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作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-10 12:56:09 标题: Updates! Which is better ? 100k salary or contractor rate of $720 a day

本帖最后由 ysun062 于 2011-5-13 10:06 编辑

If you had to make a decision between staying in NZ can earn 100k salary a year (plus $240 a week of living allowance, since the work is in Wellington, so company pay for all travel cost (return flight each week and taxi from/to airport, , accomondation, and the allowance) or going to australia and earn $720 a day on contract (1 year contract, with high possibility of extension), what will you choose ?

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Thanks everyone for giving me good advices, I really appreciated. Havnt made a final decision yet, still have 1-2 weeks to think about it before a final decision. Will keep you guys updated as it goes...

A few people dont believe what I said is true and questioned my creditbility, look, I am describing a situation in my original post above, if you read it, I never said this was my situation ! so whether you believe it or not, its not important to the discussion ! I wont spend any more time answering those question about if this is true or not.

I came to nz at a young age, been here for 16 years, I can speak/read fluent chinese, but cant write much, only simple stuff, and its slow. So hopefully you can understand.

作者: 陌生的香港人 时间: 2011-5-10 13:01:54

本帖最后由陌生的香港人于 2011-5-10 12:02 编辑

Another show off post by LZ......

作者: 天天打飞机 时间: 2011-5-10 13:05:57

I think its time to get your first girlfriend

作者: Eyeport 时间: 2011-5-10 13:25:55

Time to find a job that gives you $720/ hour : P

作者: Nightside 时间: 2011-5-10 13:28:40

楼祖是干什么的？军火业还是毒品业？

作者: BabyG 时间: 2011-5-10 13:30:42

很好奇想知道是什麼工作。

作者: Ardell假睫毛 时间: 2011-5-10 13:33:51

$720 per day sounds like a job in the mine.

My colleague's son works in a mine and earns that much in Oz...

作者: PhoneCareLtd 时间: 2011-5-10 13:48:49

Telecom的COE？

作者: NECN8 时间: 2011-5-10 13:53:08

选择之前，先去WAREHOUSE买条新内裤吧。内裤破了，很容易蛋疼。

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-10 13:59:39

Another show off post by LZ......
陌生的香港人发表于 2011-5-10 12:01

honestly its not my intention to showoff, i actually do have a hard decision to make, and liked to have someone here who has been through these thing to give me some good advice

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-10 14:00:08

楼祖是干什么的？军火业还是毒品业？
Nightside 发表于 2011-5-10 12:28

work in IT

作者: 天天打飞机 时间: 2011-5-10 14:00:15

Telecom的COE？
PhoneCareLtd 发表于 2011-5-10 12:48

晕。CEO好不好。。。。。

丢脸

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-10 14:00:44

很好奇想知道是什麼工作。
BabyG 发表于 2011-5-10 12:30

IT consultant/developer/programmer

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-10 14:01:57

$720 per day sounds like a job in the mine.

My colleague's son works in a mine and earns that much in Oz...
Ardell假睫毛发表于 2011-5-10 12:33

yea, i heard truck driving in the mine earns like 150k per year in Oz

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-10 14:03:18

选择之前，先去WAREHOUSE买条新内裤吧。内裤破了，很容易蛋疼。
NECN8 发表于 2011-5-10 12:53

lol, good one mate

作者: PhoneCareLtd 时间: 2011-5-10 14:03:46

哈哈看到这么高的年薪一激动打错了

晕。CEO好不好。。。。。

丢脸
天天打飞机发表于 2011-5-10 13:00

作者: ybbest 时间: 2011-5-10 14:04:13

本帖最后由 ybbest 于 2011-5-10 13:07 编辑

I would choose Aussie, as it will open up your career.I am sure you can always come back to NZ and make the same amount money.Another reason to consider going Aussie is that Welly is on the fault line , Man fault line , look at what happen in Chch.

Plus, in IT , it is not uncommon for people earning above 100k , especially people with skills that in high demand.

作者: PhoneCareLtd 时间: 2011-5-10 14:05:20

LZ应该去US 至少200K+

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-10 14:10:48

I would choose Aussie, as it will open up your career.I am sure you can always come back to NZ and make the same amount money.Another reason to consider going Aussie is that Welly is on the fault line ...
ybbest 发表于 2011-5-10 13:04

shit ! good point ! didnt take that into consideration before ! dont want to risk my life !

But will it really be good for career if go to Aus and be a contractor ? if i stay in nz, it'll be a lead role, whereas in Aus, its a contractor role, i thought it is almost not possible to move up the cooperate level for contractors ?

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-10 14:12:42

LZ应该去US 至少200K+
PhoneCareLtd 发表于 2011-5-10 13:05

dont think so, I had a chat with a workmate who used to work in the US for 8 years, and he told me that senior developer gets around 90 to 110k as perm, so he felt that its the same as in nz (not taken into account the currency differences)

作者: ybbest 时间: 2011-5-10 14:18:09

19# ysun062
I am not quite sure , still well at the bottom of the ladder.I would say depending on the project and technology and the size of the company as well.One year fixed-term contract for a IT project is huge project though.Wondering what sort of technology you are doing?

作者: Eyeport 时间: 2011-5-10 14:18:37

Theres always more opportunities in OZ. Why not take the offer here in Welly first? If you don't like it then its never too late to take up a contractor role elsewhere? relatively speaking, contracting jobs are easier to find.

作者: Eyeport 时间: 2011-5-10 14:20:47

shit ! good point ! didnt take that into consideration before ! dont want to risk my life !

But will it really be good for career if go to Aus and be a contractor ? if i stay in nz, it'll be a ...
ysun062 发表于 2011-5-10 13:10

a senior role in a good firm will add more value to ur CV too...u might like the job why not give it a go?

作者: 酷到底 时间: 2011-5-10 14:26:55

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作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-10 14:32:23

19# ysun062
I am not quite sure , still well at the bottom of the ladder.I would say depending on the project and technology and the size of the company as well.One year fixed-term contract for a I ...
ybbest 发表于 2011-5-10 13:18

i am specialised in insurance industry, so the technology is product specific, so the technology is very simple, just have to follow the vendors way of doing things, i guess its similar to SAP, salesforce.com etc,, very product specific, and there are few jobs out there, since not many major insurance companies in NZ/Aus, having said that, its very much in demand (since not many people have the experience).

so if i go to aus, i'll be doing the same thing, same product, same tech... just for different insurance company

作者: 武夫的眉笔 时间: 2011-5-10 15:40:37

为什么需要考虑？720一天等于20多万一年，而且还是一年的合同，就算是到期没有合同工拿，再转员工，为什么要考虑呢？

雇主为什么会出这种offer呢？是内部人故意捞油水搞出来的职位吗？

作者: 闲人莫入 时间: 2011-5-10 15:41:45

当然是100K的BETTER了，CONTRACTER太不稳定了，随时要冒被撤换的风险。

作者: 友情客串 时间: 2011-5-10 15:49:58

作一个决定也要在网上发问, 我是老板一定不会用你

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-10 15:51:42

为什么需要考虑？720一天等于20多万一年，而且还是一年的合同，就算是到期没有合同工拿，再转员工，为什么要考虑呢？

雇主为什么会出这种offer呢？是内部人故意捞油水搞出来的职位吗？
武夫的眉笔发表于 2011-5-10 14:40

lets be realistic for a second, 720 a day will not be 200k in a year, I cant work 52 weeks a year !

i think work 44 week a year is more realistic. I did some calculation using online take home pay calculator,,

if 100k, plus the living allowance, i'll get about 1500 a week take home pay.
if 720 a day in aus, i'll get about 2000 a week take home pay.

作者: smallice 时间: 2011-5-10 15:59:27

10# ysun062

hard my axx

作者: 武夫的眉笔 时间: 2011-5-10 16:01:06

lets be realistic for a second, 720 a day will not be 200k in a year, I cant work 52 weeks a year !

i think work 44 week a year is more realistic. I did some calculation using online take home ...
ysun062 发表于 2011-5-10 14:51

哦，原来是出国呀，那就不一样了，有好多人拿着很低的工资都不一定要出国呢，出国就不完全是钱的问题了

作者: 阿海 时间: 2011-5-10 16:17:31

$720 x 48 x 5 = $172800, then work out the after tax income between $173k in Auss, and $100k in NZ.

Heck just go to Australia.

Simple.

作者: 面朝大海 时间: 2011-5-10 16:25:34

哎。。。。Life is unfair, get used to it !!!

作者: 呵呵 时间: 2011-5-10 17:05:12

contractor 一年就干2000小时，记住这个你就容易算工资咯。你一个小时90，一年就是18万

个人觉得10万就别来惠灵顿，折腾，钱也不多

反正是折腾，如果你是单身的话，干脆折腾到澳洲去

作者: 酷到底 时间: 2011-5-10 17:23:11

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作者: zpewei 时间: 2011-5-10 17:39:21

如果一天720是澳币，那当然去澳洲了，如果720是纽币那我觉得还是年薪10万靠谱一些，毕竟有holiday pay allowance之类的。你到澳洲不还得住房买东西，花费可是按澳元计，普通生活澳洲花费肯定高过Wellington, 如果真要到矿场那类生活环境恶劣的地方，那花费更高。

作者: 太阳鸟鸟 时间: 2011-5-10 17:40:54

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作者: LL330 时间: 2011-5-10 17:43:15

AUS/USD 1:1.08
NZD/USD 1:0.79

作者: komiko 时间: 2011-5-10 17:43:36

australia for sure

it s a simple question.

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-10 18:15:49

作一个决定也要在网上发问, 我是老板一定不会用你
友情客串发表于 2011-5-10 14:49

thats why u will never be my boss....

作者: ideyate 时间: 2011-5-10 18:39:23

本帖最后由 ideyate 于 2011-5-10 17:41 编辑

你从7.5w一年一下跳到10w一年? 公司还什么都给你报了，这起码是12w吧。牛。。。

作者: 天天天蓝 时间: 2011-5-10 19:28:41

哇，羡慕啊。

作者: John.G 时间: 2011-5-10 19:35:47

Another show off post by LZ......
陌生的香港人发表于 2011-5-10 12:01

94......BS下

作者: tofu 时间: 2011-5-10 19:48:58

去澳洲吧,这么年轻,换一个国家,多一点经历,而且澳洲,我是在BRISBANE,什么都比新西兰便宜,除了鸡蛋, 同样是K-MARK,澳洲会比新西兰的便宜三分之一,当然你不能算汇率,因为你是在当地赚钱,所以长远来说,应该还是澳洲比较好,以后再回来养老,反正你在澳洲也交税,回来一样有养老金.

作者: 佦尐綠 时间: 2011-5-10 20:28:47

sick brag about how rich u gonna be.
it really depends on the situation.

作者: 2795358 时间: 2011-5-10 23:03:12

australia .........

作者: zelda1982 时间: 2011-5-10 23:10:23

本帖最后由 zelda1982 于 2011-5-10 22:13 编辑

I have asked one of my collegue (he is earnning 650K at the moment) why he came back to NZ and took a 50% pay cut, his answer is lifestyle exchange for pay. If you prefer to stay in NZ, income definitely shouldn't be your first priority.

作者: 呵呵 时间: 2011-5-10 23:23:23

650K的人enjoy的lifestyle不是我等能去enjoy的lifestyle。650K的人的lifestyle是周末可以乘直升机去冰川耍耍，我等的lifestyle可能是去te papa转转

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-11 12:10:46

去澳洲吧,这么年轻,换一个国家,多一点经历,而且澳洲,我是在BRISBANE,什么都比新西兰便宜,除了鸡蛋, 同样是K-MARK,澳洲会比新西兰的便宜三分之一,当然你不能算汇率,因为你是在当地赚钱,所以长远来说,应该还是澳洲比较 ...
tofu 发表于 2011-5-10 18:48

Thanks for the advice,, yes i think working in another country is good for the long term, will look good on cv...

作者: 向后看的鱼 时间: 2011-5-11 12:18:15

自然是澳洲了。这份contract收入高，澳洲市场大，而且多一份经验。要知道contracting和full time做起来挺不一样的。。。

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-11 12:19:49

自然是澳洲了。这份contract收入高，澳洲市场大，而且多一份经验。要知道contracting和full time做起来挺不一样的。。。
向后看的鱼发表于 2011-5-11 11:18

what will be the difference ? more hard work as contractor ?

作者: prayer914 时间: 2011-5-11 12:43:58

绝对选后者....LZ有实力, 就算一年后没合同了. 再找也是很简单的事情.

作者: 阿海 时间: 2011-5-11 13:38:44

Australia has a lot more chinese girls to choose from compared to Wellington...

Take the money while you are young, and when you get older, you may try your hand at franchise business or real estate.

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-11 14:37:28

绝对选后者....LZ有实力, 就算一年后没合同了. 再找也是很简单的事情.
prayer914 发表于 2011-5-11 11:43

yes, i think because i have no experience working as a contractor in the past, it is something that I am not fully comfortable with, thanks for the advice

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-11 14:39:05

Australia has a lot more chinese girls to choose from compared to Wellington...

Take the money while you are young, and when you get older, you may try your hand at franchise business or real estat ...
阿海发表于 2011-5-11 12:38

yea, money is very important to me at this stage in life, got wife and baby at home, so money helps...

作者: 向后看的鱼 时间: 2011-5-11 16:11:03

what will be the difference ? more hard work as contractor ?
ysun062 发表于 2011-5-11 11:19

You'll have to work under a lot more pressure and people would normally expect more from a contractor. Really good oppotunity for you to develop yourself.

作者: duncan_kai 时间: 2011-5-11 16:12:39

yes, i think because i have no experience working as a contractor in the past, it is something that I am not fully comfortable with, thanks for the advice
ysun062 发表于 2011-5-11 13:37

大胆的去澳洲吧,我看你都在卖前往皇后镇的机票了,澳洲机会多.年薪18万澳币在澳洲也算是不错的收入了......

作者: 向后看的鱼 时间: 2011-5-11 16:17:48

嗯，更何况做contractor，各种消费都可以拿来退税。。。

作者: ray2008 时间: 2011-5-11 16:21:13

55# ysun062

Hi there, it is great to know that we can have such a role model to follow and you earn honour for Chinese. Good on you!

In my humble opinion, yes, money is something does matter but definitely not all. I am sure you can have your lucky wife and baby a very good life with 100k in NZ. And I will give a vote to the role with more leadership involved. Three questions:

1. You are not meant to be a developer or contractor for your entire life, so why not start to move on a year earlier. I think you will be able to find a lot of similar contractor opportunities in Australia in next a couple of years. However, are you confident to get the same role next year in either NZ or AU?

2. Long term money or short term one. Back to money, it does make difference this year if you would have chosen to take the contract. Will it make more differences in your entire life and will those differences compensate the money you "lose" this year if you start being a leader or start-up?

3. Do you still remember your dream? And what does your dream mean to your wife and your baby?

I am sorry if this sounds like an old man speaking to a young man which is supposed to be the other way around :) Anyway, if I could have been someone as good as you in the future, I will go the leader role. Hope my two-cents helps and I am sure you will be excellent whatever decision you have made.

Good luck and all the best!

作者: vicentyang 时间: 2011-5-11 16:36:24

I think the reason why you can't make the decision is coz you want to earn big amount money and stable. You will never find a way to balance that. You mention you work in insurance industry, you should understand that's called "risk". That's the decision you can only make by yourself, coz you are the only person who knows what do you really want. don't be panic.

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-11 16:58:37

55# ysun062

Hi there, it is great to know that we can have such a role model to follow and you earn honour for Chinese. Good on you!

In my humble opinion, yes, money is something does matter ...
ray2008 发表于 2011-5-11 15:21

Thanks for your comment, I am by no means a role model or honouring chinese. I am just guy who works in IT industry. You have given me a new direction to think about this,, really appreciate your comments.

I thought about your questions:
1. I am not confident i will get the same role next year.

2. I think its a very good question ! I actually dont have an answer for that. It will be a big turning point for me either way, if i go down the contractor path,, i will have to put the hard work in, focus on technical side,, build strong tech ability, work long hours, and make good money for the next 4 or 5 years (if i can continues finding contractor role). If I stay in NZ, I have a good opportunity to break into middle management level, it can be a good chance to transition from technical to management/sales. In terms of money,, even if i get into middle management, the salary will be 130-140k max, can not get any higher than that in the next 5 years.... But it can give me a long shot at stepping up to senior management (i.e CxO level), which will be a long long way to go, 10 years ++ if I get very very lucky. If I go down the contractor path,, its not possible to progress into middle/senior management..

3. I have no dream after all these years of shit... I've started working straight after uni, its been 4.5 years now, changed 3 permenent job, more than 10 part time job, lost all the dream.

作者: starcub 时间: 2011-5-11 22:59:33

本帖最后由 starcub 于 2011-5-11 22:01 编辑

4年半工作经验的java developer能有这么高的工资? 大多数4年半经验的应该还是intermediate-high,好点的能到senior吧.

几种可能,
要么是你真的很强很强很强,
要么是雇主脑残
要么是你是大忽悠(忽悠了雇主)
要么是你是大忽悠(在这里忽悠大家)

我的reference来自于你的另一个帖子 7楼.
还有,不要一天到晚用英文,好像你没地方可以打中文似的.

作者: duncan_kai 时间: 2011-5-11 23:39:54

4年半工作经验的java developer能有这么高的工资? 大多数4年半经验的应该还是intermediate-high,好点的能到senior吧.

几种可能,
要么是你真的很强很强很强,
要么是雇主脑残
要么是你是大忽悠(忽悠了雇主)
要么 ...
starcub 发表于 2011-5-11 21:59

貌似很久没有发言了,超过3个月就要被...............

作者: xli113 时间: 2011-5-12 01:24:07

在这里混的没人赚那么多 LZ要想得到好意见还去去洋人网站问问吧你可以用中文跟洋人聊呵呵

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-12 10:45:41

4年半工作经验的java developer能有这么高的工资? 大多数4年半经验的应该还是intermediate-high,好点的能到senior吧.

几种可能,
要么是你真的很强很强很强,
要么是雇主脑残
要么是你是大忽悠(忽悠了雇主)
要么 ...
starcub 发表于 2011-5-11 21:59

I dont do java these days.. nice work digging out my old post back in 2008 ! I think in my case: "I am 大忽悠(忽悠了雇主)" and just had some luck went my way.

作者: ybbest 时间: 2011-5-12 11:18:52

65# ysun062
Yes , it really depends on what technology you are doing , if you have 4.5 years experiences with SharePoint or dynamics AX or dynamics CRM , I think it would be really easy to get the same amount of money as LZ.But if you are doing bespoke dev , like asp.net , java ... it would be harder but if you are really good ,you can get the same amount.

作者: 呵呵 时间: 2011-5-12 13:44:40

工作4年多到达10万，本事加点运气，正常！澳洲contracot,时薪90，也处于中等偏上。不要羡慕嫉妒恨。有人把这种情况贴上来，你原来不了解，现在让你开了眼界，你就要感谢有这个机会了解。唧唧歪歪，有点像井底的大蛤蟆了

再加上如果你知道楼主10岁就来了新西兰（不要问我是怎么知道的），你就会知道他能看懂你的帖子，就很不错了；而且其他一些疑问就可以解释了，因为他基本已经本土化，社交语言都不是问题

作者: 武夫的眉笔 时间: 2011-5-12 16:11:39

以前有一个IT人讨论薪资的帖子就出现过类似的问题，感觉应该转变思维想想怎样变得更好，而不是质疑

气人有笑人无，永远没好日子过，也没好朋友交

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-12 16:23:31

工作4年多到达10万，本事加点运气，正常！澳洲contracot,时薪90，也处于中等偏上。不要羡慕嫉妒恨。有人把这种情况贴上来，你原来不了解，现在让你开了眼界，你就要感谢有这个机会了解。唧唧歪歪，有点像井底的大蛤蟆 ...
呵呵发表于 2011-5-12 12:44

Do you know me ?

作者: 好事之徒 时间: 2011-5-12 19:13:29

以我有限的经验做IT 的从毕业开始平均每年涨一万是正常 LZ四万起4,5年后到10万是比正常快一点也不算什么天方夜谈吧也是LZ 个人能力的表现就如当今足坛最棒的梅西也不过23岁总不能说梅西只是忽悠吧

作者: 包不同 时间: 2011-5-12 20:36:18

身边30岁一下年薪过十万的也不少，有几个是华人，觉得大家在质疑人家的同时也要想一下问什么华人拿10万年薪就是天方夜谭呢？难道华人就一定要做廉价劳动力？

作者: starcub 时间: 2011-5-12 22:40:52

感觉怎么这么多人都这么愤青呢?大学没学过Critical thinking吗?
而且我并没有否定LZ, 我第一种可能就说了可能是LZ很强.

#67楼,说别人是井底之蛙的往往自己是井底之蛙.你也别给哥唧唧歪歪的.

作者: starcub 时间: 2011-5-12 22:49:54

2008年3月才找了个酒吧的part-time工作, ref: http://bbs.skykiwi.com/viewthrea ... &page=1#pid14358964 11楼 -- "晚班是6PM到12或1点。白班是11AM 到6PM"
2008年12月就说自己有2年java工作经验, 还抱怨工资涨幅太低 ref: http://bbs.skykiwi.com/viewthrea ... &page=1#pid17593000 7楼

好奇怪啊... #67楼你那么了解LZ, 你来解释一下吧?

作者: starcub 时间: 2011-5-12 22:51:59

身边30岁一下年薪过十万的也不少，有几个是华人，觉得大家在质疑人家的同时也要想一下问什么华人拿10万年薪就是天方夜谭呢？难道华人就一定要做廉价劳动力？
包不同发表于 2011-5-12 19:36

不是天方夜谭,实话告诉你,哥离这个也并不遥远.

作者: ybbest 时间: 2011-5-12 23:00:18

开始人肉了，散了吧。估计lz已经有决定了。

作者: risenfan 时间: 2011-5-12 23:07:03

lz豁胖无边界。我觉得你去贩毒或者军火比较有前途。还有，为啥要来中文论坛发英文？你英文好呢还是打不来中文？反正你目的达到了，大家向你致敬

作者: 呵呵 时间: 2011-5-13 00:14:22

井下蚊虫饱，蛤蟆也称哥

好一只高收入，高学历的大蛤蟆

还“哥离这个也并不遥远”

太欢乐了，不带这么样的，呵呵：）

还舔着脸要我来解释

加油，你就快成skykiwi蛤蟆帝了，到时候给你涨工资，让你过10万！

作者: xli113 时间: 2011-5-13 00:25:34

哈哈哈哈 LZ出来解释下啊得用地道的E文啊

作者: 闲人莫入 时间: 2011-5-13 00:37:55

可能我比较保守，我有不少朋友在澳洲做contractor，上当的多了。。contractor的工资是不可能拿full time的工作时间来计算的

作者: starcub 时间: 2011-5-13 09:16:43

井下蚊虫饱，蛤蟆也称哥

好一只高收入，高学历的大蛤蟆

还“哥离这个也并不遥远”

太欢乐了，不带这么样的，呵呵：）

还舔着脸要我来解释

加油，你就快成skykiwi蛤蟆帝了，到时候给你涨工资，让你过1 ...
呵呵发表于 2011-5-12 23:14

就凭你这口臭，我就懒的跟你说。

版主还是锁帖吧，相信大家都有自己的判断了。

作者: xli113 时间: 2011-5-13 10:05:07

http://bbs.skykiwi.com/frame.php ... e%3D1%23pid14358964
http://bbs.skykiwi.com/frame.php ... e%3D1%23pid17593000楼主看看吧

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-13 10:15:38

开始人肉了，散了吧。估计lz已经有决定了。
ybbest 发表于 2011-5-12 22:00

not yet actually, I am more keen on the ausi job, but still have my foot in two boat.

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-13 10:17:05

http://bbs.skykiwi.com/frame.php?frameon=yes&referer=http%3A//bbs.skykiwi.com/viewthread.php%3Ftid%3D814151%26page%3D1%23pid14358964
http://bbs.skykiwi.com/frame.php?frameon=yes&referer=http%3A//bbs. ...
xli113 发表于 2011-5-13 09:05

those are my post, so what is your point ? i worked in a bar, its a part time job, while doing my full time job.

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-13 10:17:54

可能我比较保守，我有不少朋友在澳洲做contractor，上当的多了。。contractor的工资是不可能拿full time的工作时间来计算的
闲人莫入发表于 2011-5-12 23:37

how did they 上当的? I am concerned about that.

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-13 10:23:26

就凭你这口臭，我就懒的跟你说。

版主还是锁帖吧，相信大家都有自己的判断了。
starcub 发表于 2011-5-13 08:16

why 锁帖?! most people here gave me good advice, and I appreciated their comments.

Its a good topic to discuss on the forum.

作者: 光芒 时间: 2011-5-13 12:37:32

Telecom的COE？
PhoneCareLtd 发表于 2011-5-10 12:48

是CEO，TELECOM的CEO薪水在5M以上··········

作者: 好事之徒 时间: 2011-5-13 13:02:37

可能我比较保守，我有不少朋友在澳洲做contractor，上当的多了。。contractor的工资是不可能拿full time的工作时间来计算的
闲人莫入发表于 2011-5-12 23:37

这也是我想说的但怕有点泼冷水的嫌疑

720 一天跟 90一个小时是有很大区别的

作者: 呵呵 时间: 2011-5-13 13:11:21

telecom的ceo薪水只有3m了吧，我记得N年前从5m减薪了

另外，Jiang，不要搞人肉搜索，新西兰很小，IT这个圈子更小，自己的丑态不好让更多人知道。不要以为自己跳个巢，就意气风发，不可一世了

作者: cnlibra 时间: 2011-5-13 13:13:37

in your update
you said you have not made your decison yet. made decision about what???? 100k or $720/day???

and then you said the 100k and$720/days is not your offer. so why dont you say so before someone dig out your old post???

you really made my day, bro!!

作者: TheSuede 时间: 2011-5-13 13:13:41

都他妈开始人肉了阿。。

作者: 呵呵 时间: 2011-5-13 13:21:26

不是人肉，是蛤蟆肉

作者: wp7 时间: 2011-5-13 13:45:45

路过的。。。

作者: Criminalminds 时间: 2011-5-13 13:49:45

楼主有家庭有孩子是否要去澳大利亚的确需要考虑。

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-13 14:10:34

in your update
you said you have not made your decison yet. made decision about what???? 100k or $720/day???

and then you said the 100k and$720/days is not your offer. so why dont you say so befor ...
cnlibra 发表于 2011-5-13 12:13

relax mate, its Friday !

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-13 14:12:38

这也是我想说的但怕有点泼冷水的嫌疑

720 一天跟 90一个小时是有很大区别的
好事之徒发表于 2011-5-13 12:02

Yes, I am aware of it, i might end up doing 10 hours a day ! another alarming thing is on the contract, the termination clause says that they can get rid off me any time during the contractual period without any prior notice, i think that means they can fire me at any time for any reason... is this common ?

作者: 武夫的眉笔 时间: 2011-5-13 14:17:26

不是人肉，是蛤蟆肉
呵呵发表于 2011-5-13 12:21

才十几万就要人肉了，哎

作者: wp7 时间: 2011-5-13 14:20:39

relax mate, its Friday !
ysun062 发表于 2011-5-13 13:10

Not just any Friday... it's Friday the 13th!!!

作者: ysun062 时间: 2011-5-13 14:24:28

Not just any Friday... it's Friday the 13th!!!
wp7 发表于 2011-5-13 13:20

still,, its Friday !! wohoo,, dont care if its the 13th or the 133th, its friday !

作者: starcub 时间: 2011-5-13 14:28:33

本帖最后由 starcub 于 2011-5-13 13:32 编辑

telecom的ceo薪水只有3m了吧，我记得N年前从5m减薪了

另外，Jiang，不要搞人肉搜索，新西兰很小，IT这个圈子更小，自己的丑态不好让更多人知道。不要以为自己跳个巢，就意气风发，不可一世了
呵呵发表于 2011-5-13 12:11

我从来不怕被人肉. 正所谓身正不怕影子斜.

我的博客就在签名里,谁都能看到,想你也只是看看我的博客而已.还有什么能耐吗?

有能耐就回答一下我在#73楼提出的问题.

作者: It'sYourMama 时间: 2011-5-13 14:30:31

楼主是banana吧，楼主的问题在于把洋人的思维方式带到华人论坛里来了，华人是不讲究高调的，有句话说得好:枪打出头鸟，风吹墙头草，这是中国人文化的一部分。

你之所以发这个帖子你自己也知道有作秀的成分。所以不管你说的是意淫也好，真实也罢，说话低调一些没错的。

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