我老公是在 Institute of Dental Implants & Periodontics做的，他也做的是门牙，05年做的，我觉得做得挺好 ...

look at my profile and it should show you some implant patient done by me.

I graduated at Otago, 2008 got UCLA/Gide 1 year Master Program certificate, We are the finalist of Auckland Chamber of Commerce 2013 Westpac Auckland Central Business Award - Excellence in Service Delivery / Excellence in Retail as well. please click this link http://www.aucklandchamber.co.nz/ or search under our facebook smile dental new zealand.

I am 41 years old but I still consider myself young

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-11 03:16:47

http://bbs.skykiwi.com/home.php? ... =album&id=18332

This patient is done by myself! Both surgical n restorative.

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-11 03:25:25

We use Nobel Biocare product, for upper anterior, we normally use nobel Active. We will need to do a Cone beam CT scan to assess your bone quality before we can draft a treatment plan. For anterior tooth, we will use zicronia abutment with a all ceramic crown. It will be either screw retained if angulation allows, otherwise Cement retained.

I hope it will give you some insight about your potential treatment.

作者: ﹍蕝蝂尐丫頭＂ 时间: 2013-9-11 04:28:55

什么是值牙？？换新的？？

作者: co-ngg 时间: 2013-9-11 10:52:48

本帖最后由 co-ngg 于 2013-9-12 10:17 编辑

jackylam 发表于 2013-9-11 02:25
We use Nobel Biocare product, for upper anterior, we normally use nobel Active. We will need to do ...

您好，，我先咨询您一下，我2005年在国内做的烤瓷牙（上面左侧门牙一个），，上个月这个烤瓷牙整个脱落了，我就去了个牙医诊所粘回去了，因为现在正在怀孕期，，不能做大的处理，，但过了一个月这个牙又掉下来了，请问是不是这个情况一定要做种植牙了？还有没有可能重新做个烤瓷牙，牙根还保留着，神经也都杀死了，要是能有其他什么办法可以做个其他别的什么的就好了种植牙太贵了啊

作者: co-ngg 时间: 2013-9-11 10:53:51

﹍蕝蝂尐丫頭＂发表于 2013-9-11 03:28
什么是值牙？？换新的？？

就是牙坏了，要把螺丝固定在牙床上，然后上面再套个烤瓷套，，这是没办法的办法啊，贵啊，，但做完应该可以跟自己以前的牙一样吃东西了

作者: cappuccino06 时间: 2013-9-11 10:56:39

问下jacky，种植牙费用大概多少？我是后面的一颗大牙拔掉了。请短信我一下，谢谢

作者: 1313xiaohua 时间: 2013-9-11 11:22:04

本帖最后由 1313xiaohua 于 2013-9-11 10:22 编辑

你们要先搞清楚植牙，跟做一般的烤瓷牙套，是不一样的。
植牙的功夫多很多。要做手术做个牙基在骨头里，然后再套个烤瓷牙上去的。而且时间要很长，起码半年。我本来想做，但是因为没时间。

作者: co-ngg 时间: 2013-9-11 13:34:25

cappuccino06 发表于 2013-9-11 09:56
问下jacky，种植牙费用大概多少？我是后面的一颗大牙拔掉了。请短信我一下，谢谢

我今天去粘牙了，，，好像 jacky他们家诊所我这样的一个门牙是6千刀，，，不知道一次性付款有没有优惠，具体要找他谈了，，，哎，，，钱啊，真是好东西，需要的时候就觉得特珍贵啊

作者: ﹍蕝蝂尐丫頭＂ 时间: 2013-9-11 16:02:43

co-ngg 发表于 2013-9-11 09:53
就是牙坏了，要把螺丝固定在牙床上，然后上面再套个烤瓷套，，这是没办法的办法啊，贵啊，，但做完应该可 ...

几千nzd？就一个牙？国内几百就ok了啊？我还想说去把老的扒了弄个陶瓷的、那还不如买机票回国弄

作者: duazalea 时间: 2013-9-11 16:12:41

本帖最后由 duazalea 于 2013-9-11 15:13 编辑

﹍蕝蝂尐丫頭＂发表于 2013-9-11 15:02
几千nzd？就一个牙？国内几百就ok了啊？我还想说去把老的扒了弄个陶瓷的、那还不如买机票回国弄

国内种植牙好像是1万到2万一个牙，但这个种植牙挺麻烦，首先要先把牙连同牙根拔了，，，然后还要让牙床张好，，过个2，3个月还要去再做个手术把金属螺丝镶进牙床里，然后再回家等1，2个月，等张好了，再去把一个烤瓷冠安在上面，所以前后需要最少半年时间，这样一年回国3次，机票钱也太贵了，，再说如果有什么问题，还要回国去修，在新西兰做的好处是终身保修，坏了可以随时去装牙的诊所弄

作者: ﹍蕝蝂尐丫頭＂ 时间: 2013-9-12 02:34:22

duazalea 发表于 2013-9-11 15:12
国内种植牙好像是1万到2万一个牙，但这个种植牙挺麻烦，首先要先把牙连同牙根拔了，，，然后还要让牙床 ...

汗、这什么情况、不知道是不是跟我之前看过一样、就是粘上去、看似没那么复杂、不过俺有个牙坏了、怕疼、到现在还没去弄、回国本来应该看、真心胆小

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-12 09:10:04

cappuccino06 发表于 2013-9-11 09:56
问下jacky，种植牙费用大概多少？我是后面的一颗大牙拔掉了。请短信我一下，谢谢

depends, around 4500 to 5500

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-12 09:10:49

co-ngg 发表于 2013-9-11 09:52
您好，，我先咨询您一下，我2005年在国内做的烤瓷牙（上面左侧门牙一个），，上个月这个烤瓷牙整个脱落了 ...

i can try n see whts left n whether i can temporaly put it back on.

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-12 09:11:41

1313xiaohua 发表于 2013-9-11 10:22
你们要先搞清楚植牙，跟做一般的烤瓷牙套，是不一样的。
植牙的功夫多很多。要做手术做个牙基在骨头里，然 ...

now if things are favourable, u can finish an implant in as short as 3 months. conditions applies of cos

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-12 09:14:09

co-ngg 发表于 2013-9-11 12:34
我今天去粘牙了，，，好像 jacky他们家诊所我这样的一个门牙是6千刀，，，不知道一次性付款有没有优惠，具 ...

did i see u yesterday?

implant really depends, i will say skykiwi customer, i will try to do 5.5, if i can. (using zicronia abutment and crown, its the cost of materials varies).

Don't undermind your treatment becos of price, its your front tooth and you need someone who is responsible to do it for you.

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-12 09:15:43

﹍蕝蝂尐丫頭＂发表于 2013-9-11 15:02
几千nzd？就一个牙？国内几百就ok了啊？我还想说去把老的扒了弄个陶瓷的、那还不如买机票回国弄

its different...... we need to do surgery and put an implant foundation into the bone.....

my frd update to date pricing, shanghai implant cost around 15000 too..... we need to pay GST and we have higher overheads..... hope customer understands.

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-12 09:16:08

duazalea 发表于 2013-9-11 15:12
国内种植牙好像是1万到2万一个牙，但这个种植牙挺麻烦，首先要先把牙连同牙根拔了，，，然后还要让牙床 ...

agrees!

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-12 09:17:08

﹍蕝蝂尐丫頭＂发表于 2013-9-12 01:34
汗、这什么情况、不知道是不是跟我之前看过一样、就是粘上去、看似没那么复杂、不过俺有个牙坏了、怕疼、 ...

Your one is a Crown..... not implant..... Crown - we put on your own tooth, Implant, we put on your new titanium foundation.

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-12 09:19:27

JAMESCHEUNG 发表于 2013-9-10 22:42
我老公是在 Institute of Dental Implants & Periodontics做的，他也做的是门牙，05年做的，我觉得做得挺好 ...

Institute of dental implants and periodontics is my frd! =) Michael danish-myer.

But they only do the surgical part and doesn't do the crown....

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-12 09:20:06

本帖最后由 jackylam 于 2013-9-12 08:23 编辑

﹍蕝蝂尐丫頭＂发表于 2013-9-11 03:28
什么是值牙？？换新的？？

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作者: ﹍蕝蝂尐丫頭＂ 时间: 2013-9-12 10:27:22

jackylam 发表于 2013-9-12 08:20
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好吓人哇～什么情况必须这么做啊？！

作者: duazalea 时间: 2013-9-12 11:06:07

﹍蕝蝂尐丫頭＂发表于 2013-9-12 01:34
汗、这什么情况、不知道是不是跟我之前看过一样、就是粘上去、看似没那么复杂、不过俺有个牙坏了、怕疼、 ...

你要是有坏牙赶紧看了吧，我就是因为害怕看牙，一拖再拖，，，结果到看牙时只能把神经拿掉了，，，，

作者: co-ngg 时间: 2013-9-12 11:11:05

本帖最后由 co-ngg 于 2013-9-12 10:15 编辑

jackylam 发表于 2013-9-12 08:10
depends, around 4500 to 5500

我想问问jacky医生，是不是后面大牙比较便宜呀，，，我昨天去avondale的smile dental粘的牙，，，听他们说的，我这个门牙做种植牙要6千，看来现在要攒钱了，，，真不便宜呀，，，不过要是终身保修也值得了

作者: JAMESCHEUNG 时间: 2013-9-12 11:11:16

jackylam 发表于 2013-9-12 08:19
Institute of dental implants and periodontics is my frd! =) Michael danish-myer.

But they on ...

我老公那颗crown是在北岸做的，implant就是micheal做的。

作者: co-ngg 时间: 2013-9-12 11:11:59

﹍蕝蝂尐丫頭＂发表于 2013-9-12 09:27
好吓人哇～什么情况必须这么做啊？！

我这个情况跟图片这个差不多的，只是我没摔断牙，我是n年前在国内做的烤瓷牙，现在脱落了，，，就是这个样子的，，，，

作者: co-ngg 时间: 2013-9-12 11:24:49

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作者: tomato 时间: 2013-9-12 13:28:26

国内种牙要两万五左右一颗,我姐姐刚做过.
因为要弄好几次,所以还是在本地做比较方便.

作者: slj001 时间: 2013-9-12 18:08:58

co-ngg 发表于 2013-9-12 10:11
我这个情况跟图片这个差不多的，只是我没摔断牙，我是n年前在国内做的烤瓷牙，现在脱落了，，，就是这个 ...

我的烤瓷也掉了，我还以为就我的质量不好呢，原来我们一样啊。

不过我掉了后也没去理它，现在一直是半颗牙没有烤瓷，好在是里边的大牙，不影响美观

作者: ﹍蕝蝂尐丫頭＂ 时间: 2013-9-13 05:24:42

duazalea 发表于 2013-9-12 10:06
你要是有坏牙赶紧看了吧，我就是因为害怕看牙，一拖再拖，，，结果到看牙时只能把神经拿掉了，，，，

我也是怕啊、神经拿掉痛、我就是被拿一次帕了、对看牙阴影啊

作者: duazalea 时间: 2013-9-13 10:41:51

﹍蕝蝂尐丫頭＂发表于 2013-9-13 04:24
我也是怕啊、神经拿掉痛、我就是被拿一次帕了、对看牙阴影啊

拿神经是打麻药的，不疼的，，不象小时候在国内都不给打麻药，，，在nz只要钱花到位了，绝对不让你疼的

作者: co-ngg 时间: 2013-9-13 17:01:55

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作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-14 11:03:43

﹍蕝蝂尐丫頭＂发表于 2013-9-12 09:27
好吓人哇～什么情况必须这么做啊？！

if your tooth is beyond saving...... need to come out and u want a replacement.

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-14 11:04:25

duazalea 发表于 2013-9-12 10:06
你要是有坏牙赶紧看了吧，我就是因为害怕看牙，一拖再拖，，，结果到看牙时只能把神经拿掉了，，，，

yes.............預防勝於治療

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-14 11:06:57

co-ngg 发表于 2013-9-12 10:11
我想问问jacky医生，是不是后面大牙比较便宜呀，，，我昨天去avondale的smile dental粘的牙，，，听他们 ...

It depends.... but we offer same quality implant with lower price. We only use Nobel Biocare implant and its life time warranty for the implant as well...... and we only offer you 5000....but u can go avondale for 6000 if u don't trust me....... I just want to look after my own 同胞 only.......

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-14 11:16:18

co-ngg 发表于 2013-9-12 10:11
我这个情况跟图片这个差不多的，只是我没摔断牙，我是n年前在国内做的烤瓷牙，现在脱落了，，，就是这个 ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSwHElVodVg

we have sirona XG3D in house CT and Also the newest Cerec AC, which we can plan the implant from top to bottom and provide very quality treatment. Only a few in Auckland (maybe 1st in Chinese) to invest in this technology.

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-14 11:17:18

tomato 发表于 2013-9-12 12:28
国内种牙要两万五左右一颗,我姐姐刚做过.
因为要弄好几次,所以还是在本地做比较方便.

Also we provide better maintainence care for patient in NZ. If something goes wrong, we can attend to it much quicker and easier. No need to fly all the way back if the screw is loosen etc.

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-14 11:18:41

slj001 发表于 2013-9-12 17:08
我的烤瓷也掉了，我还以为就我的质量不好呢，原来我们一样啊。不过我掉了后也没去理它，现在一直是半 ...

You better get it covered otherwise, if the tooth get infected, u might need to take the tooth out. Its always better to fix it when its still healthy... don't wait till its in pain. Normally its too late at that stage

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-14 11:19:17

﹍蕝蝂尐丫頭＂发表于 2013-9-13 04:24
我也是怕啊、神经拿掉痛、我就是被拿一次帕了、对看牙阴影啊

its quite painless...... maybe abit sore for few days afterwards..... but shouldn't be that bad

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-14 11:19:49

duazalea 发表于 2013-9-13 09:41
拿神经是打麻药的，不疼的，，不象小时候在国内都不给打麻药，，，在nz只要钱花到位了，绝对不让你疼的

agrees..........

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-14 11:21:06

co-ngg 发表于 2013-9-13 16:01
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作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-14 11:21:54

tomato 发表于 2013-9-12 12:28
国内种牙要两万五左右一颗,我姐姐刚做过.
因为要弄好几次,所以还是在本地做比较方便.

here is only 5000 too

作者: slj001 时间: 2013-9-15 17:21:43

jackylam 发表于 2013-9-14 10:18
You better get it covered otherwise, if the tooth get infected, u might need to take the tooth out ...

你好，Jacky医生。谢谢你的建议。但不知道我重新换个烤瓷牙套是不是很麻烦，大概需要多少钱？

作者: 宝宝520 时间: 2013-9-15 22:13:24

楼主住哪里。。。。如果东区我就知道。

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-17 09:25:09

slj001 发表于 2013-9-15 16:21
你好，Jacky医生。谢谢你的建议。但不知道我重新换个烤瓷牙套是不是很麻烦，大概需要多少钱？

maybe all u need is just a filling to start with.... , crown is expensive in here, but quality is of cos better than china, the reason is 1. the dentist always make the crown too big in china, so will have overhang and induce gum disease. 2. NZ lab is normally done by same person while in china first person pour the models, next person wax up, 3rd person do colouring and 4th person do the finishing... Cos its a mass production factory line.... That's why its alot more expensive in here.

作者: co-ngg 时间: 2013-9-17 11:51:19

本帖最后由 co-ngg 于 2013-9-17 10:52 编辑

jackylam 发表于 2013-9-14 10:06
It depends.... but we offer same quality implant with lower price. We only use Nobel Biocare impl ...

谢谢JACKY医生，，，我现在快生了，，，（还有2周吧），我想断奶后去找您去做种植牙，5000刀是我能承受的的最大限度了，谢谢您了，，我只是先去AVONDALE的SMILE DENTAL把牙粘上，，是那里的医生让我跟您谈的，请问该怎样联系您呢？能留个手机什么的吗？

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-17 16:26:29

slj001 发表于 2013-9-15 16:21
你好，Jacky医生。谢谢你的建议。但不知道我重新换个烤瓷牙套是不是很麻烦，大概需要多少钱？

i need to see before i can tell u if u need it or not... but i m going away oversea tmr, back early october. if u can wait, come and see me! if not, u can see my staffs too! they are all very good =)

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-17 16:28:41

co-ngg 发表于 2013-9-17 10:51
谢谢JACKY医生，，，我现在快生了，，，（还有2周吧），我想断奶后去找您去做种植牙，5000刀是我能承受 ...

take care of ur babyfirst! =) congratulations! My staffs will look after u for now! I am going oversea and when i m back ur cute baby will be born!

No rush, i guess, just come and see me when u are ready! I will be here anway! call my callcentre, on 09- 8354422, or my mobile 0223818838 maybe after my trip back in oct. or wechat me ...wechat is the best!

作者: 人左之由 时间: 2013-9-22 23:46:30

想问一下，从种植金属螺丝，到最后安上烤瓷的牙之间最短需要等待多少时间呢？谢谢了。

作者: duazalea 时间: 2013-9-23 00:39:31

人左之由发表于 2013-9-22 22:46
想问一下，从种植金属螺丝，到最后安上烤瓷的牙之间最短需要等待多少时间呢？谢谢了。

听说好像要半年那样吧

作者: 人左之由 时间: 2013-9-23 00:52:05

duazalea 发表于 2013-9-22 23:39
听说好像要半年那样吧

大概查了一下，3~6个月的为多，可也有说1个月的，所以混乱了。。。

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-23 01:04:54

ok,

Traditionally, recommendation is 6 months.... but as technology gets better, and research shown it can be restore as quick as 6 weeks after implants go in!

But every single patient is different, and every location is different, like..... lower jaw, bone is denser, so in theory, it can be restore earlier than top one.

so, 6 weeks or 6 months, depends on bone type, implant system, the initial torque the implant goes in etc. therefore, its a professional judgement call.

Hope it helps!

作者: freeflydream 时间: 2013-9-23 01:17:25

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jackylam 发表于 2013-9-14 10:16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSwHElVodVg

we have sirona XG3D in house CT and Also the newest ...

1st in chinese???

I only have been implanted one tooth in china!
but they also used this 3d technology to give me the whole view of my all teeth and gave me some advices for further cures. and that device was very likely with yours in youtube video.

Trust me, the medical devices of china are really advanced!

作者: jackylam 时间: 2013-9-25 01:51:46

freeflydream 发表于 2013-9-23 00:17
1st in chinese???

I only have been implanted one tooth in china!

We have conebeam CT for a long long time.

Sirona is now using Cerec CADCAM technology integrated with CBCT,  so you can actually planned the whole implant from top down. instead bottom up.

Cos if you put implant by dentist or specialist, the restorative dentist can only work with what it's left behind.  If angulation is not right, it has to be cement retained.  Now we can plan everything from top down using computer and able to manufacture the surgical guide stent from cerec.

This machine only released like 18 -24 months ago.  Before that , we use CBCT alone.... we just use that to look at the bone structure for implant.... but we can't plan crown on top of it....

Cerec and XG3D, i think only like 3 dentists in auckland got them.  This is germany technology, which is fully integrated from all ceramic crown to the implant.

So u can say its a newer generation of CBCT which includes restorative options and planning.

Hope it clarifies for u.

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