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作者: ps4bb 时间: 2012-2-16 13:30:30 标题: check reference 还要二选一，公平吗？

通过了interview, 收到email说 are down to the last two candidates now and would like to do reference checks.
这也就是说道了最后还是要二选一，check 了reference 后又不要，被公司知道我要走了，不是很不好吗？

作者: sun 时间: 2012-2-16 13:33:08

找之前经理，，LZ PM下我去哪了啊。。。。

作者: ps4bb 时间: 2012-2-16 13:42:43

sun 发表于 2012-2-16 12:33
找之前经理，，LZ PM下我去哪了啊。。。。

但他们要先在的经理和teamleader, 真麻烦。

作者: 呵呵 时间: 2012-2-16 14:03:00

还有这样的？

作者: 飘一季心情 时间: 2012-2-16 14:07:18

还带这个样的。。。。。。

作者: 呵呵 时间: 2012-2-16 14:26:17

You certainly aren’t obligated to provide your current employer as a reference. However, if the company you’re interviewing with is insisting on it, be aware that refusing may take you out of consideration as a result.

However, this is pretty unusual. Most companies understand why candidates don’t want their current employer contacted, and it’s odd that this one is insisting. Usually, the current employer is either skipped or is contacted only after they’ve decided to make an offer — which they make contingent on a good reference from your current employer.

In the rare instance where a company absolutely insists on contacting your current boss before making an offer, these are your options:

1. Take the risk and allow it. Warn your boss ahead of time. Some people in this situation tell their boss they’re applying for a part-time or volunteer position, although I think that’s risky.

2. If you’ve had a previous boss at your current job who has now moved on, ask the company if they’d contact her instead.

3. Hold firm with this company. Tell them you are not able to jeopardize your current employment without a firm offer in hand from them, but that you’d be happy to supply many other references and to allow them to contact your current company once you have an offer (which can be contingent on that reference check, assuming you know the reference will be fine). You might even throw in a mention that it’s highly unusual for a company to insist on contacting a candidate’s current employer at this stage; maybe you’re dealing with someone clueless. You can also throw in, “In this economy, it’s not a risk I can take.” If they don’t understand that, consider that a pretty substantial red flag about this new company.

Personally, I’d do #3. What do others think?

作者: 呵呵 时间: 2012-2-16 14:29:15

You are under no obligation to do that. An employer cannot contact your current employer without your permission. They cannot force you, but they seem to be trying that - that is not good business practice and unprofessional. Simply tell them that you have not told them you are looking and you do not want them to contact your current employer. Offer another kind of reference if you can. Since it seems they are insisting, my advice is to look elsewhere - these people would likely give you trouble. You have a right to your privacy and do not have to jeopardize your job for a potential one. If you have not told the potential employer this, then you need to do so.

EDIT: Do not let this new employer force you to do something against your wishes. It may sound like it has good potential, but if they can manipulate you into doing something that is questionable they have control.

作者: Casalanca 时间: 2012-2-16 14:47:43

from my experience , they are not really contact you manager sometimes. the bloody agent will do the stupid check. that's why i am not going with them any more.

作者: 呵呵 时间: 2012-2-16 14:53:18

换个角度想，更你竞争的另外一个老兄估计也打退堂鼓了，这时候你破釜沉舟。。。。

作者: ps4bb 时间: 2012-2-16 14:57:44

谢谢ls专业回答。我在考虑中。

作者: ps4bb 时间: 2012-2-16 15:00:27

呵呵发表于 2012-2-16 13:53
换个角度想，更你竞争的另外一个老兄估计也打退堂鼓了，这时候你破釜沉舟。。。。

还真有打退堂鼓的打算。

作者: 韵儿 时间: 2012-2-16 16:13:31

我觉得很正常啊，很多工作都是到最后几个适合的就开始查reference，我自己申请工作和我们公司招人的时候都这样。到这步了最好还是和现在的雇主说一下，因为新雇主和你现雇主联系的时候会要问很多问题，会占用他们挺多上班的时间，要是没有告诉他们有这回事我想很多人都会有点不耐烦吧。

作者: mochatruffle 时间: 2012-2-16 20:42:05

我之前也是............说要直接和现在MANAGER谈...我说NO....然后HR过了十分钟后再打给我...直接给了OFFER.................哈哈哈..

作者: ps4bb 时间: 2012-2-16 20:57:13

mochatruffle 发表于 2012-2-16 19:42
我之前也是............说要直接和现在MANAGER谈...我说NO....然后HR过了十分钟后再打给我...直接给了OFFE ...

原来可以说NO啊，早知我也说NO了。

作者: Ginkgo 时间: 2012-2-16 21:14:05

正常，当有二个面试者条件相当时，往往就要用Reference Checked 来衡量了，假如只有一个特别合适的，则只对合适者进行 Reference Checked。

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